Am I the only one who is disconcerted by lack of women conscription in the UKR Army?

[Roman Alymov]

9 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

Nobody has ever, of course, evaded service in the Russian armed forces.  No doubt they are protected by women too?

     Plenty of people have evaded service in Russia (mostly by using money, not women - as Russia is sort of more well-off country and borders are open). Others are trying to use military service to avoid problems with law. It was anecdotal case recently in Moscow : well known "lawyer" known for his murky deals in some high-profile cases, was arrested for fraud. Interestingly, the man was officially listed as serving as T-80 tank commander in one of former Donetsk militia brigades. No need to tell the man have never actually been in "his unit"....

    Still, unlike in "Ukraine", people are not gangbeaten into mobilization minivans on the streets of Russia ( pro-Russians insist this moment will come soon er or later, but not even close to that at current moment).

[Pavel Novak]

10 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

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    Still, unlike in "Ukraine", people are not gangbeaten into mobilization minivans on the streets of Russia ( pro-Russians insist this moment will come soon er or later, but not even close to that at current moment).

I am not sure that male population of LNR and DNR would agree with this statement.

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, Pavel Novak said:

I am not sure that male population of LNR and DNR would agree with this statement.

Male population of (former) LNR and DNR are still the backbone of most capable units of Russian Army, despite of being relatively less armed and equiped. 

[On the way]

16 hours ago, glenn239 said:

The alternative is to not mobilize women, given the conclusion that doing so is not likely to be the difference between victory and defeat for Ukraine.

and how do you know this? Have the Ukrainians done a study on this? 

[sunday]

48 minutes ago, On the way said:

Have the Ukrainians done a study on this? 

Do you think that is necessary to guess the outcome of the conflict?

[glenn239]

5 hours ago, On the way said:

and how do you know this? Have the Ukrainians done a study on this? 

You're the one suggesting that women be drafted into the Ukrainian military as an act to stave off impending defeat.  Well, what evidence do you have that doing this will prevent defeat?  The Ukrainians are losing because their military is gutted in equipment, they're short of ammunition of all types, their cadre of elite troops has dwindled, their home front is tired of the war an increasingly resistant, their economy is in tatters, the West is losing interest and spare resources, and the conscription sweeps are producing less and less motivated units that have a tendency not to hold when attacked.  So here, you come to Tanknet and say that if the Ukrainians start mobilizing women, while millions of healthy men with the right connections party in dance clubs, that this will make things better and not worse.  Why do you think that?  Isn't this just another strategy Macguffin in a long line of plot devices?

 

Edited September 23 by glenn239

[On the way]

On 9/22/2024 at 12:20 PM, Roman Alymov said:

     Plenty of people have evaded service in Russia (mostly by using money, not women - as Russia is sort of more well-off country and borders are open). Others are trying to use military service to avoid problems with law. It was anecdotal case recently in Moscow : well known "lawyer" known for his murky deals in some high-profile cases, was arrested for fraud. Interestingly, the man was officially listed as serving as T-80 tank commander in one of former Donetsk militia brigades. No need to tell the man have never actually been in "his unit"....

    Still, unlike in "Ukraine", people are not gangbeaten into mobilization minivans on the streets of Russia ( pro-Russians insist this moment will come soon er or later, but not even close to that at current moment).

I saw on the news that protesters against the war, were arrested and the tried and send to the frontline. I think this was sometime last year when Russian anti war protests were still a thing. So hard to say the Russains are not gangbeating their own citizens into joining the Army