NickM Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Guys, It just popped into my head: how did they handle Brothels in the ME: hookers and soldiers kinda go together for all of history. I don't think they had 'working girls' in the war zone so how did the powers that be handle this? And where did the girls come from? Not 'locals'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Prostitution in Arab countries is a thing, believe it or not. I read that prostitutes happened to be a leading source of intel for Iraqi intelligence when hunting down ISIS cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 20 years ago i worked with an iraqi kurd who had arrived a couple of years earlier, he did tell me about some wild holiday visits to Damascus which involved brothels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 A lot of sex trafficking too, with the family sometimes selling the girls themselves. Many of the girls end up in brothels all over the Middle East. Undercover (Arab) BBC journalist went to Iraq a few years ago and some Shia 'sheikh' offered to organize a 12 year old 'temporary bride' for him, advising that he could do pretty much anything with her except taking her virginity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yama Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 In some places (Iran, IIRC?) sex work is legalized by instant marriages (and subsequent divorces). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Many Syrian women unfortunately ended up working as sex workers in Lebanon when the civil war was at its peak. Middle East isn’t as pure as some folks make it out to be. Hell, prostitution exists in almost every Muslim majority country out there in some shape and form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 what about for the Western Soldiers? I don't think the brass wanted their boys wandering around a 'sin city' in Baghdad or Kabul; Sure the FFL had it's own mobile brothels but...those wymyn were supposedly definitely third rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Bahrain was always the kSA Vegas where you could go drinking and have what happens there stay there as one of the hundreds of various princes or well off oil magnates. I’d be surprised if there was not an illegal but well established prostitution business. when it comes to western soldiers I would expect the opportunity is far and few between given the money limitations and security concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 10 hours ago, NickM said: what about for the Western Soldiers? I don't think the brass wanted their boys wandering around a 'sin city' in Baghdad or Kabul; Sure the FFL had it's own mobile brothels but...those wymyn were supposedly definitely third rate. In WW2? the biggest concern was venereal diseases rather than morality, which leads to the Mobile Brothel concept. Back in the 90s, at Sousse, in Tunis, I can assure you that brothels were quite busy with the local military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Novak Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 12 hours ago, NickM said: what about for the Western Soldiers? I don't think the brass wanted their boys wandering around a 'sin city' in Baghdad or Kabul; Sure the FFL had it's own mobile brothels but...those wymyn were supposedly definitely third rate. Dunno about western troops in Iraq but I read more than decade ago EU study for foreign operations that if you had in mission men to women in ratio 2:1 things will generally sort itself out. However if women ratio is lower there will be problems to deal with. As operations itself it was mentioned in CZ army some conduct about intercourse in foreign missions - sort of rules within our army but also dealing with other allied armies. It was mentiond also that some "normal" things here are not ok with Americans etc. I think this was also reaction to what happened in Kosovo between some czech soldiers and US military woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanoid Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 minutes ago, Pavel Novak said: Dunno about western troops in Iraq but I read more than decade ago EU study for foreign operations that if you had in mission men to women in ratio 2:1 things will generally sort itself out. However if women ratio is lower there will be problems to deal with. As operations itself it was mentioned in CZ army some conduct about intercourse in foreign missions - sort of rules within our army but also dealing with other allied armies. It was mentiond also that some "normal" things here are not ok with Americans etc. I think this was also reaction to what happened in Kosovo between some czech soldiers and US military woman. And what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Novak Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 Writing from memory. I think three ours had group sex with one drunk US girl which did not resisted so it was not rape according to our law but she was not happy after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I heard that a lot of British female soldiers had to be sent home pregnant when we were fighting in Afghanstan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 There is also lots of prostitution by Euro western/eastern girls in Dubai, Bahrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 7 hours ago, RETAC21 said: In WW2? the biggest concern was venereal diseases rather than morality, which leads to the Mobile Brothel concept. Back in the 90s, at Sousse, in Tunis, I can assure you that brothels were quite busy with the local military. But were they Tunisian GIs or Foreign Devils? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 2 hours ago, lucklucky said: There is also lots of prostitution by Euro western/eastern girls in Dubai, Bahrain. Were GIs allowed to take R & R in those nations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 The US Navy was allowed to go ashore there, for sure. Ward Carroll talks about it in one of his novels. Right booze ups they sound too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, TrustMe said: I heard that a lot of British female soldiers had to be sent home pregnant when we were fighting in Afghanstan. Its surprising it doesnt happen more often. I heard in 1990 there was a walled off female and male compound in Saudi Arabia, and the first thing both sides did was figure out how to get into each others compounds. Well, human beings under stress and bored, its entirely understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On 6/3/2024 at 5:01 PM, NickM said: But were they Tunisian GIs or Foreign Devils? Tunisian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 7 hours ago, RETAC21 said: Tunisian Si, no Sin City for outlanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 33 minutes ago, NickM said: Si, no Sin City for outlanders. Well, I am pretty sure one could get "served" but the ambiance wasn't welcoming by any means, and the 2 girls that were with me weren't keen on sticking around too much on the wrong side of the Souk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, RETAC21 said: Well, I am pretty sure one could get "served" but the ambiance wasn't welcoming by any means, and the 2 girls that were with me weren't keen on sticking around too much on the wrong side of the Souk. Get in, get done get out. Dispensing with the booze and massages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, NickM said: Get in, get done get out. Dispensing with the booze and massages Pretty much, I recall a long line of conscripts up to a door with a red light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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X-Files Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 15 + years ago, I was deployed to a USN base. A USCG cutter pulled in and two of their female crew set up an operation at the base hotel. NCIS busted them for Prostitution and other charges within 48 hours. BONUS: I watched one of them drop her shorts and start to piss over the seawall at the All Hands Club on base (we chased her nasty ass off tout suite) and not more than 20 minutes later, this charm school graduate was bent over head first in a 50 gallon drum (turned trash can) puking her guts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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