Information about the Red Ice Box timeline

[kyuzoaoi]

I stumbled about a story here about a surviving White Russian remnant in Alaska called the Red Ice Box and how they will be involved in the Second World War. Are there any more stories and vignettes about this timeline? 

[RETAC21]

I think there was only one thread, on the basis that Alaska wasn't sold to the US and that the white Russians would retreat there and make it into a proto-Taiwan that then fights WW2 as an allied power in the Pacific and sending troops to Europe. There could be another thread on military equipment to parallel the alt history.

[Markus Becker]

One contributer was Simon Tan who passed away, the main author is Banshee One who's only active as a passive reader of TN these days. 

[kyuzoaoi]

Ah, I see. I would like to contribute and expand the lore about Alaska/Russian America. Maybe how the current military is organized and their relations with Old Russia today.

[RETAC21]

7 hours ago, kyuzoaoi said:

Ah, I see. I would like to contribute and expand the lore about Alaska/Russian America. Maybe how the current military is organized and their relations with Old Russia today.

Feel free to resurrect the old thread, surely it will spark some debate.

[kyuzoaoi]

I see, I might even make a world map of this world!

[kyuzoaoi]

By the way, I made an infobox about a Russian Alaska. Also, another one made a Wikipedia infobox about Alaska, but disappeared. https://www.deviantart.com/baarai/art/White-Alaska-Wiki-Infobox-797554913

I might remake this soon as people will add the necessary info to have it fit to the timeline.

 

[kyuzoaoi]

https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/topic/36294-red-ice-box/

We might save these topics for posterity...

 

 

[kyuzoaoi]

@RETAC21, I found this chart of alternate history modern Imperial Russian uniforms. By the way, which uniforms in this chart would be included in the Russian Republic (Alaska) Army uniform?

https://www.deviantart.com/thefalconette/art/Mini-Scale-Chevalier-Guards-Regiment-977042249

[RETAC21]

13 minutes ago, kyuzoaoi said:

@RETAC21, I found this chart of alternate history modern Imperial Russian uniforms. By the way, which uniforms in this chart would be included in the Russian Republic (Alaska) Army uniform?

https://www.deviantart.com/thefalconette/art/Mini-Scale-Chevalier-Guards-Regiment-977042249

The cold weather ones for sure!

 

[kyuzoaoi]

@RETAC21, I found this chart of alternate history modern Imperial Russian uniforms. By the way, which uniforms in this chart would be included in the Russian Republic (Alaska) Army uniform?

https://www.deviantart.com/thefalconette/art/Mini-Scale-Chevalier-Guards-Regiment-977042249

The Shoigu ofiska must go and be replaced by an Eisenhower jacket. 

Also thinking of a list of modern equipment of the Russian Republic/Alaska Army. I heard Simon Tan is fond of a FAL rifle but personally I do want them to go for a Galil-based rifle or a descendant of the Madsen Battle RIfle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_LAR

[RETAC21]

8 minutes ago, kyuzoaoi said:

@RETAC21, I found this chart of alternate history modern Imperial Russian uniforms. By the way, which uniforms in this chart would be included in the Russian Republic (Alaska) Army uniform?

https://www.deviantart.com/thefalconette/art/Mini-Scale-Chevalier-Guards-Regiment-977042249

The Shoigu ofiska must go and be replaced by an Eisenhower jacket. 

Also thinking of a list of modern equipment of the Russian Republic/Alaska Army. I heard Simon Tan is fond of a FAL rifle but personally I do want them to go for a Galil-based rifle or a descendant of the Madsen Battle RIfle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_LAR

Talking from memory here, but I seem to remember the RusAm (the abbreviation used in this grate sight) used American uniforms, so it makes sense that the style would be mostly American with Russian shoulder boards and caps. You can assume the M1 helmet would be used widely. Re small arms and such, I don't quite recall what we agreed but the FAL would be a contender.

[kyuzoaoi]

@RETAC21 the sight of White Russians wearing M1s is baffling in our world, but in this world, not surprising.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_(каска)

In the Russian Wikipedia article about the M1, apparently the Red Navy also used M1s coming from the Lend Lease so there is a basis for M1-wearing Russians. During the Interwar, the Whites probably used either the Brodie hat, the Czech helmet, or the Polish one.

Also we need to add White Russia/Greece relations. With them being the only Orthodox countries not under communist regimes at that time they would surely have great relationship. Possibly White Russian/Greek bi-lateral military exercises would be common.

https://ejournals.ph/article.php?id=14616

Also, being someone from the Philippines, I would like to know about what would happen to these Russian emigrants to the Philippines (coming from Harbin after the Chinese Civil War). Possibly never visiting the Philippines or their stay is shorter before going to Russian America. 

Also possibly in the present day, we could see RusAm "volunteers" for Putin's side and also volunteers for the Ukrainian side. 

 

 

 

 

 

[RETAC21]

1 minute ago, kyuzoaoi said:

@RETAC21 the sight of White Russians wearing M1s is baffling in our world, but in this world, not surprising.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_(каска)

In the Russian Wikipedia article about the M1, apparently the Red Navy also used M1s coming from the Lend Lease so there is a basis for M1-wearing Russians. During the Interwar, the Whites probably used either the Brodie hat, the Czech helmet, or the Polish one.

Also we need to add White Russia/Greece relations. With them being the only Orthodox countries not under communist regimes at that time they would surely have great relationship. Possibly White Russian/Greek bi-lateral military exercises would be common.

https://ejournals.ph/article.php?id=14616

Also, being someone from the Philippines, I would like to know about what would happen to these Russian emigrants to the Philippines (coming from Harbin after the Chinese Civil War). Possibly never visiting the Philippines or their stay is shorter before going to Russian America. 

Also possibly in the present day, we could see RusAm "volunteers" for Putin's side and also volunteers for the Ukrainian side. 

 

 

 

 

 

I have brought up the thread up, do not hesitate to add to it, Greece never figured as far as I can remember but on the 1st page you have the modern organisation of the Army

[BansheeOne]

On 2/6/2025 at 1:14 PM, Markus Becker said:

One contributer was Simon Tan who passed away, the main author is Banshee One who's only active as a passive reader of TN these days. 

Well, for this particular purpose -

The continued Russian American history through the Korean War:

The Red Ice Box Meta Thread for off-game discussion:

 

The TO&E Meta Thread for military organizations:

The Legal Meta Thread for discussion of a Russian American constitution: