sunday Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 There is a timeline to get the port open, about 4 weeks
sunday Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 Chief engineer view of what could happen in MV Dali to leave she without power
Ivanhoe Posted April 8, 2024 Posted April 8, 2024 https://nypost.com/2024/04/07/us-news/massive-container-ship-loses-power-near-nycs-verrazzano-bridge-days-after-baltimore-key-bridge-disaster/ Quote A massive container ship lost propulsion power in the waters around New York City and was brought to a rest near the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge Friday night — less than two weeks after failure on another massive cargo vessel caused it to smash into Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge. The US Coast Guard confirmed that its Vessel Traffic Service received a report that the 89,000-ton M/V APL Qingdao lost propulsion about 8:30 p.m. as it traversed Kill Van Kull waterway — the shipping lane between Staten Island and Bayonne, New Jersey. An image shared on X by John Konrad, CEO of maritime-focused news outlet gCaptain, shows the 1,100-foot APL Qingdao floating uncomfortably close to the span that connects Brooklyn and Staten Island. BREAKING: A NY tugboat captain has reported to @gCaptain “container ship APL QINGDAO lost power while transiting New York harbor. They had 3 escort tugs but 3 more were needed to bring her under control. They regained power & were brought to anchor near the verrazano bridge” pic.twitter.com/Z2IP04xmLs — John Ʌ Konrad V (@johnkonrad) April 7, 2024 In response to the power failure, three tug boats that were escorting the APL Qingdao guided the vessel until it regained propulsion a short time later. How's that saying go? Once is chance, twice is coincidence, ... I did stumble across mention of a big difference between the two bridges. The VNB has built-up islands around its towers, so less likely that a runaway ship would drop a tower. The other thing about the VNB situation is that there were tugs on duty, and more came to help.
Ssnake Posted April 8, 2024 Posted April 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: How's that saying go? Once is chance, twice is coincidence, ... Or, it happens more often than you believe, and now each of these incidents gets reported with a high profile what was before reported only in the Sunday Shipping Safety Gazette.
Murph Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 Well darn the Federal Bureau of Incompetence has finally decided that this MIGHT be a criminal act. Took them long enough, but they were probably too busy attempting to entrap people on the right.
Ivanhoe Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 30 minutes ago, Murph said: Well darn the Federal Bureau of Incompetence has finally decided that this MIGHT be a criminal act. Took them long enough, but they were probably too busy attempting to entrap people on the right. Somebody probably mentioned that the MV Dali trespassed into Congress on 06JAN.
Murph Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 THATS IT! It is a J6 protestor! No wonder they are getting involved!
sunday Posted May 8, 2024 Author Posted May 8, 2024 They are going to use explosives to cut loose a part of the bridge that currently rests on the ship.
DB Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 Be interesting to see how much the ship bounces when that weight comes off.
sunday Posted May 10, 2024 Author Posted May 10, 2024 24 minutes ago, DB said: Be interesting to see how much the ship bounces when that weight comes off. Or not, if the hull is breached...
RETAC21 Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 59 minutes ago, DB said: Be interesting to see how much the ship bounces when that weight comes off. The ship is grounded, so not likely to rise much
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 I do hope they have ensured she is lightly loaded....
Ssnake Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 Unloading, I think, can commence only after the bridge has been removed. You don't really want to, literally, rock the boat while there's heavy but shiftable loads resting on it. They may have removed containers with dangerous chemicals, but probably not much else.
sunday Posted May 10, 2024 Author Posted May 10, 2024 35 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Unloading, I think, can commence only after the bridge has been removed. You don't really want to, literally, rock the boat while there's heavy but shiftable loads resting on it. They may have removed containers with dangerous chemicals, but probably not much else. They have removed about a hundred containers in the forward section already, but some of those were empty, others damaged.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 2 hours ago, Ssnake said: Unloading, I think, can commence only after the bridge has been removed. You don't really want to, literally, rock the boat while there's heavy but shiftable loads resting on it. They may have removed containers with dangerous chemicals, but probably not much else.
rmgill Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 4 hours ago, RETAC21 said: The ship is grounded, so not likely to rise much Taking weight OFF a grounded ship tends to let it rise, not sink. Assuming it's not flooded down. /MrPicky
sunday Posted May 14, 2024 Author Posted May 14, 2024 They blew part of the (road) bridge on top of MS Dolly. Explosions and aftermath.
rmgill Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) Huh, those 20' Hamberg Sud containers seem to be more robust.... Edited May 14, 2024 by rmgill
sunday Posted May 14, 2024 Author Posted May 14, 2024 A thought for the resilience of that traffic cone, please.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Pity they didnt build the bridge out the same stuff they made the traffic cones out of.
DB Posted May 15, 2024 Posted May 15, 2024 Preliminary NSTB report was released soon after the last of the construction workers' bodies was recovered. I haven't read the report myself, but there are summaries from various youtubers. You can get it here: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA24MM031.aspx (link to report is after the summary)
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