Stargrunt6 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1092-0?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nm%2Frss%2Fcurrent+(Nature+Medicine+-+Issue) "We identified 4–7 SSEs <super-spreader event> across 51 clusters (n = 309 cases) and estimated that 19% (95% confidence interval, 15–24%) of cases seeded 80% of all local transmission." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3619.short?rss=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bmj%2Frecent+(Latest+from+BMJ) Six studies (covering 14 741 people) examined temperature measurements, questions about international travel, exposure to known infected people, and exposure to known or suspected infected people. These studies combined incorrectly identified 77-100 of 100 infected people as healthy and 0-10 of 100 healthy people as infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Quote Sanjeev Sabhlok resigned from the Victorian Treasury last week after rallying against Melbourne's strict COVID-19 lockdowns and politicians online. Mr Sabhlok, who moved to Melbourne from India in 2001, took to Twitter to announce his resignation with a stern warning to Mr Andrews. 'I served your government as an economist until 10 September 2020 but have resigned to protest your Police State,' he wrote. 'I did not come to Australia to be a slave of whimsical government. You have not implemented risk-based management, no evidence-based policy, no cost-benefit analysis. 'No justification. Just whimsy. You must reset Victoria's policies right now. But if you won't, then go!' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8742023/Victorian-government-economist-Sanjeev-Sabhlok-resigns-protest-Dan-Andrews-police-state.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 90 minute covid test: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30121-X/fulltext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, JWB said: 90 minute covid test: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30121-X/fulltext About 400 pts, mixed dispositions, sensitivity and specificity comparable to RT-PCR. Sounds solid, the study just needs to be repeated with n= thousands, multi-center, same mixed dispositions, and it'll be gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 9:21 AM, Stargrunt6 said: https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3619.short?rss=1&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bmj%2Frecent+(Latest+from+BMJ) Six studies (covering 14 741 people) examined temperature measurements, questions about international travel, exposure to known infected people, and exposure to known or suspected infected people. These studies combined incorrectly identified 77-100 of 100 infected people as healthy and 0-10 of 100 healthy people as infected. Color me surprised, not. Temperature as a diagnostic is promoted because it is easy and cheap, not because it is effective. Since my early 20s, my oral temp has been between 97.0F and 98.0F, regardless of health. Including bouts of the flu, head colds, numerous bouts of bronchitis, pneumonia (chest film looked like I took a 1 oz load of #9 shot to the chest), food poisoning, etc. This whole pre-screening before performing a PCR test, IMHO, has literally killed people. Trying to conserve test kits is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Our provincial health authority is rolling out a on the spot salvia test, initially aimed at kids due to low quantity, then the general population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: Color me surprised, not. Temperature as a diagnostic is promoted because it is easy and cheap, not because it is effective. Since my early 20s, my oral temp has been between 97.0F and 98.0F, regardless of health. Including bouts of the flu, head colds, numerous bouts of bronchitis, pneumonia (chest film looked like I took a 1 oz load of #9 shot to the chest), food poisoning, etc. I know, right? Who would've thought that you can't sieve very well with a tennis racquet. There's a Freakanomics podcast about how 98.5 became the standard temperature. Plot twist, completely arbitrary after an experiment done in the late 19th century with axillary temps. 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: This whole pre-screening before performing a PCR test, IMHO, has literally killed people. Trying to conserve test kits is insane. Use em if ya got em. Demand more, the economy will appreciate it. 1 hour ago, Colin said: Our provincial health authority is rolling out a on the spot salvia test, initially aimed at kids due to low quantity, then the general population. Back-asswards. pediatric contraction and survival rates fly nap of the earth. It should be for the most vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 hours ago, JWB said: 90 minute covid test: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30121-X/fulltext Is it as effective as the 5 Minute University? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Stargrunt6 said: I know, right? Who would've thought that you can't sieve very well with a tennis racquet. There's a Freakanomics podcast about how 98.5 became the standard temperature. Plot twist, completely arbitrary after an experiment done in the late 19th century with axillary temps. Use em if ya got em. Demand more, the economy will appreciate it. Back-asswards. pediatric contraction and survival rates fly nap of the earth. It should be for the most vulnerable. Not really with kids now going to school, that is the most likely source of infection and they are offering free swabs at drivein stations as well. Plus keeping a close eye on hospitals and long term care homes. The salvia test is easier for kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 hours ago, rmgill said: Is it as effective as the 5 Minute University? I don't know. Above my pay grade. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Fredriksson Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Stolen picture, but quite telling of the attitude then and now - for me too. The text says: "Me with patients with possible corona in April vs September." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said: Stolen picture, but quite telling of the attitude then and now - for me too. The text says: "Me with patients with possible corona in April vs September." With my health, I've had a lot of contact with medical professionals and I have to say the old saying "masks can be harmful, only medical professionals have the training to properly use them" is a bunch of bunk. Medical professionals are just as sloppy with their masks as anyone else, constantly touching them as they move around, falling below their nose. It's laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 One of the Youtube videos I watched back in the April/May timeframe (IIRC) had some ER clinician talking about the face touching thing. He said that the worst people for touching their face in the hospital setting were residents. Some ridiculous stat, like hundreds of touches per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8750139/Scientists-claim-UK-covid-19-victims-July-August-died-causes.html Quote The study shows that people who may have died from cancer or who were run over and killed, but who had tested positive for coronavirus, were included among the virus deaths even though it did not kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 My wife has been talking to her sister and friend who are both doctors in Malaysia. The friend who is treating Covid patients all days says that even those with mild symptoms show heart irregularities and they are going to worry about the long term impact on the healthcare system in the future when all these people age and they start having heart problems thanks to Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Fredriksson Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 The picture was not about the lacking handling of masks, but the change in attitude among healthcare-workers towards the risks of covid. Heard from training-partner that one hospital in Stockholm-area recently went down to 0 covid-patients in ICU, from being jampacked 3 months ago. Apparently one hospital (KS) here will also be opening up for taking in foreign (EU?) ECMO-patients with covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 British Covid testing called our largest national embaressment since Suez. Or if you only remember the 1990's, the Spice Girls. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12717185/covid-19-testing-worst-fail-since-suez/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Colin said: My wife has been talking to her sister and friend who are both doctors in Malaysia. The friend who is treating Covid patients all days says that even those with mild symptoms show heart irregularities and they are going to worry about the long term impact on the healthcare system in the future when all these people age and they start having heart problems thanks to Covid. I wonder if that is due to: heart muscles being damaged directly by infection and T-cell activity, arterial thrombosis, brain damage from microstrokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 China made it, China released it, this is an act of war. It was intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: I wonder if that is due to: heart muscles being damaged directly by infection and T-cell activity, arterial thrombosis, brain damage from microstrokes? It could easily be all of those. My aunt is still shaking off the poat infectious syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8753923/Cancer-patients-betrayal-surgery-treatments-cancelled-NHS-battling-pandemic.html Quote Cancer patients' coronavirus betrayal: NHS surgery and treatments were cancelled – and some people were even told to go PRIVATE - as NHS turned its focus to battling the pandemic Patients had vital operations cancelled and missed out on potentially life- saving treatments because tackling Covid-19 had become the sole focus of the NHS Experts fear the number of people dying as a result of delays triggered by the treatment of Covid patients could end up being responsible for as many deaths as the pandemic itself Almost 2.5million patients missed out on cancer screening, referrals or treatment during lockdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, lucklucky said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8753923/Cancer-patients-betrayal-surgery-treatments-cancelled-NHS-battling-pandemic.html And this is the Daily Mail so you know it hasn't been sensationalized, spun, or falsified in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 What is the difference from the BBC, the Guardian, Times, Telegraph, The Independent, Financial Times, Economist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lanonc/PIIS1470-2045(20)30391-0.pdf Quote This hybrid system is now in disarray due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Two main changes have arisen as a consequence of the lockdown in the UK. First, patients are frightened, especially older patients and those with existing health conditions. Many are shielding by minimising interactions between themselves and others and staying home as much as possible, and are encouraged to do so. At the same time, the UK National Health Service (NHS) rapidly switched its comprehensive health care to one almost entirely focused on care for patients with COVID-19. Cancer screening was suspended in late March, 2020 (leaving around 8500 patients with a positive colorectal screening test, and a cancer risk of around 10%, uninvestigated);4patients are consulting face-to-face in primary care much less frequently (although telephone consultations have largely replaced these consultations),5 and fewer 2-week-wait referrals are being made.6,7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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