Markus Becker Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, DB said: Presumably this new enthusiasm is as a counter to Black Rifle disease? Why would one want to counter that? Particularly an American. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I mean the disease that renders people so scared of them that they lose all sense and are reduced to saying things like "the shoulder thing that goes up", not the perfectly rational obsession with buying all of them, in all the calibres and lengths and even all the colours (but you get a pass if you don't want the Barbie themed one, unless you swing that way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 If it were an attempt to circumvent assault weapon bans it would be in 9x19 and have a tube magazine. Or maybe a fixed box magazine, maybe. That being said, as a manually operated rifle it probably avoids a lot of legal💩 but not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 When you think you've bypassed the BS, the politicians come up with more for you to step past... Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 There's also a slice of market share in places that semi-autos which is being addressed by high end Euro and low end Turkish suppliers, where a mid level American product might fit quite well. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 There's also a hunting niche that wants an alternative to bolt guns, but high-power lever guns have been a challenge, due to bolt lock-up issues. Also, spitzer center-fire cartridges tend to take violent exception to tube magazines. If the Bond lever rifle can be scaled up to handle .30 cal hunting loads, they could well have a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 What's happened to rifles along the lines of the Win 1895 and the Savage 99(?) with box and rotary mags respectively? Pushed off the market by the bolt actions? Re a Bond in .30. It can take AR uppers and there are AR-15 in .308, aren't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 Lever guns are I think more fiddly in terms of parts than a bolt action. The box magazine that's integral makes for more complex bits as well. AR-10s are going to have a longer mag well/OAL on case. So it'd have to be one sized for .308 lengths. Long action vs Short action so to speak. It'll probably handle .300 ACC just fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 The president of El Salvador is lately in the news because of his crusade against gangs that have caused hundreds of dead. In one piece of news Is saw this cop with an assault rifle. At first sight I thought it was a short variant of the AK-100 series but it does not seem the case. Can anyone identify it? https://elpais.com/internacional/2022-04-03/bukele-lanza-una-cruzada-totalitaria-contra-las-pandillas.html#?rel=mas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Galil Ace, 5.56, using Galil mags. Edited March 16, 2023 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) A bit of Finnish cleverness, the KAR-21; a rifle that by changing only three parts, can be converted between 5.56x45 and 7.62x51 Â Edited March 17, 2023 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) On 3/16/2023 at 11:54 PM, bojan said: Galil Ace, 5.56, using Galil mags. Thanks, I got another photo. These weapons belonged to Viktor Yanukovych's former head of security. I can see an upgraded AKMS, perhaps a SR-2 Veresk; Tokarev and Luger/P38 pistols... what about the others? https://zn.ua/ukr/UKRAINE/sud-naklav-aresht-na-vse-majno-okhorontsja-janukovicha.html Edited March 20, 2023 by alejandro_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 - APS (award gun) 2 - P-38 and P-08Â (award gun) 3 - B&T APC-9 4 - tuned AKMS 5 - B&T TP-9 6 - TT 7 - B&T APC223 (not sure, but very likely) B&T might be Ukrainian copies, IIRC they bought license for some of those in 2009-10-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Astras and even cooler than the previous ones   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Ooooh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Not sure if I posted this one here. Hop covers Stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sGuXkaAnJ4 Edited March 22, 2023 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) And now troops complain about 20" AR 'muskets' being unhandy  Edited March 22, 2023 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 The president of the Central African Republic, Faustin-Archange Touaderá, escorted by Russian mercenaries and Rwandan 'blue helmets', December 2021. Note AK-47 with drum magazine. https://elpais.com/internacional/2023-03-23/el-laboratorio-africano-del-grupo-wagner-minerales-madera-violencia-y-un-dni-espanol.html PS Thanks Bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Gunmagoddon is coming: Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Markus Becker said: Gunmagoddon is coming:   Bravo! It's a shame there's not a way to fine the backer of this frivolous lawsuit into penury Edited March 24, 2023 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Prototype suppressed Sten: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Ian firing said Sten. This is the first video where all I could actually hear the bolt cycling. The link is from Utreon, so no thumbnail: https://utreon.com/v/H_z6c1AZRna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Now in youtube! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I like the simulated sound effect at the very end. Also, one wonders how much more effective the suppressor would be if it had the brass "wire wool" and perhaps other internal elements fully intact and new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Bullpup AK-74, aka 95% stupidity: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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