Firearms of note and ridicule

[PCallahan]

On 4/24/2024 at 2:01 PM, Ivanhoe said:

https://www.henryusa.com/shotgun/garden-gun-smoothbore-22/

This is kinda interesting, a narrow niche but maybe helpful for gardeners and such. A lever-action .22LR smoothbore for shooting shot cartridges at pests eating one's veggies.

People who try to grow prize-winning roses etc. would probably prefer a full-auto .22LR smoothbore. 🤫

I prefer my Henry firing .45-70, though ... a bit of an overkill vs rabbits. Or anything smaller than an ox, really...

I could use my son's Henry .357 (firing .38 special) but given that I live in suburbia, the neighbors might complain.

[sunday]

24 minutes ago, PCallahan said:

I prefer my Henry firing .45-70, though ... a bit of an overkill vs rabbits. Or anything smaller than an ox, really...

I could use my son's Henry .357 (firing .38 special) but given that I live in suburbia, the neighbors might complain.

Is there any Henry around that could fire both .45-70 and .410 shells?

Something like the Taurus Judge revolver.

Edited April 26 by sunday

[PCallahan]

3 minutes ago, sunday said:

Is there any Henry around that could fire both .45-70 and .410 shells?

 

Not that I've seen; cruising forums, apparently you can try to single-load them... but for a variety of reasons it is not a good idea.  Also, for actually hitting anything, apparently the rifling plays havoc with the shot pattern.

[sunday]

4 hours ago, PCallahan said:

 

Not that I've seen; cruising forums, apparently you can try to single-load them... but for a variety of reasons it is not a good idea.  Also, for actually hitting anything, apparently the rifling plays havoc with the shot pattern.

Yeah, I could imagine the lifter will be the part most difficult to adapt. .45-70 is a substantially longer round.

Edited April 26 by sunday
lifter, not elevator

[Markus Becker]

Crappy revolvers part 2

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

14 hours ago, PCallahan said:

I prefer my Henry firing .45-70, though ... a bit of an overkill vs rabbits.

 

Depends on the rabbit, I suppose.

If anyone uses CRISPR technology to edit rabbit DNA with an insert from a giant ground sloth from the Pleistocene era, your .45-70 will feel puny indeed. Or should I say "when?"

[Ivanhoe]

Even stranger;

 

[Markus Becker]

I present something silly and a good reason to not just follow him on YouTube.  

https://playeur.com/v/wufqv1XmT2O

[shep854]

1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

I present something silly and a good reason to not just follow him on YouTube.  

https://playeur.com/v/wufqv1XmT2O

Now that's just cool!  My SOT buddy has a Glock that he legally modified to FA, but I have held off shooting it because I wasn't sure I could control it.

[shep854]

Tested with genuine .277 Fury ammo:

 

[rmgill]

10 hours ago, shep854 said:

Now that's just cool!  My SOT buddy has a Glock that he legally modified to FA, but I have held off shooting it because I wasn't sure I could control it.

Short load the magazines. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Markus Becker]

14 hours ago, shep854 said:

Tested with genuine .277 Fury ammo:

 

You mean 6.8*51? Or am I misremembering that .277 is the destination for the milder commercial version? 

[shep854]

1 hour ago, Markus Becker said:

You mean 6.8*51? Or am I misremembering that .277 is the destination for the milder commercial version? 

It sounded like they still couldn't get actual US military cartridges, so they are going with equivalent pressure cartridges that are being prepared for civilian release.

A discussion of possible hunting loads:

 

[Markus Becker]

Hm, let's talk money. A box of the old .270 vs .277? Throw in .308 for fun.

 

[PCallahan]

On 4/26/2024 at 3:05 PM, Ivanhoe said:

Depends on the rabbit, I suppose.

If anyone uses CRISPR technology to edit rabbit DNA with an insert from a giant ground sloth from the Pleistocene era, your .45-70 will feel puny indeed. Or should I say "when?"

Well said!  My gardens would require some serious hardware to defend, and I think my field retriever might even be daunted.

[rmgill]

You just need the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. Where's Brother Maynard? *looks around*

[Olof Larsson]

On 4/25/2024 at 4:14 AM, bojan said:

7.9x57mm was not Mauser, but a German "rifle testing commission" design, for Gew 88 "commission" rifle. Streamline to modern 7.9x57 with spitzer bullet was also done by those. Mauser developed 7.65x53 and 7x57 from 7.9x57 case geometry, shortening first one in order to fit in already existing rifle design (original cartridge they experimented with was 8x51mm IIRC). 7x57mm was done to improve ballistics in the days before spitzer rounds , and was mostly DWM work.  6.5x55 was Swedish/Norwegian (IIRC more Norwegian than Swedish) work.

So Mauser gets credited for copying other people work

Yes, the norwegians should certainly get the praise, for the 6,5x55 Scandinavian. Sweden wanted a rimmed round, while the norwegians wanted a rimless. But it was mauser that convinced the swedes that they were wrong. It was also the norwegians trying to bring up every minor flaw in the M93 Mauser (to try to get the Krag adopted), that resulted in the M94 Mauser, and later the M98.

[alejandro_]

Comment on AN-94 Abakan by Valery Vostrotin, who in 1989 was commander of the 98th Guards Airborne Division. 

In the late 80s, when I was a division commander, we were sent an experimental Abakan assault rifle. He had recoil not after the first, but after the second shot, and then it increased - and after the third. It turns out the bullets are going one after another. But he also failed to defeat Kalashnikov. Difficult to manufacture, capricious to use...

https://rodina-history.ru/2019/11/10/rodina-kalashnikov-vostrotin.html

[shep854]

For rmgill...with all the mods, I wasn't sure at first if it really was an FS2000.  It just doesn't look fishy enough.

 

Edited May 5 by shep854

[rmgill]

Same as mine, pic rail on top. I just have the contoured from grip vs the Tri-Rail on the front lower. 

I find the tactical tuna to be quite comfortable, with the 'toilet lid' making a very perfect spot to index one's cheek bone for easily repeatable cheek weld. 

I've since fabbed a separator for the but-stock interior so as to allow storage of a cleaning and tools kit without risk of fouling the hammer package. Oh, and I have a Can now, so the muzzle device has been swapped for one with a taper mount. 

Oh, and the optic is now an Aimpoint Comp M4 with an Aimpoint 3x magnifier, all on Larue mounts. It now sports some flip up optics with the height giving lower 3rd cowitness. 

Edited May 6 by rmgill

[Markus Becker]

 

The ghost of MK just empied an entire bottle of Vodka in on go. 

 

[sunday]

Great production values in that video.

[rmgill]

Nice to see a Bren Tripod assisted in the development. 

 

[Markus Becker]