sunday Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 7 minutes ago, R011 said: Biden is clearly unfit to run. Indeed, he's probably unfit to remain president. Does anyone seriously expect the Democrats to run fifty primaries and caucuses to select a candidate, hold a convention, and run a camp[aign between now and November? No. Not even Ryan. Well, that lack of fitness should have been evident, even for the DNC, months ago. Time enough to run the usual primaries. One could wonder what suddenly happened to trigger Biden's removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, Harold Jones said: A. Why the fuck do you care how the Democrats pick their candidate? Well, they keep saying they're defending democracy as part of their accusations against Trump. So it's an election issue. 3 hours ago, Harold Jones said: B. The nomination belongs to the party to bestow as the party sees fit. Awarding the nomination to whatever mook can convince people (hint barely 10% of party's voters vote in primaries) to show up and vote for them is not even 50 years old. The country did just fine with candidates selected in smokey back rooms up till then. Well, then when it comes to Democracy. They can't wrap themselves in it and claim to be upholding it then can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Ssnake said: Also, the US military wasn't very good at the time and botched the rescue attempt for the hostages in the US embassy. Then, another oil price shock. A nuclear reactor looked as if it might blow up any moment (it didn't, but in public communmications peception is reality. The point I made was that Carter didn't get along with the DC establishment and the DNC especially. He wasn't able to play hardball. I've always thought carter was too nice to be a good politician. He did ok for Georgia I guess as Governor. 2 hours ago, Ssnake said: Bad luck may have been just as important when it comes to judging the merits of Carter's presidency. At least, he brokered a peace deal between Israel and Egypt. That was actually a fine accomplishment. Post Presidency, he was all over the place. He seemed to be doing good, then just showed as weak. See also the decision made in Venezuela and those elections. very weak tea. I've always wanted to like him. When he lost in '80, I was 9, I was most unhappy. I saw him a few times at Emory in the 90-92 time frame. Still, he was weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, R011 said: Biden is clearly unfit to run. Indeed, he's probably unfit to remain president. Does anyone seriously expect the Democrats to run fifty primaries and caucuses to select a candidate, hold a convention, and run a camp[aign between now and November? No. Not even Ryan. Biden was unfit to run months ago when the primaries were had. Their party leadership knew this. Thats the point. They were playing games with democracy. It's an oligarchy of influence with a fig leaf of democracy over the dainty bits. So, I'm over their screaming and wringing their hands about defending our democracy. It's bull crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, sunday said: One could wonder what suddenly happened to trigger Biden's removal. I've seen this movie...hell, I probably technically worked on some of the smoke machines hoping they'd be used for good and not evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 4 hours ago, Harold Jones said: A. Why the fuck do you care how the Democrats pick their candidate? Because wouldn't it be nice if the party that obsesses about democracy wasn't so quick to circular file it when it becomes an inconvenience? Personally I don't understand why BLM is so upset and agitating for a primary. After all, Harris did them a solid in 2020 when she helped raise funds to get their terroristic soldiers out of jail. BTW, are you digging the Kammi? Are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 When a ventriloquist changes out his dummy, the show is still run by the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, rmgill said: Biden was unfit to run months ago when the primaries were had. Their party leadership knew this. Thats the point. They were playing games with democracy. It's an oligarchy of influence with a fig leaf of democracy over the dainty bits. So, I'm over their screaming and wringing their hands about defending our democracy. It's bull crap. Biden decides when Biden leaves the campaign. I think the DNC would have replaced him before the primaries if they could waive a magic wand, but short of Biden making the decision, the only way a different candidate could replace him is if nearly 2000 delegates were faithless at the convention. Republicans keep pitching this as some kind of bait and switch conspiracy when really it’s just Biden acknowledging reality and backing out and the DNC trying to right the sinking ship. If Trump had backed out a month ago, no one on Fox News would have criticized anyone. As it is, Biden’s refusal to move aside earlier has made probably the second worst candidate the nominee, so really I think the GOP should be thankful. Had this happened even a couple months ago I think it would be an open convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 38 minutes ago, Josh said: I think the DNC would have replaced him before the primaries if they could waive a magic wand... ...it’s just Biden acknowledging reality... Last first, exactly what reality did Biden acknowledge? Even tonight he said he was worthy of a second term. First last. The Democratic Party and voters, pretense aside, knew that Biden was suffering the early stages of dementia in 2019-2020 when he started campaigning and hiding out in his basement. You knew, we even had that discussion four years ago, that he was suffering from dementia then and still you/they and worst of all, his family, kept shilling for him telling people to stop believing their lying eyes. Really, is that the best the Democrats have, a drooling idiot and a DEI hire? Finally, the boy shouted out, "The emperor has no clothes" and nobody could then deny the blank vacant vapid unblinking stare Biden was exhibiting during the June 27th debate. You of the left proclaim yourselves as the best and the brightest, and then you proudly put your worst two examples on display for the entire world to mock and deride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, DKTanker said: Last first, exactly what reality did Biden acknowledge? Even tonight he said he was worthy of a second term. First last. The Democratic Party and voters, pretense aside, knew that Biden was suffering the early stages of dementia in 2019-2020 when he started campaigning and hiding out in his basement. You knew, we even had that discussion four years ago, that he was suffering from dementia then and still you/they and worst of all, his family, kept shilling for him telling people to stop believing their lying eyes. Really, is that the best the Democrats have, a drooling idiot and a DEI hire? Finally, the boy shouted out, "The emperor has no clothes" and nobody could then deny the blank vacant vapid unblinking stare Biden was exhibiting during the June 27th debate. You of the left proclaim yourselves as the best and the brightest, and then you proudly put your worst two examples on display for the entire world to mock and deride. I didn’t vote for Biden in the primary; none of this was my idea. But here’s a thought: the Democrats actually ditched their dementia candidate, where as the Republicans fell down and worshipped theirs, even the half dozen or so people that said or implied he was not fit for office (including his VP pick). So the bar is pretty low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 52 minutes ago, Josh said: I didn’t vote for Biden in the primary; none of this was my idea. But here’s a thought: the Democrats actually ditched their dementia candidate, So Biden has Dementia? Is that why he's not running? 52 minutes ago, Josh said: where as the Republicans fell down and worshipped theirs, Trump has Dementia? What do you base that on? We've just seen a video of him driving a golf cart, fiddling with the radio system AND holding a conversation. That seems befuddled to you? Let me repost some from that thread on Twitter. Here he is making an eagle on a Par 4. Can you do that? I can't. That's a strong golf swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stuart Galbraith Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 4 hours ago, rmgill said: So Biden has Dementia? Is that why he's not running? Trump has Dementia? What do you base that on? We've just seen a video of him driving a golf cart, fiddling with the radio system AND holding a conversation. That seems befuddled to you? Let me repost some from that thread on Twitter. Here he is making an eagle on a Par 4. Can you do that? I can't. That's a strong golf swing. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/falling-off-the-cliff-dementia-expert-shows-4-ways-trump-is-exhibiting-shocking-decline/ar-BB1ndHeN "Typical of dementia patients, he repeats himself and overuses superlatives and filler words," Gartner said. "Based on his current accelerating rate of decline, it seems very unlikely that Trump could see out a second term without falling off the cliff and becoming totally incapacitated." Second, Gartner pointed to Trump's failing memory as evidence of cognitive decline. He noted that earlier this year, he mistook former UN ambassador Nikki Haley for former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California), saying "Nikki Haley" was in charge of security at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. He also noted that Trump has, on multiple occasions, confused President Joe Biden with former President Barack Obama on the campaign trail. While Trump's campaign played it off and suggested that Trump was just joking or that Biden was somehow a puppet of Obama, Gartner was not convinced. "The more plausible explanation is that once again we are watching the workings of his demented mind in real time," he said. "Obama and Biden have something very important in common in Trump’s brain that can allow them to be fused in his molten mind: two Democratic presidents who bested and humiliated him have become one imaginary super-villain." The third sign of Trump's dementia is, according to Gartner, Trump's "disordered speech" that he said is typical of "organically impaired dementia patients." He observed that in 2024, Trump has exhibited a pattern of using "non-words in place of real words," like "saying 'mishuz' instead of missile, or 'Chrishus' instead of Christmas." Other examples he listed include "'President U-licious S Grant' (For Ulysses S. Grant), 'space-capsicle' (for space capsule), 'combat infantroopen' (for combat infantry), 'sahhven country' (for sovereign country) [and] 'renoversh' (For renovations)." "As he deteriorates, these deficits will make themselves apparent more and more often. Now he can’t get through a rally without an example," Gartner told Kuo. "Cornell psychologist Harry Segal speculated Trump may be 'sundowning' and hence most vulnerable to going off the rails at night-time rallies." Lastly, Gartner referenced Trump's pattern of poor "motor performance" as another reason for his decline. He pointed out that the former president has "shown deterioration in his fine motor coordination," noting that Trump sometimes "swings his right leg in a semi-circle as if it were dragging a dead weight." He added that he sometimes has "difficulty drinking a bottle or a glass of water without two hands." Early on in the interview, Gartner addressed criticisms that mental health experts were being unprofessional in diagnosing Trump without him personally being a patient of theirs. He argued that "as a professional community, thousands of us have observed hundreds of hours of Trump’s public behavior" and that they "also have dozens of informant reports." "So all the people hyperventilating about 'diagnosing from a distance' should take a breath," he said. "This is more business as usual than you might think. In real life, we’ve institutionalized tens of thousands of patients on far less data." Thing is, if Harris was showing all these features, you all would be all over it, and rightly so. But its Trump, hallowed be his name, whom must not be criticised in any way, so he must be all right. Here is the truth. If Trump dropped out and handed it over to JD Vance, it would be a stonking victory. But that cant be, because Trump is the Kwisatz Haderach, and thats all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 10 hours ago, sunday said: You forget the fall of the Shah, and Carter negative to support him "because of his bad record on human rights". You forget the fall of the Shah was at least as much due to Nixons over enthusiastic arming of him, as an attempted surrogate to avoid large arms expenditure himself. See 'The Nixon Doctrine'. Which worked out less than optimally, it has to be said, both in the Middle East, and in Vietnam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_Doctrine If Ford had got back in, he would have faced all the approbium that Carter did, and his name today would similarly be mud. But its also worth remembering, the arms buildup that Reagan was so proud of, was actually started by Carter. Between that and peace between Israel and Egypt (which he was instrumental in, even locking the door and refusing to let the negotiators leave without signing a deal), if it hadnt been for Eagle Claw and the hostages, he would have had a fine foreign policy record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 11 hours ago, rmgill said: So Biden has Dementia? Is that why he's not running? Trump has Dementia? What do you base that on? We've just seen a video of him driving a golf cart, fiddling with the radio system AND holding a conversation. That seems befuddled to you? Let me repost some from that thread on Twitter. Here he is making an eagle on a Par 4. Can you do that? I can't. That's a strong golf swing. I use “dementia” as an insult/short hand for cognitive decline, not as a medical term (as I am not a medical professional). Both Biden and Trump are in clear cognitive decline regardless of whatever clips you dig up. I’m sure there’s footage of Biden driving his corvette somewhere; that is a low bar. I don’t think swinging a club or the very challenging task of driving a golf cart are especially relevant either. Edited July 25 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Have you ever swung a golf club to hit a ball a long distance? I bet you have not. Why is Biden not running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 (edited) Nice whataboutism Stuart. The doctor hasn’t examined Trump and I think has axe to grind. We are all in mental decline from our peak mental capacity in our 20s. Biden has something seriously wrong. Parkinsons perhaps. But thats implied. You guys have been beating this Trump is too old thing for a while. Look at those two video clips, does he seem impaired there? Edited July 25 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Failure to recall the Goldwater Rule is an unequivocal sign of dementia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Ding ding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Back to Kamala, she’s had articles of impeachment filed against her and expanded. We’ve had a bunch of gas lighting tried by media outlets to say ‘no, she was not the border czar’ when at least in the case of Axios, their own reporting several years ago says exactly that. The Hill https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788663-andy-ogles-impeachment-articles-kamala-harris/ Timcast on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Seen on social media by way of MZW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr King Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, rmgill said: Back to Kamala, she’s had articles of impeachment filed against her and expanded. We’ve had a bunch of gas lighting tried by media outlets to say ‘no, she was not the border czar’ when at least in the case of Axios, their own reporting several years ago says exactly that. The Hill https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788663-andy-ogles-impeachment-articles-kamala-harris/ Timcast on the subject. Great compilation of the media claiming she was never border czar and then showing where the same media announced her appointment to border czar. The only thing the corporate media is capable of at this point is lying and gaslighting in lockstep for the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 I am utterly tired of this gaslighting. I'm about ready to hang something on a building outside of Atlanta's CNN Offices that they should stop lying. Maybe pay a sky writer. OR have a banner plane fly around town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, Mr King said: Great compilation of the media claiming she was never border czar and then showing where the same media announced her appointment to border czar. The only thing the corporate media is capable of at this point is lying and gaslighting in lockstep for the establishment. The guy's name: "Ian Meeler". Very Big Fat Greek Wedding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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