Because Kamala

[DKTanker]

1 hour ago, Rick said:

For the beginning of your paragraph I agree with you on leftest motivation, but not for the right. The right is rightly concerned over the ever rising evil power of the federal government over their lives. Trump is the man willing to combat this wretched over reach of the federal government. 

But no other.  Yes, I'm very well aware that is the general sentiment.  What happens when he's no longer The Man?

[sunday]

1 minute ago, DKTanker said:

But no other.  Yes, I'm very well aware that is the general sentiment.  What happens when he's no longer The Man?

Usually, if there is a substitute, then that one becomes The Man.

If no substitute is found, then there is no Man anymore.

[rmgill]

6 hours ago, Josh said:

what part of Trumps last term was smaller government or less spending?

 

Reducing regulations at the federal level. 

Not using the federal mandates to force manufacturing of COVID19 supplies. He called the mfgrs and asked. I still remember CNN and leftist complaining that he wasn't exercising emergency powers to force the private sector to his will. Which, considering they kept calling him a fascist is odd. 

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, DKTanker said:

But no other.  Yes, I'm very well aware that is the general sentiment.  What happens when he's no longer The Man?

There will be the Supreme Court appointments. Does the death of Chevron Deference not mean anything? 

JD vance seems to be a possibly good continuation. He's younger. I hope he fits the mold. One can never tell. 

Edited July 26 by rmgill

[rmgill]

Kamala had a scripted event where Barry and Michell called her and she walked and talked with them on the phone giving him her support. 
 

And as to BLM supprt that she doesn't have....

Here she is advocating defunding the police. Something that the media has tried to retcon in the face of the rioting and spike in violent and property crime. 
 

And Lastly, she met with Netanyahu. Where is Biden? And she's throwing more shade at Israel and more support to Gaza. She wants a deal for the swap of the hostages. What happened to the policy of not paying for hostages? 
 

I note that she doesn't demand the accountability of the Hamas leadership for their warcrimes on October 7. I guess the rape and murder was ok? I do love that the antisemitism and islamophobia have been equivalent to the DNC. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Ryan, even Trump is pushing for the deal to be signed right now.

Besides, you cant hold the 'we dont pay for hostages' mantra against her, when damn near every Government you have had since Reagan has done just that. Iran-Contra anyone?

[rmgill]

44 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ryan, even Trump is pushing for the deal to be signed right now.

Besides, you cant hold the 'we dont pay for hostages' mantra against her, when damn near every Government you have had since Reagan has done just that. Iran-Contra anyone?

IS it because he favors Hamas and Gaza or is it because he favors ending the conflict in as best a way as possible? He notes that Israel is taking a beating in PR which means he's aware of the complexities. 

I tell you one thing that's unlikely under Trump, more money sent to Iran. Practically speaking, the Biden team paid in Advance for the hostages by giving millions to Iran. 

Edited July 26 by rmgill

[Josh]

4 hours ago, sunday said:

I am not contesting the odds; those seem about right if the election was held today. But Rasmussen has historically had very inaccurate polls that over estimated Republican votes. A shame 538 was liquidated; they had detailed ratings for all major polling outlets. Rasmussen was D level. Interestingly Fox News was an A- if I recall, and their numbers were routinely condemned by Trump in 2020.

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, rmgill said:

IS it because he favors Hamas and Gaza or is it because he favors ending the conflict in as best a way as possible? He notes that Israel is taking a beating in PR which means he's aware of the complexities. 

I tell you one thing that's unlikely under Trump, more money sent to Iran. Practically speaking, the Biden team paid in Advance for the hostages by giving millions to Iran. 

I think they both believe in ending the conflict. And whilst I dont doubt Harris is probably cowtowing to the far left whom are every bit the useful idiots Netanyahu calls them, call me naive, but I think she wants those American hostages (in fact all the hostages) back as much as you do. I daresay so does Trump. Every way you look at it, its time to do a deal. So why criticize her for believing what everyone else is saying too?

Yes, and the money to Iran was a mistake. But here is the thing, you got your people back, and no more are going to go to Iran. It cost Iran far more than they gained. In fact, Im not convinced they gained very much, because the money is still under lock and key.

Its very easy to play these games 'we dont make deals for hostages', but you know what, everyone does. The sole occcasion when anyone hasnt was Canada for Amanda Lindhout, and you really need to look up what happened to her as a result.

[Josh]

Voter registration is way up, especially among 18-34. To put this in perspective, Tailor Swift got 35,000 people to register off a link on her website.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4790269-harris-voter-registration/amp/

[rmgill]

29 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

I think they both believe in ending the conflict. And whilst I dont doubt Harris is probably cowtowing to the far left whom are every bit the useful idiots Netanyahu calls them, call me naive, but I think she wants those American hostages (in fact all the hostages) back as much as you do. I daresay so does Trump. Every way you look at it, its time to do a deal. So why criticize her for believing what everyone else is saying too?

Given she was ok with the rioting and violence with the BLM riots, I think you're too generous to her. 

I think she views such people as non-entities that can be discarded and disposed of as necessary. Her record as a prosecutor would indicate such. She's not a humanist. Noone laughs about doing pot when one was also imprisoning people for possessing the same substance. 

29 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Yes, and the money to Iran was a mistake. But here is the thing, you got your people back, and no more are going to go to Iran.

Stuart. Biden Gave Iran MORE money. October 7 was a direct result of that infusion of cash. The same as if we sent Hamas the money directly. 

I know you're opposed to the Iran Hamas alliance. The Biden admin gave them cover, cash and aid. It was the same as if someone in the UK sent Germany a few shiploads of ammo stocks and Amatol in 1938 and then wondered why Germany was so flush with ammo. 

29 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

It cost Iran far more than they gained. In fact, Im not convinced they gained very much, because the money is still under lock and key.

Iran is playing a different game. They're picking away at the alliance arrayed against them and the US democrats are complicit in that. 
 

29 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Its very easy to play these games 'we dont make deals for hostages', but you know what, everyone does. The sole occcasion when anyone hasnt was Canada for Amanda Lindhout, and you really need to look up what happened to her as a result.

Direct payments for them are foolish. 

[sunday]

Could be true

[Skywalkre]

14 hours ago, Mr King said:

 

For real what a bunch of nut jobs. I dont know why those nutjobs that were gaslighted for over 5 years now about Biden's mental acuity and who are are now being gaslighted about Kamala being border czar by the same folks would have serious distrust of any narratives those folks put out, and participate in speculation about what the truth actually is.

 

Ok... and your point is?  Just because you can point out where your opponents were wrong on something and still trying to argue they were right doesn't excuse throwing out conspiracy theory BS that didn't have a shred of evidence to support it or lend credence to it if you do.  We had that X post someone linked claiming they heard from a guy who heard from a guy from LV PD that this and that... and then never any follow-up with solid evidence supporting it.  Hearsay turned into fact.  We had video of Biden walking off AF1 when he arrived on the East coast after his LV trip and yet folks were claiming he may be incapacitated.  We had regular news updates highlighting Biden's actions while in isolation and folks were screaming "where is he?!"  If you have blinders on to the world and can't see anything that doesn't mean whatever you want to make up has any validity.

[Skywalkre]

8 hours ago, Rick said:

Last sentence first. The left will almost reign supreme until the return of Jesus Christ. What we are enduring now was foretold in the Good Book.

If you do a search online you can find some blog posts from Pastors arguing (in jest) Trump is the antichrist.  Just sayin'...

[Skywalkre]

11 hours ago, Josh said:

what part of Trumps last term was smaller government or less spending?

Note how no one has any comment on 'less spending'... because Trump is no fiscal conservative.  One of the things Project 2025 gets right is talking about how to cut Federal spending we need to take a serious look at, and cut back on, entitlement spending (SS and Medicare).  Trump's already stated he would never do that, because he's a populist first and foremost, and would never dare taking the lead on something that is that unpopular (especially with a major voting bloc of his).

[Murph]

Andy Ngo is no conservative, but he is honest.  

 

 

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Note how no one has any comment on 'less spending'... because Trump is no fiscal conservative.

Quite right. We need less spending. We're NOT going to get it with Kamala OR Biden. 

I want X, Y and Z. 

Trump will get us X and Y, but possibly not Z. 

Biden or Kamala will get us the opposite of X, Y and WAY more inverse of Z. 

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

  One of the things Project 2025 gets right is talking about how to cut Federal spending we need to take a serious look at, and cut back on, entitlement spending (SS and Medicare). 

Yes. So why is the left trying to tell us the awful, terrible things about 2025, while making great noises about their 2030 energy plan or the 2050 energy and green policy. 

Are you prepared to eat bugs instead of meat? Are you prepared to not fly unless you're part of the nomenklatura? 

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Trump's already stated he would never do that, because he's a populist first and foremost, and would never dare taking the lead on something that is that unpopular (especially with a major voting bloc of his).

That's because you have to get folks in congress to get on board and ANY time ANYONE talks about entitlement reform the democrats scream that the GOP is going to take everyones' Social Security and Medicare away. 

So, ok, great. What do you want? Maybe the DNC can make some real bi-partisan proposals for the entitlement reform. 

Edited July 26 by rmgill

[Mr King]

3 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Ok... and your point is?  Just because you can point out where your opponents were wrong on something and still trying to argue they were right doesn't excuse throwing out conspiracy theory BS that didn't have a shred of evidence to support it or lend credence to it if you do.  We had that X post someone linked claiming they heard from a guy who heard from a guy from LV PD that this and that... and then never any follow-up with solid evidence supporting it.  Hearsay turned into fact.  We had video of Biden walking off AF1 when he arrived on the East coast after his LV trip and yet folks were claiming he may be incapacitated.  We had regular news updates highlighting Biden's actions while in isolation and folks were screaming "where is he?!"  If you have blinders on to the world and can't see anything that doesn't mean whatever you want to make up has any validity.

 

I don't know how to make it any more simple for you to comprehend

• People know there is a conspiracy being orchestrated by the political elite and their corporate media puppets to lie and gaslight them, its been shown to be true repeatedly
• For example just three weeks ago the political / media machine were pushing the narrative that Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack" and they had never seen him in better mental health, despite clearly showing this was not true in the debate, not to mention over the course the last 5 years.
• These gaslighted people sift through all this constant disinformation to find what little truth is hidden amongst it
• These gaslighted people try to construct what the truth might actually be i.e. conspiracy theories
• People like you come in after the fact and while fully admitting the political elite and corporate media lied to these people, and then claim its the people who are at fault for trying to determine what the actual truth is

You might as well say they should not have dressed so sexy if they didn't want to be raped.

 

 

[Josh]

21 minutes ago, Mr King said:

 

I don't know how to make it any more simple for you to comprehend

• People know there is a conspiracy being orchestrated by the political elite and their corporate media puppets to lie and gaslight them, its been shown to be true repeatedly
• For example just three weeks ago the political / media machine were pushing the narrative that Joe Biden was "sharp as a tack" and they had never seen him in better mental health, despite clearly showing this was not true in the debate, not to mention over the course the last 5 years.
• These gaslighted people sift through all this constant disinformation to find what little truth is hidden amongst it
• These gaslighted people try to construct what the truth might actually be i.e. conspiracy theories
• People like you come in after the fact and while fully admitting the political elite and corporate media lied to these people, and then claim its the people who are at fault for trying to determine what the actual truth is

You might as well say they should not have dressed so sexy if they didn't want to be raped.

 

 

Even if this narrative were completely accurate (and it is not, depending on which media outlets you are referring to), conservative media does the exact same thing: white washes any mistakes or embarrassing questions that might befall Trumps campaign for thier viewers. In fact, if anything more so:  every media outlet I read has in fact printed articles questioning Biden’s age, if not as editorials then as factual reporting of polls or opinions of celebs and leading Dems. Every late night show host has made fun of Biden’s age at least weekly.

if anything the party that throws its credibility and criticism down the memory hole is the GOP: Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Tucker Carlson, Niki Haley, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and JD Vance have all implied or directly stated that Trump is unfit to be president at various times for various reasons. All of them endorsed him, several spoke at the convention, and one is his VP nominee.

What do you attribute that to?

[Mr King]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

Even if this narrative were completely accurate (and it is not, depending on which media outlets you are referring to), conservative media does the exact same thing: white washes any mistakes or embarrassing questions that might befall Trumps campaign for thier viewers. In fact, if anything more so:  every media outlet I read has in fact printed articles questioning Biden’s age, if not as editorials then as factual reporting of polls or opinions of celebs and leading Dems. Every late night show host has made fun of Biden’s age at least weekly.

if anything the party that throws its credibility and criticism down the memory hole is the GOP: Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, Tucker Carlson, Niki Haley, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and JD Vance have all implied or directly stated that Trump is unfit to be president at various times for various reasons. All of them endorsed him, several spoke at the convention, and one is his VP nominee.

What do you attribute that to?

 

So what you're saying is yes, the establishment media machine lies and gaslights people but whatabout the conservative media machine

First I would not defend the conservative media machine when its full of gifters and liars. I have said before Fox is at best controlled opposition, so you wont be seeing me defending Fox. The rest of the conservative media machine is largely made of grifters.

As for

• Lindsay Graham
• Mitch McConnell
• Niki Haley
• Marco Rubio
• Ted Cruz

All worthless uniparty establishment chicken hawk politicians who many conservatives detest.

• Tucker Carlson

Well first you will note he was fired by Fox for getting a little too close to the truth. In the past he parroted uniparty establishment pro war narratives. I am ashamed to admit I did too. He defended the WMD's in Iraq narrative, so did I. Watching interviews with him now he has stated he was wrong and that he realized everything he believed in was a lie. I can relate to that. However am I sure he is not just another grifter? Or like his father, a part of a CIA Mockingbird media disinformation campaign? No, I'm not sure on both counts.

• JD Vance

My gut is I don't trust JD Vance. Unfortunately Trump has a history of poorly picking the people around him. I don't know how JD Vance can be suited for the role of Trump's vice president when in the past he was another never trumper. At first glance he stinks of uniparty.

 

[rmgill]

I guess she’s qualified on the Biden Gaff-o-matic. 
 

 

[Rick]

13 hours ago, DKTanker said:

But no other.  Yes, I'm very well aware that is the general sentiment.  What happens when he's no longer The Man?

That depends on the voters. The 2028 elections are a lifetime away as far as politics go.

[Josh]

1 hour ago, Mr King said:

 

So what you're saying is yes, the establishment media machine lies and gaslights people but whatabout the conservative media machine

I’m saying all media lies about their preferred candidate and that conservative media is more consistent in its platform.

 

1 hour ago, Mr King said:

First I would not defend the conservative media machine when its full of gifters and liars. I have said before Fox is at best controlled opposition, so you wont be seeing me defending Fox. The rest of the conservative media machine is largely made of grifters.

As for

• Lindsay Graham
• Mitch McConnell
• Niki Haley
• Marco Rubio
• Ted Cruz

All worthless uniparty establishment chicken hawk politicians who many conservatives detest.

• Tucker Carlson

Well first you will note he was fired by Fox for getting a little too close to the truth. In the past he parroted uniparty establishment pro war narratives. I am ashamed to admit I did too. He defended the WMD's in Iraq narrative, so did I. Watching interviews with him now he has stated he was wrong and that he realized everything he believed in was a lie. I can relate to that. However am I sure he is not just another grifter? Or like his father, a part of a CIA Mockingbird media disinformation campaign? No, I'm not sure on both counts.

• JD Vance

My gut is I don't trust JD Vance. Unfortunately Trump has a history of poorly picking the people around him. I don't know how JD Vance can be suited for the role of Trump's vice president when in the past he was another never trumper. At first glance he stinks of uniparty.

 

“Best People”.

The GOP might win parts of this election, but its insistence on totally uncompromising Trump loyalty will ultimately cause it to fail. Especially as this is the last election for Trump for political, legal, and practical reasons and you yourself throw Vance under the bus. When the MAGA cult loses its leader, it will fragment at the national level just as much as state GOP parties in AZ or PA. Post Trump, the GOP is just a vaguely Christian Nationalist movement with no centralization. All this election decides is whether that total meltdown happens now or in four years.

[rmgill]

Were you this critical of Obama supporters?

[Josh]

41 minutes ago, Rick said:

That depends on the voters. The 2028 elections are a lifetime away as far as politics go.

Isn’t the point that the leftists win and usher in the end times?

failing that, which of the Trump yes men desperately grabbing his coat tails do you think motivates the base when he’s gone?