rmgill Posted January 9 Posted January 9 we have kinds of the same ecosystem in the the areas below the fall line with lots of pine forests. The pine needles burn quickly, and if brush is kept down the fires will sweep through a stand of trees and not cause much in the way of true damage. Leaving the trees marked but largely unscathed. Longleaf pine especially. Regular proscribed burns are what keep things healthy and from becoming a problem.
R011 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 3 hours ago, Mr King said: So far, I haven't seen anything here that indicates the LAFD leadership are not doing as well as can be expected under the circumstances. They don't set policy on water use or land clearance and I'm quite sure they didn't asl for their budget to be cut.
lucklucky Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) Did they recommended less trees? aka less combustible? and what about lack of water? Edited January 9 by lucklucky
Stargrunt6 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 https://x.com/notPBD/status/1877460874861957150 Helo scores no-joy trying to dump dirt on fire.
R011 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 37 minutes ago, lucklucky said: Did they recommended less trees? aka less combustible? and what about lack of water? I have no idea if they or their predecessors have made any recommendations or even been consulted. This situation didn't just happen on their watch, after all. Or if they did if it would have been considered by the local and state politicians who can make these decisions. I do rather suspect their focus on DEI has not helped in any significant way, though.
NickM Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Just now, rmgill said: 🤔 Well I don't want to sign up for "X" but what do the commenters say about that basically 'tough sh/t' comment she gave? Nevermind, I choked by my reservations and signed up--and I am heartened that the commentators are reasonably 'sane'.
Mr King Posted January 10 Posted January 10 2 hours ago, rmgill said: 🤔 https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1736408174100223.mp4
R011 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 31 minutes ago, NickM said: Well I don't want to sign up for "X" but what do the commenters say about that basically 'tough sh/t' comment she gave? Nevermind, I choked by my reservations and signed up--and I am heartened that the commentators are reasonably 'sane'. That clip was obviously heavily edited. That always makes me suspicious that context has been deliberately removed to distort what was said.
R011 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 17 minutes ago, Mr King said: Hahaha the rich shitlibs are getting their homes looted. So are rich conservatives and just ordinary people.
Mr King Posted January 10 Posted January 10 53 minutes ago, R011 said: So are rich conservatives and just ordinary people. And that legitimately sucks and I have empathy for them, but for the rich shitlibs its karma for their support of BLM / Antifa looters / arsonist. Some even going so far as to bail them out so they could go back on the streets to continue their destruction and theft of innocent every day peoples property and means of making a living.
lucklucky Posted January 10 Posted January 10 https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/before-and-after-pics-show-complete-devastation-of-la-wildfires-photos/ Seems a lot of houses, buildings are build with combustible materials. Very few brick ones. On another note here is Ben Affleck home, so many trees nearby it is at high risk. Lovely but a danger, not appropriate for semi arid desert climate. https://pagesix.com/2025/01/09/celebrity-news/ben-affleck-returns-to-his-20m-pacific-palisades-home-as-fires-rage-on/
NickM Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Just now, lucklucky said: https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/us-news/before-and-after-pics-show-complete-devastation-of-la-wildfires-photos/ Seems a lot of houses, buildings are build with combustible materials. Very few brick ones. On another note here is Ben Affleck home, so many trees nearby it is at high risk. Lovely but a danger, not appropriate for semi arid desert climate. https://pagesix.com/2025/01/09/celebrity-news/ben-affleck-returns-to-his-20m-pacific-palisades-home-as-fires-rage-on/ Just as an aside: brick has been considered a 'no go' for decades due to this being earthquake country. The wooden frames 'flex' enough to survive most small to medium sized quakes, for what THAT'S worth.
lucklucky Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) Ok. Maybe another material that could resist more. Edited January 10 by lucklucky
NickM Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Just now, Mr King said: And that legitimately sucks and I have empathy for them, but for the rich shitlibs its karma for their support of BLM / Antifa looters / arsonist. Some even going so far as to bail them out so they could go back on the streets to continue their destruction and theft of innocent every day peoples property and means of making a living. King, it's only 'fung schway' when a known supporter and contributor to Antifa (I mean we KNOW they paid the bails for the ne'er do wells who torched the 'mostly peaceful protests'. ) gets looted, otherwise it's normies getting a raw deal. BUT seriously the greater LA area AIN'T that rural/vegitated--it ain't like Laurel Canyon and such places, how are the fires getting into cities? Or are the greenbelts, landscaping and brush clearing really that 'much' and is there really no water pressure for hoses?
Mr King Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Sorry to go off topic but Is anyone else getting weird formatting on posts? I'm on Firefox if that makes any difference.
rmgill Posted January 10 Posted January 10 2 hours ago, R011 said: So are rich conservatives and just ordinary people. 80% democrat. They voted for THIS.
rmgill Posted January 10 Posted January 10 41 minutes ago, NickM said: King, it's only 'fung schway' when a known supporter and contributor to Antifa (I mean we KNOW they paid the bails for the ne'er do wells who torched the 'mostly peaceful protests'. ) gets looted, otherwise it's normies getting a raw deal. BUT seriously the greater LA area AIN'T that rural/vegitated--it ain't like Laurel Canyon and such places, how are the fires getting into cities? Or are the greenbelts, landscaping and brush clearing really that 'much' and is there really no water pressure for hoses? They've not been keeping the resovoirs filled. So...no, no water for hoses in some areas. Completely dry hydrants. Also, in the urban areas, hedges, trees, trash, lots of trash. Google Maps has a Wildfires layer. Flip between that and satellite then you can see the amount of shrubbery proximate to homes. The Sunset, Palisades and Eaton fire are all into the flats as well as the hills. The Sunset fire is the one over Hollywood/West Hollywood. . https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1159517,-118.2009085,90379m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e8?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEwNy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Sinistar Posted January 10 Posted January 10 the seasonal santa ana winds is probably a major factor in what is going on the fires are not downtown they are still located within the hills and foothills, that is to say heavily outlying suburban areas gavin newsom was thought to be a top candidate to run for the white house when is term is up as california governor it would be interesting to see how he might score on the electoral map after his tenure and this event
NickM Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Just now, Sinistar said: the seasonal santa ana winds is probably a major factor in what is going on the fires are not downtown they are still located within the hills and foothills, that is to say heavily outlying suburban areas gavin newsom was thought to be a top candidate to run for the white house when is term is up as california governor it would be interesting to see how he might score on the electoral map after his tenure and this event So the fires are STILL in the 'burbs and 'The Hills', mainly--I wonder how long before the local 'fire bugs' get amped up.
Tim Sielbeck Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, NickM said: So the fires are STILL in the 'burbs and 'The Hills', mainly--I wonder how long before the local 'fire bugs' get amped up. They've already started. I saw a video of it earlier but can't seem to find it right now.
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