rohala Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) On 4/19/2024 at 11:59 AM, Perun said: @rohala do you have info on Turkey regarding small arms Not really. I know only some general information. Are you interested in something specific? Edited April 21 by rohala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, rohala said: Not really. I know only some general information. Are you interested in something specific? I sow, on pictures, that they use M1 Thompson but I dont know when did they replaced it Edited April 21 by Perun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rohala Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Perun said: I sow, on pictures, that they use M1 Thompson but I dont know when did they replaced it Unfortunately I don't know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 23 minutes ago, rohala said: Unfortunately I don't know this. Ok mate, thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 https://archive.org/details/jprs-report_jprs-ufm-89-009/page/23/mode/1up Greek air force, page 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Stalin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Turkish Air Force, page 22 (from ZVO October 1988): https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA343580.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Perun Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Turkish ship RV MTA Sismik 1 was escorted by destroyer D353 Adatepe, submarine chaser (TCG) P114 Akhisar and by patrol boat P1221. Source is various internet sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Hellenic Navy 20000 personnel including 12000 conscripts 1. Organization a) General Staff and subordinate Commands | ------- Fleet Headquarters (Salamis-CO: Vice Admiral) | ----- Naval Training Command (CO: Rear Admiral-Skaramangas) | ----- Logistics Command (CO: Rear Admiral - Athens ) | ----- Aegean Sea Naval Command ( Piraeus -covering the entire sea border with Turkey ) | ----- Northern Greece Naval Command ( Thessaloniki - coasts and harbors of Thessaly and Northern Greece ) | ----- Ionian Sea Naval Command (Patras - coasts and harbors of Western Greece ) Note, that in contrast to current practice my sources for 1988 indicate that the 3 naval commands were directly subordinate to the General Staff and not to the Fleet Headquarters. These commands were responsible for maritime surveillance and coastal defense in their area using a network of surveillance facilities and coordinating with local Coast Guard units. b) Fleet Headquarters and subordinate Commands Fleet Headquarters | ----- Destroyer Command (CO: Commodore) | | | --- Destroyer and Frigate Flotillas (CO: Captain) | --------- Fast Attack Craft Command (CO: Captain-commands all | missile, torpedo and patrol boats) | -------- Submarine Command | -------- Landing Ship Command | ------- Mine Warfare Command | --------Naval Helicopter Command Note: the 32nd Marine Brigade is an Army formation and the 353rd Naval Aviation Support Squadron was an Air Force unit but with Naval officers and NCOs as observers c) Naval Training Command and subordinate Commands Naval Training Command | -- Naval Officer Cadet School ( Piraeus ) | -- Underwater Demolition Unit (Skaramangas- with several | Underwater Demolition Teams) | --- Palaskas Training Center (Skaramangas) (recruit and | specialties training) | --- Kanelopoulos Training Center (Skaramangas) (recruit and | specialties training) | --- Sakipis Training Center ( Salamis ) (machinery training) | --- Poros Training Center (Poros) (NCO training) d) Logistics Command and subordinate Commands Logistics Command | --- Salamis Naval Base (main base of the Fleet) | --- Crete Naval Base ( Souda Bay - mainly for repairs) Note: There were also two Naval Stations in Crete and Corfu , as local support facilities, both directly subordinate to the General Staff. 2. Equipment (class in italics, country code indicates design origin of ship originally build for Greece or in Greece , "ex-" indicates ships transferred from other navies) Submarines 4 U209/1200 DE ,4 U209/1100 DE, 1 Guppy III Tench ex-US, 1 Guppy IIA Balao ex-US Frigates: 2 Kortanaer NL Destroyers (all ex-US): 6 Gearing FRAM I, 1 Gearing FRAM II, 1 Allen M. Sumner FRAM II, 4 Fletcher (+4 decomissioned Fletcher in reserve) Destroyer Escorts: 4 Cannon ex-US Missile Boats: 6 Combattante IIIA FR, 4 Combattante III FR, 4 Combattante II FR, 2 Esterel FR (as patrol boats) Torpedo Boats: 6 Jaguar/Seeadler (ex-DE), 4 Tjeld/Nasty NO Coastal Patrol Boats: 3 Panagopoulos/Goulandris class GR Landing Ships and Landing Craft: 1 LSD Cabildo ex-US, 2 Terebonne Parish ex-US LSTs, 3 LST-1 ex-US, 2 LST-511 ex-US, 5 LSM-1 ex-US, 70 landing craft including 8 LCU, 2 LCT, 13 LCM, 34 LCVP, 14 LCP, 7 LCA Minelayers: 2 MMC class (ex LSM-1, ex-US) Minesweepers: 9 MSC-294 Falcon, 5 Adjutant (US, ex-BE) Support Ships: 1 Electronic Warfare Ship (Otter ex-DE), 1 Depot ship Rhein (ex-DE), 2 fleet and 4 coastal oilers, 2 Water Tankers, 1 Ammo Ship and several training, hydrographic ships, support craft and tug boats. ASW Helicopters: 10 Agusta Bell AB 212, 4 Allouette III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Turkish Navy 55000 personnel including 42000 conscripts Note: Since my sources are mainly Greek, the information given here will probably be less accurate and complete 1. Organization a) Subordinate Commands: General Staff ( Ankara ) | |-Fleet Command (Gölcük Naval Base - includes destroyer, | submarine, fast attack craft, mine warfare and helicopter commands) | |-Northern Sea Area Command (Istanbul-probably responsible for the Straits, Black Sea and | fleet repair base) | |- Southern Sea Area Command ( Izmir- probably responsible for Mediterranean ) | |-Naval Training Command ( Istanbul ) b) Naval Bases (list not complete): -Gölcük Naval Base - Mersin naval Base - Iskederun Naval Base - Erekli Naval base Note: In Turkey Marines belong to Navy and at that time there was a Marine Regiment of 3 Btlns and a Amphibious Support Btln Turkish Navy has an air arm; at that time it included two squadrons, see below under "equipment" 2. Equipment (class in italics, country code indicates design origin of ship originally build for Turkey or in Turkey , "ex-" indicates ships transferred from other navies) Submarines 6 U209 DE , 2 Guppy III Balao ex-US, 5 Guppy IIA Balao ex-US, 2 Guppy IIA Tench ex-US, 2 Tang ex-US Frigates: 2 Berk TU, 2 Köln ex-DE, 4 MEKO 200 DE (commissioned 1 mid July 87, 1 early February 88, 1 end July 88, 1 end July 89) Destroyers (all ex-US): 6 Gearing FRAM I, 2 Gearing FRAM II, 2 Carpenter FRAM I, 1 Allen M. Sumner FRAM II, 1 Robert H. Smith, 2 Fletcher (both decommissioned 1987) Missile Boats: 6 Dogan (Lürssen FPB-57, DE), 9 Kartal (modified Jaguar, DE) Torpedo Boats: 5 Jaguar (ex-DE) 7 Coastal Patrol Boats: 2 Asheville ex-US, 6 PC 1638 ex-US, 4 PGM 71 ex-US, 1 Girne (Lazaga ES), 18 various types (incl 11 ex USCG 83-footer cutters) Landing Ships and Landing Craft: 2 Terebonne Parish ex-US LSTs, 2 LST-1 ex-US, 1 LST Cakabey TU, 2 LST Sarukabey TU, 29 LCT, 13 LCU, 20 LCM Minelayers: 1 Falster ex-DK, 6 coastal minelayers (ex LSM-1) Minesweepers: 12 Adjutant MSC-268 and MSC-294 Falcon (9 ex-US, 2 ex-FR, 1 ex-BE) 6 Vegesack ex-DE, 4 Gaspe/Bay ex-CA, 8 YMP ex-US, 4 MCB -MSI Cape ex-US Support Ships: 1 Depot ship Rhein (ex-DE), 6 coastal oilers, 3 Ammo Ships and over 90 training, hydrographic ships, support craft and tug boats. Aircraft: 351 Squadron (Helicopters): 6 Agusta Bell AB 212, 3 AB-204AS, 14 UH-1H (other source indicates 18 AB212 and 3 AB204) 301 Squadron (fixed-wing): 2 S-2A Tracker, 2 TS-2A Tracker, 18 S-2E Tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Perun Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, Darth Stalin said: I have something like this, but need to verify some. Yet it seems to be much more attainable than Turkish OoBs... GREEK AIR FORCE (Polemiki Aeroporia) 1. 110 Pterix (Wing) [PM - Pteriga Mahis] - Lárissa, Greece: a. 337 “Fantasma” (Ghost) Fighter/Bomber Mira (Squadron): 18 (16?) F-4E b. 347 “Perseus” Attack Mira: 18 A-7H 2. 111 Pterix - Néa Anghialos, Greece: a. 341 “Velos” (Arrow) Fighter/Bomber Mira: (18?) F-5A Freedom Fighter b. 349 “Kronos” Fighter/Bomber Mira: (18?) F-5A Freedom Fighter c. 346 “Iason” (Jason) Fighter Mira: (18) F-16C/D (activated in 1990) d. 330 “Keravnos” (Thunderbolt) Fighter Mira: (18) F-16C/D (activated in 1989, operational 04.1990) 3. 113 Pterix - Thessaloniki-Mikra, Greece: a. 343 “Asteri” (Star) Fighter Mira: 23(?) F-5A Freedom Fighter 4. 114 Pterix - Tanagra, Greece: a. 342 “Sparta” All Weather Fighter Mira: 16 (14?) Mirage F-1CG b. 331 “Thisseas” (Theseus) All Weather Fighter Mira: 18 (14?) Mirage 2000EG c. 332 “Geraki” (Hawk) All Weather Fighter Mira: 18 (14?) Mirage 2000EG 5. 115 Pterix - Soúda Bay, Crete Island: a. 340 “Aleppou” (Fox) Attack Mira: 18 A-7H b. 345 “Lailaps” (Hurricane - mythic dog) Attack Mira: 18 A-7H, 5 TA-7H c. 334 “Tálōs” (Thalos, mythic giant) All Weather Fighter Fighter Mira – Heraclion, Greece (Crete): 16 (14?) Mirage F-1CG 6. 116 Pterix - Araxos, Greece: b. 335 “Tigris” (Tiger) Fighter Mira: 18 F-104G -> 1993 to 18 ex-US A-7E c. 336 “Olympos” (Olympus) Fighter Mira: 18 F-104G -> 1993 to 18 ex-US A-7E 7. 117 Pterix - Andravida, Greece: a. 338 “Aris” (Ares) Fighter/Bomber Mira: 18 (16?) F-4E b. 339 “Aias” (Ajax) Fighter/Bomber Mira: 18 (16?) F-4E 8. 350th “NIKE” Group (SAM): 4 x SAM Squadrons, with 9 x Nike-Hercules each HQ: Sedes Air Base, near Thessaloniki (short-runway airfield) - since 2005, after rename as “Guided Missile Wing” locations: (note: The March 1989 Soviet Review of Foreign Military Press says there is one battalion (350th SAM battalion) with 4 batteries of 9 launchers each) Note 1: There were also 3 x “Combat Groups”, operating Forward Air Bases on Aegean islands, ready for relocation of any units from the mainland: · 130th Combat Group, Limnos island · 133th Combat Group, Kasteli Air Base, Crete · 135th Combat Group, Skyros Air Base/Airport, Skyros Island (opened in 1984) Greek air force OOB 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 Does anyone have Nike Hercules firing envelope diagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 17 hours ago, Perun said: Does anyone have Nike Hercules firing envelope diagram TM 9-1400-250-10/2 https://archive.org/download/Nike-Hercules-Rocket-Technical-Manuals/TM9-1400-250-10-2_text.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mykola Saichuk Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 On 5/20/2024 at 4:06 AM, Perun said: Turkish ship RV MTA Sismik 1 was escorted by destroyer D353 Adatepe, submarine chaser (TCG) P114 Akhisar and by patrol boat P1221. Source is various internet sites Take it. This photograph of the Sismik was taken from aboard a Soviet reconnaissance ship (from my archiv). The report for the photograph contains the coordinates of the rendezvous location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted June 29 Author Share Posted June 29 18 hours ago, Mykola Saichuk said: Take it. This photograph of the Sismik was taken from aboard a Soviet reconnaissance ship (from my archiv). The report for the photograph contains the coordinates of the rendezvous location. Thanks mate. Can you past the coordinates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykola Saichuk Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) On 6/29/2024 at 6:17 AM, Perun said: Thanks mate. Can you past the coordinates The rendezvous coordinates can be found on the reverse side of the photograph. Each Turkish ship was assigned a unique envelope to store its photographs, with new ones being added periodically. Should a ship undergo modernization, a detailed account of all external modifications would be affixed to its updated photograph. Edited June 30 by Mykola Saichuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 (edited) @Mykola Saichuk Mate, thanks for the info 🙂 Do you know or do you have confirmation wich Turkish and Greek ships were involved Edited July 1 by Perun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 GREEK FORCES IN THE AEGEAN https://archive.org/details/cia-readingroom-document-cia-rdp86t00608r000700230005-6/mode/1up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 DTIC ADA420541: Amphibious and Special Operations in the Aegean Sea 1943-1945. Operational Effectiveness and Strategic Implications https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA420541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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