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Exactly that´s the point! It took 2 to THREE SdKfz 9 to tow one Tiger off the Battlefield. One Ferdinand would be easier to drive and much better protected. So perhaps more Tigers saved and repaired. Hermann

In my opinion: no. They should have had them all converted to ARV´s. Two or three to each special Tiger Battalion. With some MG´s on board any of them against nearby infantrists. Also AA Tanks nearby. Hermann

Mid 1960´s???? Typo? IIRC Mid 1960´s was still lots of 5"/38 in USN ... Hermann

225 Pandur 6 x 6s, 36 of them for AD. Mistral II missiles may be added to the 30 mm gun. And 28 FLAK 35 mm, will be modernised to the latest configuration. Better than nothing, but not much. Hermann

I´ve read it´s made by Tisas, Turkiye. But what I really condemn, is that the sights are not correct. Why call it an Inglis, if it hasn´t typical Inglis sights? Still would consider buying the L9A1 or even the colour case hardended model. Also a nickeled one would be interesting, but IIRC another Turkish Company is making even a SS version, and thinks about an Alu framed gun. Hermann

IIRC we were told, that the 105 mm HEAT round would pierce 360 mm Steel. The "Trick" of the Obus G was, that it was fired through a rifled gun, and had much better Ballistics than a "blunt" and "Finned" HEAT round. The Obus G looked like a Spitzer HE BT round. Hermann

From the thickness of the barrel I am quite sure it´s the 105 mm Version. And the Obus G on Video. IIRC the double baffle muzzle brake hat to be changed later to allow for APFSDS Dart Ammo. Hermann

IMO "Thermite rounds" means "Panzersprenggranate", which is AP, but with HE content, which explodes after delay. So "destroying a penetrated tank really good". Just my opinion. Hermann

I think it was a much underestimated plane. I wish it would have had more sales success. I think no country that bought it, ever regretted this. It did its duty. And it was a beautiful plane. Hermann

The Kürassier ( "Cuirassier" ), which has the French 105 mm Turret, still has two drums in the back of the turret, which are rotated manually. The Kürassier has the Steyr APC chassis as basis, but is much improved: easy steering like a bycicle and stronger Diesel engine. The Obus G HEAT round was used then, as by that time only the Russians had APFSDS Dart ammo. The 105 mm Obus G grenade was the same for the 105 mm AMX 13 gun and the AMX 30´s gun IIRC, AMX 30´s cartridge shell was larger, though. Kürassier was improved to use APFSDS from Mid 80´s on. Hermann

To quote user "On the Way", without his permission: "Gender:Male Interests:Why the hell did the French stop making that tracked sports car with the pirated German canon? Point me to the tank races." 😁

I said copy, and I mean in regards to performance. And that it is. Hermann

Exactly my opinion: the AMX13 ( and the Kürassier ) are more like self propelled AT guns, armoured only against small arms fire and up to 40 mm ( 80´s ammo! NO APFSDS, only APDS ) at the front. Use is in ambush, and the amount of short time firepower is impressive. 75 mm is Panther gun copy, rebored 90 and later 105 mm use Obus G = Gessner or Geßner Granate. A German or Austrian engineer. It´s a spin stabilised HEAT round. Hermann

Do you know what you want to say or prove??? Either you had a little too much of ... whatever, or you are just arguing for arguing´s sake. Your post is totally confusing. Mixing HE / HEAT and Vietnam era vehicle with RCL guns with WWII TD´s operation ... Hermann

I don´t know, if you all have seen the AMX 13 "Loader". It´s principally two drums - HAND turned - to the turrets back. As the turret is oszillating, the drums are always in line to the cannon. So regardless of round used, the cannon fires, one of the 2 men in the turret rotate manually one of the two drums, and slide the chosen shell into the cannon. In Line. AMX ( and later Kürassier ) is rather a self propelled gun, than a Tank. More in line with the Marder II / III than a Centurion. The AMX 13 is the Panther ´s gun on a cheap, quick, agile suspension. Shooting HE is simply a waste. AP is the intended round. The kind of shell in the drums and on the way into the gun is totally irrelevant. Hermann