United Health Care hit

[Tim the Tank Nut]

so dude gets all his shots off despite a jam.  Then just walks and drives away.

I can't believe they can't find this guy.  Question is, how hard are they looking?

Inside job, professional hit, or gifted amateur?

[RETAC21]

31 minutes ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

so dude gets all his shots off despite a jam.  Then just walks and drives away.

I can't believe they can't find this guy.  Question is, how hard are they looking?

Inside job, professional hit, or gifted amateur?

Professional hit, guy that worked on health insurance and corporate stuff for so long would have had made some enemies during his climb up the ladder.

Killer could be out of the States by now.

[Stuart Galbraith]

This was an interesting, if brief, appraisal. Basically it wasnt a welrod as people suspected. It was a really badly adapted modern pistol that didnt like firing through a silencer.

 

So its an assassin, but one that doesnt seem to have fired many silenced pistols. To me that sounds like somebody that played Hitman once too often.

[Skywalkre]

The response to this on reddit has been... interesting.  The number of posts making the front page at one time rivals any of the biggest news stories in the last decade and none of them have an ounce of sympathy for the victim (highlights how Americans absolutely detest health insurance companies).  Many point out the number of potential suspects is upwards of 60 million (rough estimate of how many Americans deal with UHC).  In recent years they've apparently become the top insurer as measured by % of claims denied.

That's why I'm doubtful this was a 'professional' hit.  We've talked before on here how so many incidents in this country could have been so much worse if the perps had half a brain.  NYC is massive with lots of very smart people with access to lots of money.  This could be a wall street bro who had something denied, has the money to get the gun (but no experience with it), the brains to take half decent precautions, and then move on with his life.

I just saw news coverage that the casings had messages on them ('defy', 'defend', and 'depose') so would seem to reinforce this may be more personal?  Revenge for a loved one who suffered or died from perceived insurance actions?

ETA - A top comment in one of the reddit threads mentions the shell casing words are very similar to the title of a book that discusses the ins and outs of health insurance companies and denying coverage.  So maybe political/domestic terrorism possibly inspired by an incident with a loved one and UHC?

Edited December 5, 2024 by Skywalkre

[rmgill]

1 hour ago, Tim the Tank Nut said:

so dude gets all his shots off despite a jam.  Then just walks and drives away.

I can't believe they can't find this guy.  Question is, how hard are they looking?

Inside job, professional hit, or gifted amateur?

The thinking a friend had was that the can was improvised with no piston and would not cycle with the bullets used, so it reqired manual charging each time. Seems like he was expecting that as there was speedy repetition. 

[rmgill]

26 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

 

I just saw news coverage that the casings had messages on them ('defy', 'defend', and 'depose') so would seem to reinforce this may be more personal?  Revenge for a loved one who suffered or died from perceived insurance actions?

What better way as a professional to throw misdirection on the pile of evidence left behind? 

[Ivanhoe]

If there's money involved, its about the money.

 

[Steven P Allen]

Don't have UHC anymore since the Great Implosion of my college, but they always did pretty well by us.  Yes, they denied a pre-approval of my wife's, but, unbeknownst to us, the request included some dicey, experimental procedures, things that the surgeon who eventually did the work demonstrated were not only iffy but unnecessary.  Can't fault UHC over that.  We've had much greater trouble with the current plan through my wife's employer.  U will be off of that this coming year.

As for Reddit:  any conclusions drawn from that cesspool are instantly suspect and thoroughly smelly.

[PaulFormerlyinSaudi]

 Gifted amateur. A professional Russian assassin would not write on the cartridges. Further he was using a shitty weapon that jammed over and over again. It is like he never even rehearsed.

 

Question; Anyone here rooting for the killer?

Edited December 5, 2024 by PaulFormerlyinSaudi

[Ivanhoe]

Higher res photo of shooter;

 

[Stargrunt6]

7 hours ago, PaulFormerlyinSaudi said:

 Gifted amateur. A professional Russian assassin would not write on the cartridges. Further he was using a shitty weapon that jammed over and over again. It is like he never even rehearsed.

 

Question; Anyone here rooting for the killer?

Lol glowing so bright

[Stuart Galbraith]

He is going to be caught. Apparently not only did he leave live rounds behind (apparently along with a fingerprint on something), he also left a coffee cup, so likely they have his DNA too. If you have followed how the Golden State Killer was caught, if any of his family have their DNA on a DNA database anywhere (and assuming he wasnt adopted), sooner or later they will get him.

I dont think he was a professional, though the police say his shooting was pretty good. To me that sounds like someone with a grudge.

[Rick]

18 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

The response to this on reddit has been... interesting.  The number of posts making the front page at one time rivals any of the biggest news stories in the last decade and none of them have an ounce of sympathy for the victim (highlights how Americans absolutely detest health insurance companies).  Many point out the number of potential suspects is upwards of 60 million (rough estimate of how many Americans deal with UHC).  In recent years they've apparently become the top insurer as measured by % of claims denied.

That's why I'm doubtful this was a 'professional' hit.  We've talked before on here how so many incidents in this country could have been so much worse if the perps had half a brain.  NYC is massive with lots of very smart people with access to lots of money.  This could be a wall street bro who had something denied, has the money to get the gun (but no experience with it), the brains to take half decent precautions, and then move on with his life.

I just saw news coverage that the casings had messages on them ('defy', 'defend', and 'depose') so would seem to reinforce this may be more personal?  Revenge for a loved one who suffered or died from perceived insurance actions?

ETA - A top comment in one of the reddit threads mentions the shell casing words are very similar to the title of a book that discusses the ins and outs of health insurance companies and denying coverage.  So maybe political/domestic terrorism possibly inspired by an incident with a loved one and UHC?

I don't follow reddit but for once I'm in full agreement with you, especially your first paragraph.

[sunday]

8 hours ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Lol glowing so bright

Found the Fed!

[urbanoid]

Mandatory reaction pic

[PaulFormerlyinSaudi]

Day three and he is still on the run. Supposedly he took the bus from Atlanta, but that is hardly a clue at all. 

[Mr King]

From what I am seeing the general consensus on both the left and the right is nothing of value was lost.

[urbanoid]

1 minute ago, Mr King said:

From what I am seeing the general consensus on both the left and the right is nothing of value was lost.

Depends...

https://x.com/Anchovy_Pizza/status/1864758438447763953

 

[PaulFormerlyinSaudi]

Many murder fanboys over here;

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/COMPLETEANARCHY/

[JWB]

Police are yet to recover the murder weapon, however police sources told the New York Post the gun is thought to be a Swiss-made Brugger & Thomet VP9.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14166739/WW2-era-gun-UnitedHealthcare-CEO-Brian-Thompson.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline

[Ivanhoe]

 

[Ivanhoe]

One TV expert described the situation of a "shell" sticking in the ejection port as a "stovetop."

Those stovetops are a bear to clear.

[rmgill]

Ian has apparently disputed that that was a VP9. 
 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by rmgill

[Stuart Galbraith]

Post 3....

[Mr King]

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NYC: People began to arrive to the CEO Shooter lookalike competition in Washington Square Park in NYC

https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1865459736151245251