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Beautiful country, but its going to take quite awhile to get the infrastructure back;

 

 

 

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Tennessee and Florida are stepping up;

 

 

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https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/1000-soldiers-at-fort-liberty-on-standby-to-assist-with-helene-recovery/
 

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FORT LIBERTY, N.C. (WNCN) — President Joe Biden activated 1,000 U.S. Army soldiers for deployment to western North Carolina. More than 24 hours later, troops are still waiting to deploy from Fort Liberty.

The soldiers are supposed to assist with delivering food and essential supplies to isolated communities devastated by Helene.

 

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While the White House has given soldiers the greenlight to deploy, the state has not yet requested the support. The North Carolina Army National Guard, which is leading the ground recovery efforts, tells CBS17 they are still accessing the needs in the area and they have not made an official request for support from the U.S. Army.

Meanwhile, Fort Liberty is sending seven heavy lift helicopters to Asheville to assist.

 

Surely the author of the piece meant "assessing the needs" not "accessing the needs."

7 Shithooks can be very helpful in moving heavy supplies from Asheville up into the mountains.

Not sure what's going on with the NC governor, this is playing out a bit like Katrina.

Also, there are claims that some soldiers from Fort Liberty are already up in the mountains assisting, I assume taking leave to do strong-back/weak-mind stuff while waiting for orders.

 

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Cell service really sporadic;

 

 

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Just now, Mr King said:

Oh my bad, ONLY over half a trillion

 

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that ain't an Israeli on the right....

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That's US citizens on the left and an illegal immigrant on the right further showing that the current administration's priorities are not the well being of the citizens of the country they are part of.

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7 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Great job posting the exact same story (just on a different site) that I posted about that incident.  Proof, once again, that you don't bother to read what you're responding to on here.  🙄

No, I was and am QUITE aware. Note that more sources are citing this instance with the interview of the interested parties to add to the substantiation. 

S2 underground noted that more incidents are being reported and called for folks to carefully document the encounters. 

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Another account. 
 

 

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9 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Beautiful country, but its going to take quite awhile to get the infrastructure back;

 

 

 

Watched that last night - eye opening 

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this is a 500 year level flooding event and the Federal government can't seem to get its act together.  The state government can't seem to do any better.  There's no getting around the fact that the government's resources are being spent on people who are NOT in the disaster zone.  As far as Florida goes, I'd expect some level of self responsibility on the part of people who willingly live in the path of a hurricane travel pattern but these folks further north don't generally encounter this type of event and it's unrealistic to expect them to be fully prepared for it.

I well remember the media's reaction to the Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath.  The comparative silence here is defeaning.  I'd also note that at this point I don't really trust the legacy media on fast moving stuff like this.  The first hand reports are coming out of the disaster area by the individuals involved.  Whilst some of the incidents could be chalked up to tension and misunderstanding influenced by extreme stress there are too many worrying problems to assume that the situation is under control.

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2 hours ago, LT Ducky said:

Watched that last night - eye opening 

Indeed. I think there are aftermaths of big earthquakes that showed less destruction. Hearbreaking.

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Lots of tough situations ongoing.

At least 223 people have died and hundreds are unaccounted for in the destruction wrought by Hurricane Helene since it made landfall in Florida on Sept. 26.

More than a week later, some residents and communities remain isolated, hundreds of thousands are without power, and spotty service has made communication difficult.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/live-blog/hurricane-helene-live-updates-rcna173973

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5 hours ago, rmgill said:

Another account. 
 

 

Rather douche-y of Mr. Gunsngear to blame the state of Tennessee for the actions of one county sheriff. I understand this is an emotional situation, more so the closer one gets to Ground Zero, but keep it real.

Note that NC is also doing the warehousing thing in Asheville. My impression of the Asheville situation is that the airport authorities were worried about supply stacks and people impeding aircraft ops. Which makes sense. In the case of that one TN county sheriff, the obsession with "accountability" sounds like he wants to take credit for delivering all donations along with county- and state-funded goods. May have an election coming up.

update; Sheriff Clifton Worley was just elected for a two-year stint;

https://www.wjhl.com/news/your-local-election-hq/clifton-worley-to-fill-remainder-of-eddie-testers-term-as-johnson-county-sheriff/

Something odd going on with Johnson County's FB page. On posts concerning recovery efforts, almost all comments have been hidden.

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16 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

First, it's nowhere near 'trillions' that we've spent on both those combined.  All US support going back to the founding of Israel is around a third of a trillion.  Add in what we've given to Ukraine and you're looking at over half a trillion total.

Second, there's plenty of money now.  They have something like $20 billion to work with (and the aid for migrants was less than a billion).  The issue is we still have two months of hurricane season left.  If another major storm hits (and this season was predicted to be bad) we likely won't be able to handle that.  There's also concern about funding down the road.  Relief efforts for events of this magnitude need to go on for a long time.  FEMA has been short-funded going back nearly a decade.

Congress could come back into session to pass more funding for this event and to cover future commitments to recovery.  There's bipartisan support from Senators of effected states to do so.  The holdup is Speaker Johnson, an R, who doesn't see the need to address anything til Congress comes back in mid-Nov. 

The DOD budget this year is something like 800 billion. Out of that, 20 billion went to Ukraine.

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6 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

That's US citizens on the left and an illegal immigrant on the right further showing that the current administration's priorities are not the well being of the citizens of the country they are part of.

Not just an illegal on the right, but I think one of the Venezo Goons who were part of a gang that beat up a couple of NYC cops and then got released without bail.

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Some valuable insights:

- churches and fire stations handling receiving/distribution of supplies

- GPS wrong, resulting in semis trying to take rural roads and crashing

- water, gas, cash, satellite comms

- not surprisingly, tale after tale of construction trades and farmers stepping up to clear roads

- first time I've ever heard about well drillers drilling new wells real-time

 

 

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Follow-up on the private pilot who was threatened with arrest;

 

The county official trying to CYA talked about how dangerous the private pilot's actions were.

Yet the husband eventually was rescued by a FD from Michigan, who pulled him across a flooding river on a rope. Based on the video, heli rescue looks about 1000 times safer than fording/swimming a river.

 

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Locals getting it done with the help of a CH-47 crew. 

 

 

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What I love is the locals getting their excavators and dump trucks and rebuilding bridges and roads where they can with what they have. I predict FEDs coming in and slow rolling everything with federal requirements, ACOE red tape and environmental impacts. 
 

I almost think they should use those regulators as fill for the embankments but that would create voids. 

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The stretch of I-40 between I-81 and Asheville is pretty important for freight haulage.

 

 

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I have the impression that a substantial part of the supplies problem is that intel on road conditions is pretty inaccurate.

If you're not familiar, hotshotting is a niche trucking industry where guys with 3/4 and 1-ton duallies tow smaller loads for a fee. In good economic times its mostly RVs and such, sometimes hay.

 

 

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Priorities….

 

 

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Sure. FEMA money wasn’t used for migrants they categorized as refugees. 
 

 

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A comment from MZW tonight...

 

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"Fucking feds. Got a reserve engineer battalion with route clearance companies, vertical and horizontal construction, a bridging unit and an integrated forward support company headquartered an hour outside of Asheville. Still haven’t been called up. Fuck if they don’t have active duty guys coming in from the other side of the country to sit around though."

 

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