IRIS-T SLM for Switzerland

[Dawes]

This system seems to be gaining in popularity. Ukraine war experience?

https://www.ar.admin.ch/en/nsb?id=105630

[Ssnake]

Intercept rates seem to be exceptionally good.

[bojan]

Claimed interception rate.

[Olof Larsson]

7 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Intercept rates seem to be exceptionally good.

Compared to the Patriot missile system it is also more optimized vs. aerodynamic targets and it's non-american.

Compared to the NASAMS it doesn't use US missiles.

Compared to the VL-MICA it has twice the range.

Compared to the CAMM? Well it has seen more use in combat I guess.

[seahawk]

2 hours ago, bojan said:

Claimed interception rate.

against Shaheds and cruise missiles...

[bojan]

Even worse.

[Dawes]

Is this system even designed to have an anti-TBM capability?

[seahawk]

No, but it is also not supposed - it fills the gap between systems like Patriot and Stinger.

[Ssnake]

IRIS-T is basically the new Roland, "with enhanced capabilities".

As it happens, Wikipedia doesn't have an English version but maybe autotranslate is good enough your you:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T_SLM

[Dawes]

Looks like the system has room to be developed/upgraded significantly (from the linked article):

"IRIS-T HYDEF stands for IRIS-T Hypersonic Defense. This variant is currently under development and is intended to be used to combat hypersonic weapons . Its horizontal engagement range is approximately 100 km, with a vertical engagement range of up to approximately 50 km."

[Ssnake]

5 hours ago, Dawes said:

Looks like the system has room to be developed/upgraded significantly (from the linked article):

Given that it's almost brand new, it'd be a real disappointment if there was no growth potential.

[DB]

That version would be IRIS-T in name only  - a completely different missile like SM-6 compared to SM-1 or SM-2 (brushing all the variants under the carpet).

I suspect that any company that has some GBAD capability is looking to steal market share from Patriot over the next few years, given that the current administration is proving economically hostile to previous customers, and there's no guarantee that won't change even when the administration changes.

[Olof Larsson]

3 hours ago, DB said:

That version would be IRIS-T in name only  - a completely different missile like SM-6 compared to SM-1 or SM-2 (brushing all the variants under the carpet).

I suspect that any company that has some GBAD capability is looking to steal market share from Patriot over the next few years, given that the current administration is proving economically hostile to previous customers, and there's no guarantee that won't change even when the administration changes.

Or that the US administration would deliver missiles even to its allies in case of war. I wounder if we will se a ground launched booster equipped Meteor in the future.

[DB]

An interesting question, Olof. Whether the existing "nozzleless booster" in Meteor would be sufficient for a stationary launch platform would be an important consideration.

 

[Olof Larsson]

30 minutes ago, DB said:

An interesting question, Olof. Whether the existing "nozzleless booster" in Meteor would be sufficient for a stationary launch platform would be an important consideration.

 

You would most likely have to add a separate booster stage, to make sure the missile has enough speed, when the ramjet starts. One disadvantage would be large minimum range.

[Ssnake]

...for that you have IRIS-T!

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