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ODAB-500 (FAE)

FZAB-500M, (HE-incendiary):

KMGU non-disposable bomblet dispenser:

RBK-500 SPBE-D, standard 500kg CBU with 15 self aiming submunition.

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Why do the Russian bombs have such an un aerodynamic profile anyway?

 

What are the benefits as opposed to the disadvantages?

 

Ease of production? More accurate in dropping? Something else?

 

Because I can't imagine that the Russians are incapable of making different shapes, So there must be some reason for them to make these bombs this way.

Cylinder-like shape is more efficient in terms of internal space. They can pack much more explosives than "low drag" bombs US is using now. USA also used to have less aerodynamic bombs in the past when most bombers had internal bomb bays, but developed aerodynamic bombs when nearly every attack plane had external loads. I think last 'old style' bombs were expended by B-52's few years ago.

 

Over short ranges, drag penalty is quite irrelevant. As for why they don't have huge loads like promised in brochures and show-off pictures, one also has to remember that Russians have to haul every piece of ordnance by ship or cargo aircraft. If every plane leaves the base with maximum bomb load, it will use up storages immediately.

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To add to Yama's elaborations, USAF (and other's of course) planes often have to drop their bombs on worthless dirt before they return to.base, because there were no targets. In Afghanistan at least there were areas designated to safely drop the load or rests of it before they could return to base or CV.

 

Makes me wonder how much is wasted this way.

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erwinl, bojan very well answered the question. I don't know why they employed them from medium altitude, maybe they have excess of that high drag models and have to spend them or want the flexibility of going low level if necessary.

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US 'takes control' of Rmeilan airfield in Syria - Al Jazeer English

Under a deal with Kurdish group, activists say US will use airfield to support fighters against ISIL in northern Syria.

 

 

Reports: America and Russia setting up bases in Syrian Kurdistan (rudaw)

 

Reports: America and Russia setting up bases in Syrian Kurdistan

By Rudaw yesterday at 05:00

 

 

ERBIL, Kurdistan Region Following reports that Russian engineers and soldiers had moved to the international Kamishly airport in Qamishli to possibly transform it into a base, similar reports indicate that the Americans may be seeking to do the very same thing in the region.

 

In the nearby Hasakah Province the Americans have reportedly taken control of the former Syrian military Rmeilan airfield. They are apparently seeking to use it as a hub to give closer support to Kurdish Peoples Protection Units (YPG) fighters in Syria engaged against the Islamic State (ISIS).

Like Kamishly airport it is very close to Syria's northeastern border with Turkey.

"Under a deal with the YPG, the US was given control of the airport. The purpose of this deal is to back up the SDF [syrian Democratic Forces], by providing weapons and an airbase for US warplanes," an activist for the SDF told the Al Jazeera network on Tuesday.

 

"This airport was previously controlled by the YPG for over two years now. This strategic airport is close to several oil bases - one of the biggest in this area.

Rmeilan airport was previously used for agricultural purposes by the Syrian government," he went on to explain.

 

While Rmeilan sits in territory controlled by the Kurds Qamishli airport remains in the few enclaves controlled by the regime in that part of Syria.

Russia and US setting up shop in that part of Syria is a highly notable development in the Syrian conflict.

 

To this date the US and Russians have been operating in mostly separate parts of the country. US air power has been focused solely on bombing ISIS in the east and northeast while Russian air power has been bombing various forces fighting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad across Syria.

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U.S. says prepared for military solution against Islamic State in Syria

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden said on Saturday that the United States and Turkey were prepared for a military solution against Islamic State in Syria should the Syrian government and rebels fail to reach a political settlement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-turkey-biden-idUSKCN0V10J9

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Russians preempting it with Naval Infantry in Qamushli and Kuweires. The YPG and SDF are officially loyal opposition. They have crossed to the western bank of the Euphrates at Tishreen Dam and are pushing to Manbeij.

 

I fully expect that the base in Homs will be ready soon and a further reinforcement of the Russian Air Force expeditionary contingent is already forward staged to populate at short notice.

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How the things change, in WW2 people would get killed to get this kind of maps...

Yes. Oh yes. But then you cannot hide a harbour from satellites. And to draw a map from some overhead photos is not that hard.

 

 

Just so. Civilian-grade satellites can now provide photographs of a clarity that most military recon sats could not achieve 30 years ago. And that means that some things simply are not as secret as they once were.

 

But, if you give people a map of a base or area, you can direct most of their attention onto certain things and away from others Misdirection can be 85-90% as effective as hard visual barriers in such cases and it generates far less ill will if done right. :ninja:

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How the things change, in WW2 people would get killed to get this kind of maps...

 

Seems like this map is from some commercial navigation software, and probably outdated anyway as now RusNavy working on increasing harbor depth (seems waste of money for me as it is cheaper to re-locate centre of operation to what was commercial part of the port). For some reasons they are instead attached to harbor corner they used to sit in from Soviet times.

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Seems like this map is from some commercial navigation software, and probably outdated anyway as now RusNavy working on increasing harbor depth (seems waste of money for me as it is cheaper to re-locate centre of operation to what was commercial part of the port). For some reasons they are instead attached to harbor corner they used to sit in from Soviet times.

Could have to do with the terms of the contract, that USSR Navy is only allowed on these certain piers and none other. And neither Assad nor Putin want to be bothered renegotiating.

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WTH did they find ammo for the thing?

It is modified ex-Yugo M18/61 (this one being partial modernization w/o pneumatic tires), uses standard US 105mm ammo.

Turkey got 40+ of those from Bosnia and metric shitload of ammo few years ago. "For scrapping". :wacko: Also Yordan supplies ammo to "FSA".

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Pretty darned amazing video from Deir Ezzor with the legendary/notorious Gen. Issam Zahreddine leading a mix of Republican Guard, NDF and tribal militia fighting off the DAESH assault into the north western districts of Deir Ezzor. He is the big fella with the big grey beard and green head wrap. You can see the savagery of the fighting, lots of NSFW of DAESH in bits and an epic grenade duel.

 

https://youtu.be/t-6vzr0YIzg

 

Now in HD

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Why did they not put more modern wheels on? It is not like a pair of wheels was expensive.

Maintenance issues, solid rubber wheels are much less problem in case of lack of maintenance than inflatable. Since those were deep reserves and intended for non-motorized or civilian vehicle towing 30km/h speed limit with solid rubber wheels would not be a problem anyway. For same reason some of local 105mm M56 and 76mm M48 howitzers had solid rubber wheels.

IIRC leFH18/40 got full modernization, lefh 18M only partial and original leFH18 were modernized to leFG 18M standard and got partial modernization.

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