Josh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 11 minutes ago, rmgill said: Were you this critical of Obama supporters? I bet I could list a lot more anti Obama MSM articles than you can list conservative anti Trump articles. Do want to do that dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Josh said: failing that, which of the Trump yes men desperately grabbing his coat tails do you think motivates the base when he’s gone? You have the Temerity to talk about coat tails in the Kamala thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Josh said: I bet I could list a lot more anti Obama MSM articles than you can list conservative anti Trump articles. Do want to do that dance? He didn't ask about your Googling abilities. He asked if you were this critical of Obama supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Josh said: I bet I could list a lot more anti Obama MSM articles than you can list conservative anti Trump articles. Do want to do that dance? Evasive. Were you this tolerant of the worshipful Obama Supporters as you are with the Trump Supporters? No godlike worship here: And as to how candidates were portrayed, how many Obama Halo photos were there in the media and press? Edited July 27 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 hours ago, sunday said: Could be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Amusing dogpile on a Kamala voter; Some of you will recognize ABL on the lower left. The guy doing the talking is Anton Daniels. I've seen him before somewhere. He has about 300k subscribers on YT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, rmgill said: You have the Temerity to talk about coat tails in the Kamala thread? Yes, because I don’t think Republicans have any direction post Trump. Where do you see this going? Feel free to post in the Trump thread instead; that is the more logical place for the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Mr King said: He didn't ask about your Googling abilities. He asked if you were this critical of Obama supporters. No. Is there a reason I should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, rmgill said: Evasive. Were you this tolerant of the worshipful Obama Supporters as you are with the Trump Supporters? No godlike worship here: And as to how candidates were portrayed, how many Obama Halo photos were there in the media and press? Obama has definitely been portrayed as a more successful, and a more progressive, leader than his actual record really reveals. But are you going to tell me Trump has not been completely over portrayed as a conservative? The three times married guy who payed a porn star and held a bible upside down and claims to love “Kings 2”? The guy who’s every single business outside of Trump Tower and The Apprentice failed? Obama was at least a skilled politician; Trump is a failed businessman who lost the house, lost the senate, lost his reelection, and if he loses this time might cement the utter failure of the GOP despite their systemic advantages in the senate an electoral college. If Trump loses this election, I think it would be fair to say he’s set the Republican Party back decades. Edited July 27 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) Scientific American magazine, at the bottom of a credibility hole and digging. Edited July 27 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 5 hours ago, Josh said: Obama has definitely been portrayed as a more successful, and a more progressive, leader than his actual record really reveals. But are you going to tell me Trump has not been completely over portrayed as a conservative? The three times married guy who payed a porn star and held a bible upside down and claims to love “Kings 2”? The guy who’s every single business outside of Trump Tower and The Apprentice failed? Obama was at least a skilled politician; Trump is a failed businessman who lost the house, lost the senate, lost his reelection, and if he loses this time might cement the utter failure of the GOP despite their systemic advantages in the senate an electoral college. If Trump loses this election, I think it would be fair to say he’s set the Republican Party back decades. No, because they cant reform. They will just pick the most Trumplike candidate they can find, to fill the void. Which probably is going to be Vance, or anyone they can find like him. There isnt any way back. They purged all the moderates. The central core as a party is culture war, and they dont really have much else left to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 hours ago, Josh said: Obama has definitely been portrayed as a more successful, and a more progressive, leader than his actual record really reveals. But are you going to tell me Trump has not been completely over portrayed as a conservative? The three times married guy who payed a porn star and held a bible upside down and claims to love “Kings 2”? The guy who’s every single business outside of Trump Tower and The Apprentice failed? Obama was at least a skilled politician; Trump is a failed businessman who lost the house, lost the senate, lost his reelection, and if he loses this time might cement the utter failure of the GOP despite their systemic advantages in the senate an electoral college. If Trump loses this election, I think it would be fair to say he’s set the Republican Party back decades. Jim Jones didn't do any of that. That's right, you were referring to Donald J. Trump, a distinction without difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said: There isnt any way back. They purged all the moderates. The central core as a party is culture war, and they dont really have much else left to offer. What is a "moderate" Republican? For that matter, are there any moderate Democrats, and just what is a "moderate" Democrat if such a creature did exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 9 hours ago, Josh said: Isn’t the point that the leftists win and usher in the end times? failing that, which of the Trump yes men desperately grabbing his coat tails do you think motivates the base when he’s gone? From the Declaration of Independence "...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. " It is not the man, but when enough good voters say enough is enough. The most beneficial people in our society; the two-parent families, those work work and create jobs, those who pay their taxes and are law abiding, those are the voters that are being trod and trampled on by the federal governmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said: There isnt any way back. They purged all the moderates. The central core as a party is culture war, and they dont really have much else left to offer. Did you watch the Gaylympics yesterday? Did you enjoy the opening ceremony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Rick said: It is not the man, but when enough good voters say enough is enough. The most beneficial people in our society; the two-parent families, those work work and create jobs, those who pay their taxes and are law abiding, those are the voters that are being trod and trampled on by the federal governmet. However, with the GOP it is about the man, else they wouldn't have begged an unprincipled carnival barker, a snake oil salesman, to bear their standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) Quote Deeds, not words. Especially these words: Edited July 27 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, DKTanker said: Did you watch the Gaylympics yesterday? Did you enjoy the opening ceremony? Homophobic much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, DKTanker said: What is a "moderate" Republican? For that matter, are there any moderate Democrats, and just what is a "moderate" Democrat if such a creature did exist? Anyone who isnt a carpet biting maniac like Jewish Space Lasers, or a cheese eating surrender monkey like JD Vance. Im sure there are other definitions, but thats the one im rolling with. Edited July 27 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, DKTanker said: However, with the GOP it is about the man, else they wouldn't have begged an unprincipled carnival barker, a snake oil salesman, to bear their standard. Respectfully disagree. The G.O.P. voter is for the individual that can begin the process of terminating the over reach of the federal government. The only person, so far, who has demonstrated this ability is Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, DKTanker said: What is a "moderate" Republican? For that matter, are there any moderate Democrats, and just what is a "moderate" Democrat if such a creature did exist? There are plenty of moderate Democrats and Republicans. I would say they are the majority in the Republican Party. The problem is the extremes in both parties have an out sized influence in both parties The Trumpers I know fall into two categories: The obnoxious ones. The moderate ones who see Trump as standing up for their values, fighting against DEI, ESG and the extreme trans agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Media attempting to help Vice President Harris? "Webpage that rated Kamala Harris the 'most liberal' senator in 2019 suddenly disappears" "The self-described "government transparency website" scored Harris as the "most liberal compared to all senators" in 2019, outranking Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren at the time." "the web page with the ranking, which was widely covered in news reports during the 2020 election, was recently deactivated. The link now displays a "Page Not Found" message. The Internet Archive shows the page was deleted sometime between July 10 and July 23, " Classic example of a memory hole. https://www.yahoo.com/news/webpage-rated-kamala-harris-most-003527629.html https://www.abc3340.com/news/nation-world/government-transparency-site-pulls-page-naming-kamala-harris-most-liberal-senator-government-transparency-site-govtrack-removed-a-2019-page-naming-vice-president-kamala-harris-as-that-years-most-liberal-senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 11 hours ago, Josh said: No. Is there a reason I should be? With all your rhetoric about maga you came across as having a problem with cults of personality. But I see your problem is just Trump, and you're fine with cults of personality as long as you politically align with them. Though to be fair, maybe you were just not old enough to witness the cult of Obama take place first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Trump is the Orange Kwisatz Haderach, Harris is the black Kwisatz Haderach. Yes, you clearly have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Homophobic much? I cant speak for DKtanker, but as for myself I supported gay marriage. I thought that was a reasonable request. Fast forward 9 years and now we have trans toddlers, mentally ill men in drag artificially injected into everything, groomed 8 year old boys doing drag shows with perverts, and a whole booming industry centered around sterilizing children before they reach puberty, let alone the age of 18. Now its clear the "homophobes" were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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