Covid-19 Pandemic

[Ivanhoe]

Some interesting content at Forbes;

https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/

You only get 4 free articles, but I have heard on the grapevine you might work around that via the Print Friendly extension for Firefox.

 

[lucklucky]

 

[JWB]

Free:

Low dose of Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and effective in children ages 5 to 11, companies’ study finds.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/20/covid-vaccine-for-children/

[DB]

2 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

It would make sense to hospitalize only those who have symptomatic infection to the point of needing hospitalization, but I guess we can't do that. It would also make sense to publish the applicable lab stats when publishing hospitalization rates, but we can't do that either for some reason.

Data on the cooking of books has been documented outside the NHS.

 

Not really.

In this case, the claim is that people who are admitted to hospital for other reasons are being reported as COVID hospitalisations, whereas they're being reported as hospitalisation of people with COVID. This is not a claim that COVID caused them to be hospitalised, only that they need to be isolated from hospital "normal business".

Obviously having to separate COVID-positive cases who are in for some other life-threatening condition from those who "only" have the life-threatening condition inevitably puts pressure on resources that isn't going to be any less than hospitalising COVID-only patients does.

Nevertheless, Ivanhoe, a rational explanation as to why this isn't "cooking the books" (in my mind at least) means that its use as evidence of a greater conspiracy is flawed at best and mendacious at worst.

[sunday]

Fake news should be remembered when the purveyors of those still could make more.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/ouch-richard-ebright-15-top-scientists-eviscerate-fauci-daszak-lancet-medical-journal/

The letter contains this general consideration:
 

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“As scientists, we need to evaluate all hypotheses on a rational basis, and to weigh their likelihood based on facts and evidence, devoid of speculation concerning possible political impacts. Contrary to the first letter published in The Lancet … we do not think that scientists should promote “unity” (“We support the call from the Director-General of WHO to promote scientific evidence and unity over misinformation and conjecture”).

As shown above, research-related hypotheses are not misinformation and conjecture. More importantly, science embraces alternative hypotheses, contradictory arguments, verification, refutability, and controversy. Departing from this principle risks establishing dogmas, abandoning the essence of science, and, even worse, paving the way for conspiracy theories. Instead, the scientific community should bring this debate to a place where it belongs: the columns of scientific journals.”

 

[DKTanker]

If the infant boy is black does this go viral?  Would the white woman be charged with a hate crime?

[Ivanhoe]

https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.abj9853

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Here, studying 35 vaccinated subjects out to 7 months from  the initial immunization, we found that two dose 25-mRNA-1273 vaccination generated immune memory against spike comparable to that of SARS-CoV-2 infection for anti-bodies, CD4+ T cells, and CD8+ T cells. Furthermore, immune responses were significantly enhanced by the presence of pre-existing cross-reactive CD4+ T cell memory.

Upshot; Moderna vaccination seems to be lasting longer than 6 months. Also, the heavier dose shots appear to work better;

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Anti-spike IgG, anti-RBD IgG, and PSV-neutralizing titers were approximately twofold higher in 100-μg vaccines compared to those who received the 25-μg dose (Fig. 4I), consistent with earlier reports (9, 28, 40). Spike-specific CD4+ T cells responses were ~1.4- to 2.0-fold higher in 100-μg vaccines compared to 25-μg vaccines (Fig. 4J). Furthermore, the spike-specific CD8+ T cell responses were comparable between the doses (Fig. 4K).

 

[rmgill]

5 hours ago, DB said:

Not really.

In this case, the claim is that people who are admitted to hospital for other reasons are being reported as COVID hospitalisations, whereas they're being reported as hospitalisation of people with COVID. This is not a claim that COVID caused them to be hospitalised, only that they need to be isolated from hospital "normal business".

Obviously having to separate COVID-positive cases who are in for some other life-threatening condition from those who "only" have the life-threatening condition inevitably puts pressure on resources that isn't going to be any less than hospitalising COVID-only patients does.

Nevertheless, Ivanhoe, a rational explanation as to why this isn't "cooking the books" (in my mind at least) means that its use as evidence of a greater conspiracy is flawed at best and mendacious at worst.

if they are reported as hospitalized covid cases to indicate the severity of the Covid pandemic, that is cooking the books. 

[sunday]

Project Veritas is on the matter. They have a pretty good track record, but I do not thing they are immune to disinformation.

https://tv.gab.com/channel/white__rabbit/view/project-veritas-breaking-part-1-federal-6149223846309a6abb436f8f

Let's see when YT censor that
 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by sunday

[DB]

1 hour ago, rmgill said:

if they are reported as hospitalized covid cases to indicate the severity of the Covid pandemic, that is cooking the books. 

if they're reported as cases in hospital with COVID, they reflect accurately the stress on the hospital system.

In the UK at least, a driver for lockdown measures has been the risk of overwhelming the NHS, which we have nevertheless come close to twice. 

It's transparently reported as such, so it's only "cooking the books" as far as I'm concerned for people who are resorting to desperate measures to support their agenda.

[sunday]

Dangerous criminal arrested

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lD8tudsYA7yW/

[BansheeOne]

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Germany: Gas station employee killed over a face mask

16h ago

A 20-year-old clerk was shot after asking a customer to wear a face mask in Germany. The suspected shooter said he was stressed out by coronavirus measures.

A gas station worker in the town of Idar-Oberstein, Rhineland-Palatinate, lost his life after a dispute with a customer over COVID-19 measures, police said Monday. 

According to the police report, a 49-year-old man is suspected of having shot the gas station employee Saturday evening, over a mask-wearing requirement at the establishment.

What happened at the gas station?

The man is said to have entered the gas station to make a purchase without wearing a face mask and the 20-year-old employee asked him to comply with the regulation. The two allegedly got into an argument, which prompted the maskless man to leave.

But according to police, the man is said to have returned roughly an hour later. This time, he was wearing a mask but he took it off and the two men started another argument. The suspect then pulled a concealed revolver out of his pocket and shot the 20-year-old. 

Senior public prosecutor Kai Fuhrmann told DPA that the victim died after a fatal shot to the head. After the incident, the suspect is said to have fled on foot. 

What did the suspect say?

Authorities arrived at the scene and started a search for the man. But the following day, the 49-year-old walked into the police station and confessed to the crime.

The man allegedly told officers that he was against COVID-19 restrictive measures and that the coronavirus pandemic situation had greatly stressed him, Fuhrmann said.

He felt cornered and "saw no other way out" than to set an example. The suspect held the victim  "responsible for the overall situation, because he enforced the rules," Fuhrmann added.

[...] 

https://m.dw.com/en/germany-gas-station-employee-killed-over-a-face-mask/a-59244387

[rmgill]

12 hours ago, DB said:

if they're reported as cases in hospital with COVID, they reflect accurately the stress on the hospital system.

In the UK at least, a driver for lockdown measures has been the risk of overwhelming the NHS, which we have nevertheless come close to twice. 

It's transparently reported as such, so it's only "cooking the books" as far as I'm concerned for people who are resorting to desperate measures to support their agenda.

I'm not sure that it's actually being transparently reported. Seems like it's buried in the lede as it were. 

[bojan]

If you have 6000 official corona deaths and 30.000 excess mortality, do you think that corona deaths were under or over reported?

[JWB]

Free:

Second dose of Johnson & Johnson vaccine increases protection against covid-19, vaccine maker says.

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 According to the company’s Ensemble 2 study, a Phase 3 randomized clinical trial, efficacy was 100 percent against severe or critical covid-19 for two weeks after the booster. Efficacy against symptomatic disease in the United States was 94 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/21/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/#link-DNRDPGHYU5AWLIWYFRZ5SG2PZA

 

 

Paywalled:

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Masks work by blocking or filtering out viruses that are carried in aerosols. Filtering is not sieving out things that are too large to pass through holes in the material. Rather, air must curve as it flows around individual, tightly packed fibers of the material, like a racecar swerving around cones of an obstacle course. As the air curves, the aerosols it carries cannot make the sharp bends and therefore slam into the fibers, or they come too close to the fibers and stick to them. Very small aerosols acquire random motion from air molecules bouncing off them and end up crashing into the fibers. This process works in both directions as air flows through a mask.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/your-coronavirus-questions-answered-which-type-of-masks-are-best/2021/09/17/3d92748c-1662-11ec-a5e5-ceecb895922f_story.html

[sunday]

More on the Project Veritas exposé.
 

 

[Ivanhoe]

3 hours ago, bojan said:

If you have 6000 official corona deaths and 30.000 excess mortality, do you think that corona deaths were under or over reported?

No way to tell. Here in the US, for the better part of the year people weren't going to see specialists; cardiologists, oncologists, etc. Plus, suicides and overdoses are way up.

[rmgill]

55 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

No way to tell. Here in the US, for the better part of the year people weren't going to see specialists; cardiologists, oncologists, etc. Plus, suicides and overdoses are way up.

Two ways to look at this. 

The deaths are due to Corona. OR the deaths are due to the over reaction of Corona. 

This is sort of like a hostage crisis where the police "rescue" the hostages and manage to kill 1/3rd of them. The deaths are then all due to the hostage takers. Sort of like how The Moscow Police "rescued" 120 hostages out of the 850 to death with some unknown incapacitating gas at the Dubrovka Theater. 

How you frame or spin it is key. 

[sunday]

Kung flu statistics are quite muddled, and the less unreliable ones, like VAERS side effects are not considered.

Reminds me of the shenanigans with the historical records of temperatures, done in the context of the global warming swindle, again.

There was a saying about "the winners write the history", but lately I am wondering if the reverse is more true, i.e., those who write the history end as the victors.

Edited September 21, 2021 by sunday

[bojan]

3 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

No way to tell. Here in the US, for the better part of the year people weren't going to see specialists; cardiologists, oncologists, etc. Plus, suicides and overdoses are way up.

Just to put things in perspective, there was ~100k deaths per year in 2015-2019, in 2020. there was ~130k. Access to the specialists in government (free) hospitals was harder, but it was poor with a long waiting lists even before. Access to the private healthcare was limited March-June 2020. and practically normal after that. Specific number I could find, number of deaths from cancer  and cardiovascular diseases did increase but nowhere near 30%, and those two were 75% of all deaths in 2015-19. ~52.6k vs ~55k for c-v and ~22k vs ~23k for cancer, which is increase but nowhere near 30% of total deaths.

So what is your guess where did those deaths come from?

Edited September 21, 2021 by bojan

[Harold Jones]

6 hours ago, sunday said:

More on the Project Veritas exposé.
 

 

I will give the guy credit for sticking to his schtick.  

[sunday]

Stubbornness is not a virtue, but perseverance is.

[Angrybk]

7 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

No way to tell. Here in the US, for the better part of the year people weren't going to see specialists; cardiologists, oncologists, etc. Plus, suicides and overdoses are way up.

Oddly enough, overdoses up but suicide actually down.  

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-suicides-have-decreased-during-the-covid-19-pandemic

https://apnews.com/article/overdose-deaths-record-covid-pandemic-fd43b5d91a81179def5ac596253b0304

 

[Angrybk]

[sunday]

Beyond HIV-infected watermelons!

https://www.studyfinds.org/vaccines-salad-growing-plants/
 

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Thanks to a $500,000 grant from the National Science Foundation, researchers are now looking accomplish three goals. First, the team will try to successfully deliver DNA containing mRNA vaccines into plant cells, where they can replicate. Next, the study authors want to show that plants can actually produce enough mRNA to replace a traditional injection. Finally, the team will need to determine the right dosage people will need to eat to properly replace vaccinations.

“Ideally, a single plant would produce enough mRNA to vaccinate a single person,” says Juan Pablo Giraldo, an associate professor in UCR’s Department of Botany and Plant Sciences, in a university release.

“We are testing this approach with spinach and lettuce and have long-term goals of people growing it in their own gardens,” Giraldo adds. “Farmers could also eventually grow entire fields of it.”