bojan Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) @DB Didn't you get a memo so far that everything has to be either useless crap or "one ring to rule them all"? Edited September 12, 2022 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Quote Children under 12-years-old in the United Kingdom will no longer be offered COVID injections, except for those in clinical risk groups, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) confirmed this week. The agency said the offer of COVID shots to healthy 5 to 11-year-olds was always meant to be temporary. https://amgreatness.com/2022/09/09/uk-announces-it-will-no-longer-offer-covid-jabs-to-children-under-12-amid-new-data-that-shows-risks-outweigh-benefits/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, bojan said: @DB Didn't you get a memo so far that everything has to be either useless crap or "one ring to rule them all"? Of course not. I'm tainted by my attempts to remain rational. The way that vitamin D is absorbed by the body and the time it takes to transform into the active version might look superficially as if it's being used as a preventative medicine, but that's not why I started taking it. Similarly, a friend has developed severe rheumatoid arthritis (in his early fifties) and is being treated with calcifediol (with several other substances including methotrexate) specifically because "Vitamin D mainly prevents the occurrence and development of rheumatoid arthritis by inhibiting cytokine levels". https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2020.596007/full In other words, the NHS, which is quite conservative in adopting treatments recognises that it has an application there (or at least the cost benefit equation is in favour of its use). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsaari Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DB said: The claim associated with Vitamin D (and derived products in the early Spanish interventions) were not about prophylaxis anyway - the claim was that sufficient vitamin D levels mediated immune system response preventing the cascade immune system over-reaction that followed infection and increased severity. Unless my recollection is faulty, these results are disproving a claim that was never seriously made. Hospital admissions was also looked at and no benefit found there, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, DB said: The claim associated with Vitamin D (and derived products in the early Spanish interventions) were not about prophylaxis anyway - the claim was that sufficient vitamin D levels mediated immune system response preventing the cascade immune system over-reaction that followed infection and increased severity. Unless my recollection is faulty, these results are disproving a claim that was never seriously made. It addresses the issue of severe covid. Mind you folks going out and about and getting sufficient sun after lockdown and thus proper natural Vitamin D Production would also be a confound for efficacy of the vaccine limiting severe covid. As winter rolls around and folks retreat in doors from the sun that'll be an added confound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It is well established that active/fit people tend to weather covid much better than those who are not. I take vitamin D supplements, but I always wondered if high vit D blood levels are a proxy for the former, since they typically tend to be outside more. People who spend their days watching TV and eating cheetos aren't going to get much sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Duplicate Edited September 13, 2022 by Mikel2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Active and fit people are spending more time out side as a general rule. That means more vitamin D production by the skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Israeli scientists say they have identified antibodies that are so powerful in neutralizing the coronavirus that they could eliminate the need for more vaccine boosters. Two antibodies identified in Israel can fight all known COVID strains, study finds | The Times of Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, JWB said: Israeli scientists say they have identified antibodies that are so powerful in neutralizing the coronavirus that they could eliminate the need for more vaccine boosters. The article mentions that the antibodies have to be infused. Makes you wonder what the cost will be. I would think it would just be used on those with weakened immune systems? This would be great for countries with well established medical systems. Not so much for countries with poor medical infrastructure. Edited September 14, 2022 by 17thfabn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, 17thfabn said: The article mentions that the antibodies have to be infused. Makes you wonder what the cost will be. I would think it would just be used on those with weakened immune systems? The cost will probably be less than the cost of WHO/NIH-inpired economic self-mutilations. 33 minutes ago, 17thfabn said: This would be great for countries with well established medical systems. Not so much for countries with poor medical infrastructure. Monoclonal antibodies appear to be much easier to handle than the mRNA inoculations. The question is, how much will it cost per dose to fab, compared to mRNA inoculations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has acknowledged publicly for the first time that the agency gave false information about its COVID-19 vaccine safety monitoring. Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the agency’s director, said in a letter made public on Sept. 12 that the CDC did not analyze certain types of adverse event reports at all in 2021, despite the agency previously saying it started in February 2021. “CDC performed PRR analysis between March 25, 2022, through July 31, 2022,” Walensky said. “CDC also recently addressed a previous statement made to the Epoch Times to clarify PRR were not run between February 26, 2021, to September 30, 2021.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Well, let the vaccinophiles explain that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Case in point, Uganda - low vaccination rate, and epidemic is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Neurological and psychiatric risk trajectories after SARS-CoV-2 infection: an analysis of 2-year retrospective cohort studies including 1 284 437 patients: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(22)00260-7/fulltext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Impact of COVID-19 on life expectancy is misleading. Impact of COVID-19 on life expectancy is misleading (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Experimental COVID-19 vaccine may outsmart future coronavirus variants. Experimental COVID-19 vaccine may outsmart future coronavirus variants (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 https://pdmj.org/epitope_analysis/epitope_analysis.pdf Quote Animal proteins have minor differences compared to human proteins. Peptides that are identical between humans and animals are unlikely to cause any problem due to strong self tolerance. However, peptides with one amino acid residue difference produce the strongest cross reactive immune responses (11). They are ideally suited to induce autoimmune diseases. Injecting animal proteins results in anti-cancer immune responses because the immune system perceives animal proteins as altered human proteins. Adjuvants in the vaccine boost this anti-cancer immune response. This artificial anti-cancer response directed at thousands of APF proteins in vaccines or biologics, therefore cross react and cause numerous autoimmune disorders. Quote Conclusion Vaccines containing animal, plant or fungal proteins are extremely dangerous and cause numerous autoimmune diseases and cancer (16–19). All non-target proteins in vaccines must be immediately removed using processes such affinity chromatography (20). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Uninformed Consent - Official Full Documentary Release https://librti.com/view-video/uninformed-consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 CDC Admits Post-Vaccine Myocarditis Concerns That Were Labeled Covid Misinformation Are Legit. https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/09/cdc-admits-post-vaccine-myocarditis-concerns-that-were-labeled-covid-misinformation-are-legit/?fbclid=IwAR1XHEiBSIF6rzryvuoNVQHltBF3uTcBOf0RSPHjSvZ7Z10k_LVT0beCYm8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 After how many deaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Danish Health Authorities will only promote vaccines for those 50 years old and over. And those specific risk cases. The purpose of the vaccination programme is to prevent severe illness, hospitalisation and death. Therefore, people at the highest risk of becoming severely ill will be offered booster vaccination. The purpose of vaccination is not to prevent infection with covid-19, and people aged under 50 are therefore currently not being offered booster vaccination. https://www.sst.dk/en/English/Corona-eng/Vaccination-against-COVID-19 Edited September 16, 2022 by lucklucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Since lack of boosters is a depopulation event, where are we going to get our butter cookies from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: Since lack of boosters is a depopulation event, where are we going to get our butter cookies from? Forget cookies. What about LEGO???!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Sacrifices must be made. On a serious note; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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