PaulFormerlyinSaudi Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 It is a whole new race. We will all have to redo our calculations. With the right Veep (say Josh Schapiro) it will be a tag team between the prosecutors and the felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Markus Becker said: I read the first states start early voting in less than 60 days. Each in their own way and as of now the ballots have a certain J. Biden on them. The author of the article was wondering if that could be changed in time without bending/changing the existing regulations and laws. Is there anything to it? The Democrats are approaching deadlines very fast? I do not see why ballots would already be printed when Biden was never officially nominated. Perhaps some states jumped the gun, but there is zero legal reason Harris cannot be on the ballot in all states, though I expect Republican lawsuits to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Josh said: I do not see why ballots would already be printed when Biden was never officially nominated. Perhaps some states jumped the gun, but there is zero legal reason Harris cannot be on the ballot in all states, though I expect Republican lawsuits to the contrary. I believe the deadlines in NC, NV, and OH have already passed unless the candidate was to have died. Two have exceptions for medical reasons and the Democrats in the OH Legislature are begging their GOP counterparts to change the law. Every state has laws regarding who is to be included on ballots, who isn't, and the removal / replacement of names. In the name of democracy you would want the states to follow the rule of law, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 10 minutes ago, DKTanker said: I believe the deadlines in NC, NV, and OH have already passed unless the candidate was to have died. Two have exceptions for medical reasons and the Democrats in the OH Legislature are begging their GOP counterparts to change the law. Every state has laws regarding who is to be included on ballots, who isn't, and the removal / replacement of names. In the name of democracy you would want the states to follow the rule of law, wouldn't you? If the democrats are stupid enough to schedule their convention for after state deadlines, then they get what they deserve. AFAIK only Ohio has a deadline that predates the convention, and this was the reasoning for the Dem delegates to have a virtual vote before the convention proper: to meet that deadline ahead of time. In 2020 the Ohio legislature passed a waiver for the year I believe. The Ohio deadline has not yet passed to the best of my knowledge, though it does predate the convention. Note that this would still be an issue even if Biden was still running. I am unaware of any past deadlines in any other states; please provide links if this is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Party Time for the side piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, sunday said: From the grass roots, he said. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Note the use of a Weed Barrier, apparently optional, but you may ask Bernie Sanders about how the DNC considers that optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Megyn bring the fire on the High Priced Call Girl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Wow, convicting an innocent man, she is certainly a Democrat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) That reminds me of a particularly dark and low time of the Roman Catholic Church When Harlots Ruled the Church Quote In the sometimes dark history of the papacy, nothing matches the sheer lurid thuggery of the Pornocracy (904-932), which was marked by scandal, depravity, lust, murder, nepotism, and treachery. Quote (...) But for me, nothing matches the sheer lurid thuggery of a more obscure time: the Pornocracy. Strictly speaking, the term Pornocracy (from Greek meaning “rule of harlots) refers to the years 904-932 when sluttish ladies of the Theophylact family held absolute dominion in Rome. But to savor the full depravity of the era, I will begin earlier to show how the seeds of evil fruit were sown. Sadly, all that evil led to the separation of the Eastern Church in 1054. Quote Long-term papal challenges didn’t begin or end with the Theophylacts. When Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne Emperor of the Romans (800), he unwittingly heightened tensions between Church and State. Did the pope choose emperor or the emperor the pope? Who could depose whom? How much power did the papacy have—or should have? What role did the people and clergy of Rome have in papal elections? Different answers were tested during the following centuries. Anarchy, lay control, and imperial intervention taught the papacy that undisputed temporal power was the only guarantee of its independence. All other centers of power had to be curbed. Thus, conflicts were kindled that would flare and smolder until the loss of the Papal States in 1870. Providentially, the papacy won by losing. Christ’s Kingdom was not of this world; neither should his Vicar’s be. My purpose in writing this essay was to argue that a Church that survived the Age of Lead and Iron can survive whatever horrors our present era inflicts. There’s delicious irony in the favor that Marozia’s worthless son John XI and other Pornocrats showed to the Burgundian abbey of Cluny, wellspring of Church reform for the next two centuries. God does write straight with very, very, crooked lines. Edited July 23 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalkre Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 44 minutes ago, Josh said: If the democrats are stupid enough to schedule their convention for after state deadlines, then they get what they deserve. AFAIK only Ohio has a deadline that predates the convention, and this was the reasoning for the Dem delegates to have a virtual vote before the convention proper: to meet that deadline ahead of time. In 2020 the Ohio legislature passed a waiver for the year I believe. The Ohio deadline has not yet passed to the best of my knowledge, though it does predate the convention. Note that this would still be an issue even if Biden was still running. I am unaware of any past deadlines in any other states; please provide links if this is the case. Concerns over this is why the Ds were going to do that virtual roll-call before the actual convention. Now that Harris has apparently tallied enough delegates to get the nomination it sounds like they'll stick with this plan so she'll officially be the nominee before the convention. That's supposed to take place in... just a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Jones Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, DKTanker said: I believe the deadlines in NC, NV, and OH have already passed unless the candidate was to have died. Two have exceptions for medical reasons and the Democrats in the OH Legislature are begging their GOP counterparts to change the law. Every state has laws regarding who is to be included on ballots, who isn't, and the removal / replacement of names. In the name of democracy you would want the states to follow the rule of law, wouldn't you? https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2020-07/research-ballot-access-president-Jan20_0.pdf It's a bit dated but none of the deadlines have passed. The filing deadline for Ohio in this link is 90 days prior to the election (we are currently 107 days out) but I believe Ohio modified their filing deadline a while back to allow it to be done after the Democrat convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Josh Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, Murph said: Megyn bring the fire on the High Priced Call Girl: I mean, I guess there is the corruption angle, but Trump cheated on his third wife with a porn star and had his first buried on his golf course. Not sure this a road his campaign wants to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 (edited) Are any of those aspects for how Trump was given a job? Or, perhaps in the age of me too, you are copacetic with sleeping your way into a position? Edited July 24 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, Murph said: Party Time for the side piece! He can't get the name of the magazine right nor VP Harris's actual title. That doesn't give me confidence he knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rmgill said: Are any of those aspects for how Trump was given a job? Or, perhaps in the age of me too, you are copacetic with sleeping your way into a position? Trump earned his position by being on a shity reality TV show, so I am not overly concerned, assuming that allegation is true. Are we going to believe every sexual assault allegation against Trump now as well? Because that is a much longer list and a road I do not think his campaign wants to go down either. Edited July 24 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 17 minutes ago, Josh said: I mean, I guess there is the corruption angle, but Trump cheated on his third wife with a porn star and had his first buried on his golf course. Not sure this a road his campaign wants to open. Did the porn star use her influence to hire him for jobs for which he wouldn't be considered otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, R011 said: Did the porn star use her influence to hire him for jobs for which he wouldn't be considered otherwise? I think that was her plan, though I don’t think it worked out that way. i do not particularly like either candidate, but if we want to make it a media throwing contest of allegations, Trump has a much longer list and has been found liable in a civil lawsuit. Again, not sure the sexual favor allegation angle is what I would go for unless the Harris campaign went with sexual misconduct first. Whatever Harris allegedly did was at least consensual. Edited July 24 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 9 minutes ago, Josh said: Trump earned his position by being on a shity reality TV show, so I am not overly concerned, assuming that allegation is true. Are we going to believe every sexual assault allegation against Trump now as well? Because that is a much longer list and a road I do not think his campaign wants to go down either. Ever notice that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff? Nor was I ever a fan of The Apprentice but apparently there were those that were, it ran on and off for 14 seasons. The first time I ever heard or read about Trump was during the 1980s. I believe I heard mention of him on AFN Radio and I know I read some article in the Stars and Stripes. So Trump was in the national public eye well before his reality TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_in_music Name checks in rap and hiphop starting in the late 1980s. Didn't really start the cameo appearance until the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, DKTanker said: Ever notice that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff? Nor was I ever a fan of The Apprentice but apparently there were those that were, it ran on and off for 14 seasons. The first time I ever heard or read about Trump was during the 1980s. I believe I heard mention of him on AFN Radio and I know I read some article in the Stars and Stripes. So Trump was in the national public eye well before his reality TV show. Regardless of how one feels about the show, it is not particularly qualifying material for presidential politics. Most of Abu Ivanka’s businesses went bankrupt outside a small number of buildings; but for his Apprentice job he would probably be both a nobody and hundreds of millions of dollars less well off. As for the allegations against Harris and the allegations against Trump: the first shows bad character and the latter multiple felony rapes. And while neith of us can prove either allegation, Trump has been accused of sexual assault two dozen times, found civilly liable once, is on his third wife, paid off a porn star (even if we assume he didn’t sleep with her), and said on tape that as a celebrity he could sexually assault women when he wanted to. Im going to guess that the Trump camp wants to avoid any campaign ads that are founded purely on allegations. Me personally, I consider sleeping your way to the top a half dozen steps below rape. Edited July 24 by Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, Josh said: Im going to guess that the Trump camp wants to avoid any campaign ads that are founded purely on allegations. I me personally, I consider sleeping your way to the top a half dozen steps below rape. Harris didn't sleep her way to the top. There, I said it. She DEI'd her way to her current position. Or maybe she slept with Clyburn before he and Biden cut their deal. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 3 hours ago, DKTanker said: Ever notice that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff? Nor was I ever a fan of The Apprentice but apparently there were those that were, it ran on and off for 14 seasons. The first time I ever heard or read about Trump was during the 1980s. I believe I heard mention of him on AFN Radio and I know I read some article in the Stars and Stripes. So Trump was in the national public eye well before his reality TV show. The first I can remember hearing of him was when he was the owner of the New Jersey Generals, a USFL franchise in the early '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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