The end of NATO - good for Europe?

[Stuart Galbraith]

Wow. I didnt know you guys spent THAT much on healthcare.  

[Ivanhoe]

Keep in mind that number probably includes billions in research, as well as subsidies given to foreign countries. We also subsidize foreign nations on pharmaceuticals. If the USAF bombed every nation that threatened to ignore patent rights to negotiate below market rates for meds, the world would be in ruins. If I am ever installed as POTUS, buy a helmet.

Depending on whose numbers you believe, if the US has 30M illegal immigrants, most of whom abuse the health system, that would imply about 1-2% of the spending is on illegals.

Also, that 16% number probably includes several percent going into the legal system due to the lawsuit lottery thing.

 

[Stargrunt6]

1 hour ago, RETAC21 said:

The US spends 16.5% of its GDP in health????

 

My brother in Christ, lemme tell ya about Medicare, Medicaid and the Social Security Agency. Disability accounts for a massive bulk of federal payouts.  Look up graphs for it, but make sure you have a good rag to muffle your screams.  Then there's the large elderly population that accounts for medicare payouts as well.  

 

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

Keep in mind that number probably includes billions in research, as well as subsidies given to foreign countries. We also subsidize foreign nations on pharmaceuticals. If the USAF bombed every nation that threatened to ignore patent rights to negotiate below market rates for meds, the world would be in ruins. If I am ever installed as POTUS, buy a helmet.

Depending on whose numbers you believe, if the US has 30M illegal immigrants, most of whom abuse the health system, that would imply about 1-2% of the spending is on illegals.

Also, that 16% number probably includes several percent going into the legal system due to the lawsuit lottery thing.

 

Ozempic in the US is about a nice but bare-bones AR per month.  In Mexico, it's a used HiPoint that should be in an evidence locker. 

[Ivanhoe]

16 minutes ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Ozempic in the US is about a nice but bare-bones AR per month.  In Mexico, it's a used HiPoint that should be in an evidence locker. 

Sir, the proper analogy-unit-of-measure, according to astronomers, is either alligators or giraffes (apparently, half-giraffes are also now a unit of measure, I read that one recently).

If you're buying used HiPoints south of the border, only handle them with gloves. If you have to use one in extremis, the prints will lead the authorities astray. Or so I hear. Allegedly.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

3 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Keep in mind that number probably includes billions in research, as well as subsidies given to foreign countries. We also subsidize foreign nations on pharmaceuticals. If the USAF bombed every nation that threatened to ignore patent rights to negotiate below market rates for meds, the world would be in ruins. If I am ever installed as POTUS, buy a helmet.

Depending on whose numbers you believe, if the US has 30M illegal immigrants, most of whom abuse the health system, that would imply about 1-2% of the spending is on illegals.

Also, that 16% number probably includes several percent going into the legal system due to the lawsuit lottery thing.

 

Sure, but so does everyone else's.