Nobu Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 5:54 AM, Stuart Galbraith said: In fairness only 2/3rds of them are ours, but at least they are on our side. I think China would struggle to put a multinational force like that together. It would, as they are playing the fleet-in-being game, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 As the Soviets found, If you build one quickly, it goes obsolete all at once. The Yanks found the same problem in the 1970s.But I'm sure they know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Two B-2s flew from Guam to the Sea of Japan and conducted training with a USN E/A-18G out from Misawa and 20 F-15Js of the JASDF in that sea as well as the East China Sea and the airspace around Okinawa. Of the 20 F-15Js, four were from Chitose, eight from Nyutabaru, four from Komatsu, and four from Naha. https://www.pacom.mil/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article/2372470/b-1bs-conduct-joint-bilateral-training-with-koku-jieitai-us-navy-in-indo-pacific/ https://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/R2/20201003.pdf JS Oonami conducted joint-training with Spain's Santa Maria and a P-3C from the EU in the Gulf of Aden on the 5th and 6th of October. https://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/exchange/area/2020/pdf/20201007_eu-j.pdf https://twitter.com/eu_eeas/status/1313757762229276673 JS Kaga, JS Ikazuchi, and JS Shoryu conducted ASW training in the South China Sea on October 9th. https://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/202010/20201009.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 2:02 PM, Stuart Galbraith said: As the Soviets found, If you build one quickly, it goes obsolete all at once. The Yanks found the same problem in the 1970s.But I'm sure they know better. Indeed. I don't think Beijing's current blue-water navy mania lasts much longer. I would be happy to be proven wrong, however, as for them to continue it would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 USS John S. McCain conducted FONOPs at PRC held islands in the South China Sea on October 9th to which the PRC made a protest to stop what it viewed as provocations. Quote The USS John S. McCain entered waters of China's Xisha Islands in the South China Sea on Friday without China's approval, and was warned and told to leave by the People's Liberation Army Southern Theater Command, said Senior Colonel Zhang Nandong, a spokesperson for the command on Friday. The US frequently sends military ships to the South China Sea to flex its muscles and enhance its presence in the region, which seriously infringes on China's sovereignty and national interests, and damages regional peace and stability, Zhang said, noting that the behavior is blatant voyage hegemony and military provocation. Zhang urged the US to stop such provocations and strictly manage its navy and air force's actions to avoid unpredictable events. China owns undeniable sovereignty of the islands in the South China Sea and nearby waters. The command would always stay highly alert and take necessary actions to safeguard national sovereignty and regional peace and stability, he noted. https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1203004.shtml The three Japanese warships stopped at Vietnam, Cam Ranh for replenishment on October 12th. https://www.facebook.com/JMSDF.PAO.fp/posts/3532675766794116 USS John S. McCain then linked up with JS Kaga and JS Ikazuchi shortly after they departed Cam Ranh it seems for joint-training along with replenishment oiler USNS Tippecanoe on October 12th. Quote SOUTH CHINA SEA -- Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) joined Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Escort Flotilla 2 during integrated operations in the South China Sea beginning Oct. 12. U.S. Naval forces routinely operate alongside regional allies and partners to strengthen our shared commitments to regional stability and a free and open Indo-Pacific. This integration coincides with the 245th anniversary of the U.S. Navy’s establishment on Oct. 13th, 1775. "I can't think of a better way to celebrate the U.S. Navy's 245th Birthday than by operating at sea alongside our close Allies of Japan," said Cmdr. Ryan T. Easterday, commanding officer, USS John S. McCain. "Together, our nations remain committed to ensuring regional security and stability in the Indo-Pacific through forward-deployed naval presence and by remaining ready to respond swiftly and decisively to any contingency." Participants operated and trained together throughout, exercising integrated maritime operations including a replenishment at sea (RAS) and communication and datalink drills. Professional integrated engagements allow the U.S. Navy and allies the opportunity to build upon existing strong relationships and improve collective readiness and response to any situation. For more than 60 years, the U.S.-Japan Alliance has been the cornerstone of stability and security in the Indo-Pacific and will continue to play that role in the future. “We conducted a bilateral exercise with our close partner, the U.S. Navy, in the South China Sea.” said CAPT NISHIDA Satoshi, commanding officer, JS KAGA. “Through this exercise, we enhanced our tactical skills, and demonstrated our bond is unshakable. Even during the COVID-19 situation, the JMSDF continues to work with allied and partner navies, thus contributing to the regional peace and stability and a Free and Open Indo-Pacific.” Participating U.S. units included Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) and fleet replenishment oiler USNS Tippecanoe (T-AO-199). The JMSDF Escort Flotilla 2, commanded by Rear Adm. KONNO Yasushige, includes JS Kaga (DDH 184) and JS Ikazuchi (DD 107). John S. McCain is underway conducting operations in support of a free and open Indo-Pacific, while assigned to Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 15, the Navy's largest forward-deployed DESRON and the U.S. 7th Fleet's principal surface force. https://www.pacom.mil/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article/2380663/us-navy-joins-japans-kaga-ikazuchi-for-integrated-operations/ https://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/202010/20201013.pdf Naval strike group consisting of USS Ronald Reagan, USS Antietam, and USS Halsey make a second voyage into the Indian Ocean for the year by the second week of November. https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/2378961/ronald-reagan-carrier-strike-group-conducts-maritime-security-operations-in-the/utm_source/twitter/utm_medium/social/utm_content/100001561151115/utm_campaign/Fight/linkId/100000016258650/ American technical advisor in Taiwan for radar PAVE PAWS assistance. Quote TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The Taiwan Air Force Command issued a press release Tuesday (Oct. 13) stating that a foreign national spotted in a photo taken during President Tsai Ing-wen’s (蔡英文) recent trip to the Leshan radar station was an American technical advisor assisting in the maintenance of the sophisticated radar system. President Tsai on Tuesday paid a visit to the radar station as part of her administration’s efforts to boost morale in all branches of the military. In one of the photos of her trip, a foreign man was spotted in the background, prompting suspicions that the unknown person was an American military advisor. The Air Force stated Tuesday evening that the advisor was dispatched by the U.S. in accordance with a previous arms sale agreement to assist with radar system operations, ensure proper equipment maintenance, and advise on consolidating Taiwan’s air defense, CNA reported. The Air Force also called on the public to refrain from speculation. The Leshan radar station is located in Hsinchu's Wufeng Township and houses a Cold War-era Precision Acquisition Vehicle Entry Phased Array Warning System (PAVE PAWS) early warning radar. The radar was purchased from the U.S. in 2000 and commissioned in 2013. The addition of the PAVE PAWS has significantly improved the nation’s early warning capabilities, as it can detect and monitor threats 5,000 kilometers away. National security staff pointed out that this range nearly encompasses an area spanning northeast to southeast Asia. As China ramps up military activity around Taiwan, the Leshan radar station is able to quickly provide Air Force personnel with intelligence to facilitate rapid responses to incoming threats. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4029722 It's planned that Suga will sign a defense export agreement with Vietnam when he visits the country next week. https://jp.reuters.com/article/japan-vietnam-defence/japan-to-sign-agreement-allowing-arms-exports-to-vietnam-nikkei-idUSL4N2H503E One of the three stationary radars that the Philippines is purchasing from Japan is to be set on Palawan island. The Philippines is also considering working with Japan in UAVs and Cyber defense. https://globalnation.inquirer.net/191540/ph-armed-forces-to-deploy-air-surveillance-radar-for-west-philippine-sea-monitoring-gapay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Interesting article on new NATO EW approach to S-400 threat using drone swarms for electronic jamming and deception, https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2020/10/15/nato-developed-traps-for-russias-s-300-and-s-400-anti-aircraft-missile-systems/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 In 30-40 years time China's economy will be so large that replacing any obsolete ships in a new construction wave will be a triviality. They likely think they need them quickly too, as the critical period for them is the next few decades. Once the Chinese economy is about double that of the US, they will probably be safe from all but a massive nuclear strike on their cities, and by that time the US would be crippled too (leaving aside the possibility of a US attack triggering Russian launch on warning). Certainly the US would be mad to play a Cold War arms race game against a much larger economy and so one factor limiting US bellicosity is that it could push China into a large strategic buildup, something they have so far shown remarkable restraint in avoiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Well the USN was as strong as it ever was in 1945. The US Economy was probably about as strong as it ever was at that point, probably comparable to China is now. 30 years later they had to take ships out of service to pay for a new generation of ships, which meant that the number of ships in service actually dipped. OK, so it soared again in the Reagan years, because Reagan threw money at the problem like it was going out of style, and now its dipping again, because they cannot physically replace the ships and submarines they built as quickly as they used to build them. Because they lack the same number of yards, because the ships are more complicated,because they are more expensive, just a whole variety of reasons. I know the Chinese Economy is doing great, now. 30 years from now, can anyone guarantee it will do similarly well when its population are taking home the same pay as Western Economies? That is before we get into the kind of society China is, and the likely instability its going to suffer as its population dont have guaranteed jobs anymore. Its is simply not an easy thing to replace a fleet overnight. I grant you China might prove different to the UK, to the US, to the USSR, anyone else who operated a big fleet. OTOH, it seems unlikely that they are. China is already safe from a US nuclear attack. The US has no first strike policy, and no reasons to do it either. Even if China completely dominated the Spratleys, there would still be no reason to do it. Edited October 17, 2020 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 The big difference is that much of the US workforce was working in firms near the productivity frontier 1945, whereas only a small minority of the Chinese workforce is there now. Even if we have a pessimistic view of Chinese innovation (which isn't really sustainable - they have a huge number of STEM PhD's and large R&D budgets) if they simply continue to move out to the frontier rapidly their growth will continue to be strong. There is a rather simple process of taking the parts of the economy that are 30 years behind the frontier and upgrading the capital stock(and hiring new more educated workers). The real limiting factor is capital, which is why the exhortations for China to reduce investment from Pettis etc. are also pleas for it to stop growing do fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Something like this. https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/topic/42830-mandate-of-heaven/&do=findComment&comment=1427738 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 It seems unlikely that the PRC maintains its previous economic growth rate. In particular, its human capital will begin to shrink in the coming decades. But more generally its economic expansion was simply never going to be sustainable indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The PRC does not require 6% growth rate in order to eventually double or triple its economy's size relative to the United States. 3% or 4% will do just fine for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The 3 ship USS Ronald Reagan strike group moved into the South China Sea and were joined by USS John S. McCain. Quote SOUTH CHINA SEA - The Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group has returned to the South China Sea for the third time of its 2020 deployment. The carrier strike group includes the Navy's only forward-deployed aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) and the embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 5, the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam (CG 54), and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Halsey (DDG 97) and USS John S. McCain (DDG 56). While in the South China Sea, the strike group is conducting maritime security operations, which include flight operations with fixed and rotary wing aircraft, maritime strike exercises, and coordinated tactical training between surface and air units. Sailing nearly 56,000 nautical miles so far this deployment, the strike group is committed to upholding U.S. security agreements with regional allies and partners, and demonstrating the capability of forward-deployed naval forces to quickly respond to any contingency throughout the region. “Throughout our deployment, we continue our long tradition demonstrating the United States’ commitment to the lawful use of the seas and maintaining open access to the international commons,” said Rear Adm. George Wikoff, commander, Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group. “The focus of our operations has always been, and will continue to be, cooperation alongside our Indo-Pacific allies and partners in promoting regional stability.” Throughout the 2020 deployment, Ronald Reagan and accompanying units have routinely integrated with ally and partner naval forces to build high-end warfighting readiness through air defense, anti-submarine warfare, maritime strike, and force protection exercises. The strike group recently operated in the Indian Ocean, conducted two transits through the Strait of Malacca, and completed various multinational exercises throughout the Indo-Pacific. Taking a cooperative approach to regional security and stability, the United States remains committed to protecting the rights, freedoms, and lawful uses of the sea, and the ability of all countries to exercise those rights. Together, the U.S. and its allies promote peace and prosperity by supporting international norms. The Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group is forward-deployed to the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations in support of a free and open Indo-Pacific region. U.S. 7th Fleet conducts forward-deployed naval operations in support of U.S. national interests in the Indo-Pacific area of operations. As the U.S. Navy's largest numbered fleet, 7th Fleet interacts with 35 other maritime nations to build partnerships that foster maritime security, promote stability, and prevent conflict. https://www.cpf.navy.mil/news.aspx/130749 USS John S. McCain then conducted joint-training with HMAS Arunta and JS Kirisame in the South China Sea on the 19th and 20th of October. https://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/202010/20201020.pdf Italy's Alpino, Spain's Santa Maria, Reina Sofia. and a P-3M, and a P-3C from Germany conducted an at sea parade with JS Oonami at Djibouti port waters on October 15th. https://www.mod.go.jp/j/approach/exchange/area/2020/pdf/20201016_eu-j_b.pdf https://twitter.com/EUinJapan/status/1317014134253289474 About twelve USAF F-15s from Kadena are to head Nyutabara Air Base and conduct joint-training with about fifteen JASDF F-15Js from October 26th to November 5th. https://www.mod.go.jp/j/press/news/2020/10/16d.pdf India gives Australia the green light to join this year's Malabar Exercise, likely to be next month. https://indianexpress.com/article/india/australia-to-be-part-of-malabar-exercise-6789420/ Japan and Vietnam agree on pact on transfer of defense equipment and technology. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20201019/p2g/00m/0na/044000c Japan and Indonesia agree to accelerate talks for defense ties and towards transfer to military tech and equipment. https://www.reuters.com/article/japan-southeastasia-indonesia/indonesia-japan-seek-stronger-security-economic-ties-in-chinas-shadow-idUSKBN2751GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Quote Date 19.10.2020 NATO plans new space center in Ramstein, Germany NATO member states are set to announce the creation of a space center in the air force high command base in Ramstein, Germany, according to reports. It would monitor, and in time likely protect, friendly satellites. Defense ministers from the 30 NATO members plan to announce the building of a new space center on Thursday, news agency dpa and the Süddeutsche Zeitung have reported. According to the reports, the base would join with the NATO air force high command in Ramstein, in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate, and would serve above all as a coordination center for space observation. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that he expected defense ministers to agree to the plan before the meeting on Thursday. He also warned against a "militarization of space," following up on similar comments late last year. "Satellite systems keep our world running in ways many people barely realize. Commerce, weather forecasts, mobile phones and banking all rely on satellites. Space is also essential to NATO, including for our ability to navigate, to gather intelligence, to communicate and to detect missile launches. So it is important that the alliance has a good awareness of what is happening in space, that we continue to have reliable access to space services, and that the alliance maintains its technological edge," Stoltenberg told DW in Brussels. The center would gather information about possible threats to satellites. It is also likely that the space center would be further developed into a command center for defensive measures. "Fast, effective and secure satellite communications are essential for our troops. The space environment has fundamentally changed in the last decade. Space is becoming more crowded and competitive with hundreds of new satellites added every year. And satellites are increasingly vulnerable. Some nations — including Russia and China — are developing anti-satellite systems which could blind, disable or shoot down satellites and create dangerous debris in orbit," Stoltenberg said. Preparing for a 'new area of confrontation' According to information acquired by dpa, NATO is also planning on developing a type of think tank for space activities. Two possible locations for this institution are the German town of Kalkar, in North Rhine-Westphalia, or Toulouse in France. [...] https://www.dw.com/en/nato-plans-new-space-center-in-ramstein-germany/a-55319344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Replenishment was carried out at sea within the PLAN 36th escort group in the Gulf of Aden recently. The 3 ship group consist of destroyer Guiyang, the frigate Zaozhuang, and the replenishment oiler Dongpinghu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Thats pretty new isnt it? I cant recall hearing them being there before with an Fleet Oiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Thats pretty new isnt it? I cant recall hearing them being there before with an Fleet Oiler. They seem to have been doing that level of composition since at least 2010 (2016-6). Six hundred years after Zheng He, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) is back in the Indian Ocean, conducting counter-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden (GoA) and off the Horn of Africa (HoA). Deployed since December 2008 among ships from several other nations, the PLAN “anti-piracy task force” has been patrolling the Indian Ocean without any interruption or indication of an imminent end to the mission.1But while the piracy threat seems to have faded since 2012, and despite the difficulties encountered in operating far from home, China has not reduced its involvement in the region.2During thelast six years, 20 escort task forces (ETFs), each composed of two combat ships supported by an oiler, have been patrolling the GoA and beyond. More than 15,000 sailors have spent between 120 and 220 days far from home. Since February 2016, rather than slowing down its activity in HoA, China has started to build a naval base in Djibouti.3Considering the importance of GoA for maritime economy and especially its energy, sea lines of communication (SLoCs) have made some scholars assert that the counter-piracy operations might be a pretext used by great powers to control those vital SLoCs.4In such a context, it seems relevant to question the possible objective for the deployment of the PLAN in GoA since 2008. https://www.ifri.org/sites/default/files/atoms/files/chinas_military_deployments_in_the_gulf_of_aden_anti-piracy_and_beyond_0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Thanks, Id completely missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Thanks, Id completely missed that. Yeah, stuff goes on under the radar. A more detailed description later on page 17. Since 2008, the composition of the ETF has almost never changed, continuing to consist of three ships (two combat ships and one oiler). In 2012, the replenishment ship was Fuchi-class while the combat units were Jiangkai-class frigates or Luyang-class destroyers. All those ships were indigenous products, and the combat units were commissioned fewer than four years before their deployment. The only exception was the deployment of a relatively old Luhu-class destroyer in 2012 (11thETF), commissioned in 1994, and a Yuzhao-class amphibious transport dock in2010 (6thETF).72The deployment of the Luhu-class might indicate the PLAN’s difficulty in having constantly deployed new ships in the Far Seas for long periods since 2008. The use of an amphibious transport might have been an attempt to deploy more helicopters to escort merchant vessels, or it was an opportunity to share the experience of long-distance deployments with the amphibious units. Until 2012, only two oilers have supported the ETF, demonstrating the enduring lack of replenishment ships in the PLAN.73In 2004, the PLAN had only two Fuchi-class replenishment ships; the delivery of these oilers was resumed in June 2013, and, since then, six new ships have been delivered (up to July 2016). This amazingly fast production of oilers is the result of the lesson learned in GoA concerning the support of a task force in the Far Seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) Four B-1Bs from Dyess Air Force Base, Texas headed to Guam and at least one of them conducted joint-training with 16 F-15Js and two F-2s in the air space around Okinawa and the Sea of Japan on October 20th. The bombers also incorporated USS America into their maneuvers. Quote Approximately 200 Airmen and four B-1B Lancer aircraft with the 9th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron (EBS) from Dyess Air Force Base (AFB), Texas, arrived at Andersen AFB, Guam, to conduct Bomber Task Force missions in support of Pacific Air Forces’ training efforts with allies, partners and joint forces, Oct. 20, 2020. BTF missions enable Airmen to continuously conduct operations throughout the world at a moment’s notice to help maintain global stability and security while enabling units to become familiar with operations in different regions. “Every bomber task force is important because they accomplish both tactical and strategic objectives,” said Lt. Col. Ryan Stallsworth, 9th EBS commander. “As we conduct training operations, we are able to increase our bomber force lethality, readiness and experience across the force. It also demonstrates the department of defense’s ability to operate in an agile fashion to the world.” Before arriving, the bombers integrated with 16 F-15s and 2 F-2s from the Japanese Self-Defense Force (JASDF) in the vicinity of the Sea of Japan. “The training proved to be a very good opportunity to improve tactical skills as well as to show our commitment to the robust Japan-U.S. alliance and the region,” said JASDF Lt Col. Kobayashi Yoshiyuki, Commander, 305th Fighter Squadron. “Through continued bilateral trainings between the Koku-Jieitai and the U.S. Air Force, we are tough and strong, and always ready. We will continue working together with ally and partners to achieve a Free and Open Indo-Pacific.” The bombers also integrated with the forward-deployed amphibious assault ship USS America (LHA 6) in the western Pacific Ocean. “Our ultimate strength in the Indo-Pacific is joint force lethality—our ability to train and operate as one layered, capable, and credible combat team,” said Capt. Luke Frost, USS America’s commanding officer. “The Air Force plays hard. Integrated air defense and sea control operations leveraging top-shelf capabilities of both the Navy and Air Force, like this, allow us to continually field a joint force ready to fight and win.” The US. Air Force has modified its force employment model to enable strategic bombers to operate forward in the Indo-Pacific region from a broader array of worldwide locations with greater operational resilience to align with the National Defense Strategy’s objectives of strategic predictability and operational unpredictability. “Every one of these operations is an opportunity for us to gain critical experience and become efficient in the deployment and execution processes,” Stallsworth said. “The U.S. Air Force is willing to and capable of operating out of different strategic locations. Our dynamic force employment construct helps us focus on being operationally unpredictable while still being strategically predictable.” Having the B-1B Lancer aircraft at Andersen AFB enables U.S. Air Force personnel the ability to conduct training missions alongside their fellow Airmen within the Indo-Pacific and potentially work with their counterparts from allied and partner nations within the region. “Training alongside our allies is important because it improves our combined military capabilities and the likelihood of success to accomplish military objectives,” Stallsworth said. “Reinforcing our connectivity and building personal relationships with our allies is critical to seamlessly executing combined objectives in the future.” The BTF also helps the Airmen focus on the full spectrum readiness of military operations, whether it’s combat missions, humanitarian assistance or disaster relief. “This deployment has everything to do with developing the integral elements of agile combat employment,” said Capt. David Teubl, 9th EBS project officer. “Whether that’s working with new entities to provide our capabilities and discuss requirements needed to complete tasks or simply changing how we complete our missions to become more agile.” Airmen and B-1B Lancers from Dyess AFB last deployed to Guam in May in support of BTF operations. https://www.pacaf.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2391752/dyess-airmen-arrive-in-indo-pacific-for-bomber-task-force-integrate-with-koku-j/ https://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/R2/20201023.pdf In addition to the above mentioned B-1Bs, USS America conducted joint-training with two JASDF F-35As in the airspace over the Pacific Ocean on October 20th. https://twitter.com/JASDF_PAO/status/1319576778986254336?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet https://www.mod.go.jp/asdf/news/houdou/R2/20201023_02.pdf A JMSDF P-3C and a USN P-8A conducted joint-training in info-sharing and ASW over the waters east of Tsugaru on October 21st. https://www.mod.go.jp/msdf/release/202010/20201022.pdf A video showing the ARDB (Amphibious Rapid Deployment Brigade) loading up and going through checks on October 22nd in preparation for the joint-training coming up with the US military which will be part of Exercise Keen Sword. About 50 vehicles and boats were loaded up into JS Kunisaki. Edited October 23, 2020 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 JasonJ, as far as you know, did Japan have any plans in case N.A.T.O. and the Warsaw Pact went at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rick said: JasonJ, as far as you know, did Japan have any plans in case N.A.T.O. and the Warsaw Pact went at it? I haven't looked deeply into Japanese plans in that era TBH. I don't know if any specific plans have been released. I reckon that if US ability to maintain the nuclear umbrella was seen to be at risk, then Japan would make its own nuclear arsenal since China had demonstrated a nuclear bomb in 1964. I'd imagine air and naval forces probably would go on high alert and maintain defense of Japan's periphery. If the US would want Japan to actively start shooting at Soviet naval stuff, then Japan probably would need to draw up some quick provisions to make it legal to do so. Although Japanese wete used in total secrecy in the Korean War so if really necessary, probably could get them participating before any formalizing law goes into effect. JMSDF was pretty small though around 1970. About 30 surface combat warships and 7 or so subs. So not much. So an arms build up may be a consideration. Edited October 23, 2020 by JasonJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 Unusual open exchange on NATO's annual "Steadfast Noon" nuclear sharing exercise. Quote Secretary General visits Dutch airbase hosting NATO deterrence exercise 16 Oct. 2020 - Last updated: 16 Oct. 2020 14:48 Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg attended NATO’s annual nuclear exercise at Volkel airbase in the Netherlands on 16 October 2020 alongside Dutch Defence Minister Ank Bijleveld as well as NATO’s top military commander, General Tod Wolters. “This exercise is an important test for the Alliance’s nuclear deterrent,” the Secretary General said. “It is a routine, defensive exercise. And it is not directed against any country. The purpose of NATO’s nuclear deterrent is not to provoke a conflict but to preserve peace, deter aggression and prevent coercion. In an increasingly uncertain world, our nuclear forces continue to play an important role in our collective defence,” he added. This exercise is long-planned and is not linked to any current world events. With more than 50 aircraft from across the alliance taking part, the exercise is hosted by a different NATO country each year. This year, training flights are taking place over parts of western Europe and the North Sea. Aircraft involved in the exercise do not carry live bombs. At Volkel Airbase, Mr Stoltenberg spoke to aircrews and was briefed on the exercise scenario by the base commander. He also exchanged views with Defence Minister Bijleveld on the importance of NATO’s nuclear deterrence, stressing that at a time of evolving security challenges, it is essential that the Alliance remains protected by the full spectrum of capabilities, and promotes transparency over NATO activities to reduce risks of misunderstandings. “Today’s exercise shows that Allies are determined to ensure that NATO's nuclear deterrent remains safe, secure and effective,” the Secretary General said. At the same time, he added, “NATO aspires to a world without nuclear weapons. Since the end of the Cold War, NATO has reduced the number of nuclear weapons in Europe by around 90%.” https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_178834.htm Quote Military exercises held in Germany as part of NATO's “joint nuclear missions” Media reports on NATO exercises in Germany in mid-October with a terrific title, Steadfast Noon, have come to our attention. Reportedly, these exercises involved the fine-tuning of skills for using nuclear weapons as part of the alliance’s “joint nuclear missions.” Fighter-bombers from a number of countries equipped to use American nuclear weapons that are deployed in Europe were involved in the exercises. Deployed US nuclear weapons will remain not only in Germany, but also in Belgium, Holland, Italy and Turkey. The Americans will upgrade their nuclear bombs, and European NATO members will upgrade the aircraft carrying these weapons. Once again, we are compelled to point out that amidst the crisis in arms control, the unlimited buildup by certain states and their allies, as well as their alliances, of their military capabilities and, especially, the provocative training in carrying out nuclear missions harm international security, destabilise the international situation and could well lead to disastrous consequences. By the way, the very NATO agencies that engage in countering a so-called Russian information threat could use their resources to tell the Europeans about these exercises in more detail, so that they understand what kind of exercises are taking place on their respective territories or their airspace. They could even show some pictures and infographics and also use computer graphics for the Europeans to get a better idea of what kind of strikes were being practiced on their territory, albeit in a test mode. Our NATO colleagues usually do this with regard to Russia, so this time they are welcome to do so with regard to themselves. Go ahead and show your people what kind of scenarios you are working on, because these are practical scenarios after all. The US practice of exercises related to preparing and using nuclear weapons by the personnel of the armed forces of states that do not possess such weapons is an outright and flagrant violation of articles 1 and 2 of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), which significantly undermines its viability. There can be only one solution to this problem, namely, to return all US nuclear weapons to US national territory, to eliminate the corresponding infrastructure which provides for rapid deployment of these weapons on the territories of other states, as well as a refusal to conduct exercises involving the preparation and use of nuclear weapons by personnel of the armed forces of the states that do not possess such weapons. https://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4401503#13 Quote 23.10.2020 (14:40) The German military representative was briefed about the position of the Russian Defence Ministry on the participation of the German side in NATO military exercises «STEADFAST NOON» and «RESILIENT GUARD» On October 23, the Defence Attaché at the Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany in Moscow was invited to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The German military representative was informed about the position of the Russian Defence Ministry on the participation of the German side in NATO military exercises «STEADFAST NOON» and «RESILIENT GUARD» where the use of American tactical nuclear weapon was practiced. The Defence Attaché was told that involving personnel and dual-purpose aviation of non-nuclear NATO-States as the Federal Republic of Germany in practicing the scenarios of using nuclear weapon is a flagrant violation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Such actions lead to lowering the threshold for use of nuclear weapons, incite tensions through Russia-NATO line of contacts, and adversely affect the level of trust in Europe. http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12320946@egNews Now "Resilient Guard" was a national air defense exercise unconnected to "Steadfast Noon", which didn't involve any nuclear weapons, but I guess they needed another line for the press release. 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Stuart Galbraith Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just a personal observation. Up till about a year ago, the Russian Army was reexpanding at breakneck speed, with new Divisions and Corp expanding. They even flirted with giving Airborne Divisions their 3rd Regiment back. I guess they were still running off the defence budget that reached an end in 2020. Now, it seems all new expansion has fallen off a cliff. Perhaps they are converting more tanks and suchlike, but the breathless manner in which the expansion was occuring seems to have ended. One of the best English sources ive found for developments in expanding of the Russian Army was Russiandefence.net, but there has been only two reported developments since last year, and one of those was the comparatively cheap effort at setting up new training grounds. https://www.russiadefence.net/t4957p350-russian-military-reform Ive not seen any elsewhere either, so if they are still happening, they somehow passed me by. Im probably going out on a limb here, but unless there is a massive influx of money from somewhere, I think we have reached peak Russia, at least as far as the ground forces is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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