m1a1mg Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I don't play games. Conversion issues were all tied to HP, not MS. HP chose not to provide support for my 11 month old laptop. Stability is absolutely rock solid. Boot times with an SSD are under 15 seconds. Spend some time here before you make the leap. http://www.eightforums.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I came across this article in the Wall Street Journal Online this morning. The writer says that older computers can have problems, even if it meets the requirements for Windows 8. I hope it provides helpful insight:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323936804578229682529360570.html?mod=lifestyle_newsreel Windows 8: Not for Old-at-Heart PCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max H Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Brand new Alienware M17x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Pellagio Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Sadly the fact I have a life greatly impacts negatively on my gaming. Unfortunately I have to spend far too much free time socialising, drinking and enjoying the company of women with loose morals when I should be devoting it to trawling articles on Tom's hardware and debating the merits of different brands of DIMM modules...It's a curse it ell you, a curse! Edited January 9, 2013 by Archie Pellagio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Unfortunately I have to spend far too much free time socialising, drinking and enjoying the company of women with loose morals I don't like you now. First serious problem I encountered with my WP8 phone is that it won't talk to my car. Both have Microsoft software but they won't talk over bluetooth. Should have expected this...OK I can still use my WP7 phone fine to stream music but now I can't use the steering wheel and voice controls to take/make calls since that phone SIM is now disabled. Pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) MS Surface Pro goes on sale in a couple hours. Was supposed to be revealed in NYC at midnight but the blizzard cancelled that. From everything I'm reading (including all the negative reviews) it does sound exactly like the device I've been waiting for for a long time. Just a couple things stop me from getting it outright:- it's overpriced; but the alternatives aren't any cheaper really- it's a version 1.0 device. In a few months there will likely be a better version, especially when Haswell comes out.But still I'm afraid I'll break in the next couple weeks and get one unless there's a flood of negative user reviews. .............. So it went on sale and the 128GB version is already sold out pretty much everywhere and people are saying there were many customers turned away at the stores. Pretty stupid of MS, they could have sold many more units today if they were prepared but they got scared that the RT wasn't selling and decided to do a more limited initial run of the Pro. Which is dumb, the RT is far less attractive than the Pro and they should have expected higher, not lower, demand. .... Here's the longest review I've seen (it's pretty enthusiastic) - http://betanews.com/2013/02/05/surface-pro-first-impressions-review/You can google for a ton of negative reviews (which are all basically "it's great but it's not perfect", umm, ok). Edited February 10, 2013 by Fritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralB Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 What use is that? Does that mean anytime I want to use a different program, I have to reboot? No, 7 will run XP in an internal VM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Maximum PC declares the Start button gone forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickard N Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 MS Surface Pro goes on sale in a couple hours. Was supposed to be revealed in NYC at midnight but the blizzard cancelled that. From everything I'm reading (including all the negative reviews) it does sound exactly like the device I've been waiting for for a long time. Just a couple things stop me from getting it outright:- it's overpriced; but the alternatives aren't any cheaper really- it's a version 1.0 device. In a few months there will likely be a better version, especially when Haswell comes out.But still I'm afraid I'll break in the next couple weeks and get one unless there's a flood of negative user reviews. .............. So it went on sale and the 128GB version is already sold out pretty much everywhere and people are saying there were many customers turned away at the stores. Pretty stupid of MS, they could have sold many more units today if they were prepared but they got scared that the RT wasn't selling and decided to do a more limited initial run of the Pro. Which is dumb, the RT is far less attractive than the Pro and they should have expected higher, not lower, demand. .... Here's the longest review I've seen (it's pretty enthusiastic) - http://betanews.com/...essions-review/You can google for a ton of negative reviews (which are all basically "it's great but it's not perfect", umm, ok).Interesting review, I'm actually finding myself interested in the surface pro, first tablet-ish-type comuter I find interesting. /R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 I was able to buy the Win8 license upgrade for $15 online. Its kind of a squirrelly process, but I was eventually able to download the installation media ISO. I've been running 8 with Classic Shell for a few weeks now; formatted the C: partition and did a clean install. Unsat as for as I'm concerned, will be wiping and reinstalling Win7Pro on the next rainy weekend. IE works poorly, Flash running within Firefox is hiccuppy, cannot disable UAC without losing access to Apps, etc. Restores from hibernation wicked fast, though. Windows 9 may turn out to be a really good OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Oh look! Surface Pro sold out within hours of release!! Then you go on ebay and find a ton still unopened, obviously all bought to be sold with $200-300 profit. Sadly there are enough suckers who will pay the premium for whatever reason. Now here's a real serious tech review http://www.anandtech.com/show/6695/microsoft-surface-pro-review/5 Edited February 12, 2013 by Fritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I went out and was able to play with a Windows 8 laptop, and after about 15 minutes, I wanted to shoot myself. That interface SUCKS!!!! It is twice as hard to get to your programs, and unless you are using it for just facebook, myspace, twitter, social networking, games, it is useless for real business type work. And when you get to a real desktop, there is no F**king way to get to your programs to run them. I am getting Victoria a new laptop next week, and I am going to scrub Windows 8 and install WIndows 7 back on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingCanOpener Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I uh... use Windows 8 and have no problems running real apps (Photoshop, Lightroom, Office, AutoCAD) on it without any problem. Once you log in, click on the desktop tile and you have your regular desktop--quick launch icons and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/01/04/windows-8-review-the-thing-blows/ Long, but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralB Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've got no problems with it. Some of the 'settings' type details are a little harder to get at, but once you're on the desktop it's 95% identical, UI-wise. And it's definitely faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've read comments by power users that there is a learning curve but once you get the hang of it you can do stuff faster than 7. 15 minutes won't cut it. I love Metro on my WP8 Lumia. Not sure how it would work for my PC so no rush to upgrade there but I do WANT a Surface Pro real bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a1mg Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 With Classic Shell, it looks just like whichever version of Windows you like best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I have Victoria's new PC loaded with Office 2010, and Windows 8 is annoying me somewhat. I would love to have a start menu to find all the programs, including accessories, so without adding Classic shell, can someone tell me how to do that? Its not as bad as I thought, but man, will it take some getting used to. I just installed AVAST, unistalled Norton, found out that Spybot will not work on WIndows 8, and seem to have locked the system down for security. Any thoughts on Skype? This is the system I got her, and added a wireless mouse and backpack. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7637185&Sku=S203-156134 The Samsung won out over the HP, and I have been a big Hewlett-Packard fan for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a1mg Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Why would you not add Classic Shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I don't want to screw with her computer too much. Why would you not add Classic Shell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralB Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I just log in, hit 'escape' (or click the Desktop tile), and I'm there. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a1mg Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 AdmiralB, Classic Shell gives you the old fashioned start menu. You can even select from different versions of Windows. http://www.classicshell.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 So far Victoria is dealing with windows 8 well, so I guess younger, non power users are fine on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 So far Victoria is dealing with windows 8 well, so I guess younger, non power users are fine on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 How do you access the Programs menu in Win 8 desktop mode??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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