Catastrophe in Baltimore

[rmgill]

You don't say? 

[sunday]

Could be interesting, will watch it when I have time.

An interesting comment

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I experienced a similar situation on a 300K ton tanker doing maneuvering speed and got a black out , even 4 tugs had a hard job to stop this tanker it took 1 nm, its a big mas to stop. This container ship has a 9 cyl MAN 56+k bhp when these engine stops due to blackout to start it in reverse needs a lot of compressed air, mind you the prop is pushing the rotation still in the wrong way and when started has a lot of propwash. In general fuel change is done when the so called outside tonning is reached,so I do not expect this was done, the heavy smoke can be as the engine had to go from stop to full throttle, possibly dubble rings on the telegraph to 110 revs. But the black data box will tell what happened so better not to assume,( ass You and Me) anything.

 

Edited March 27, 2024 by sunday

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Steven P Allen]

I heard a report that the ship's owners declared bankruptcy within hours of the wreck.  If so, I'll bet they crawled in a hole and pulled it in after them.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Interestingly the same ship had a collision with the Dock at Antwerp some 8 years ago. I idly have to wonder how well she was repaired in the aftermath.

https://www.vesselfinder.com/news/6675-VIDEO-Mega-container-ship-Dali-Allided-with-berth-at-Port-of-Antwerp

[Sardaukar]

Considering I only know Baltimore from series The Wire and crime news...city seems to keep on giving on so many levels nowadays... 😎

[rmgill]

 

[sunday]

Update

 

[Ivanhoe]

I saw some mention of fuel quality issues on the Intertoob, but now I can't find it.

 

[BansheeOne]

On another board, a commercial mariner suggested that ultra-low sulfur fuels, particularly the heavy blends, are to blame for an increasing trend of engine parts seizing up.

[rmgill]

I guess I'll have to dump a quart of cheap motor oil in the tank of the M35 ever time I fill up. that or gear oil with sulfur HP additives. 

Edited March 28, 2024 by rmgill

[Stuart Galbraith]

20 hours ago, Sardaukar said:

Considering I only know Baltimore from series The Wire and crime news...city seems to keep on giving on so many levels nowadays... 😎

Someobody was quoting a scene from The Wire, with the bridge in the background, and 2 characters saying 'we are like this bridge, we will be here forever!'

Supposedly they got plugged by the end of the 2nd series...

[Leo Niehorster]

Ukraine take note!
Kerch Stait Bridge, anyone?

[Roman Alymov]

1 hour ago, Leo Niehorster said:

Ukraine take note!
Kerch Stait Bridge, anyone?

There is a rumor that ship's Capitan was Russian (citizen of Ukraine named Sergey), so it is only a question of time it will be named "Putin's attack on US infrastructure"

[Harold Jones]

1 minute ago, Roman Alymov said:

There is a rumor that ship's Capitan was Russian (citizen of Ukraine named Sergey), so it is only a question of time it will be named "Putin's attack on US infrastructure"

Putin is so far off the radar of the average American that he won't even make the top 100 conspiracies.  I know this forum can give the impression that the US is deeply invested in the idea of Putin as a super villain or the root of all evil in the world but most people barely spare him a thought. 

[X-Files]

32 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

There is a rumor that ship's Capitan was Russian (citizen of Ukraine named Sergey), so it is only a question of time it will be named "Putin's attack on US infrastructure"

That was outdated information on a shipping website and was subsequently removed (or *scrubbed* by the CIA/Mossad/FSB/grey aliens).  Some Russian journalist had floated the link with a '?' kinda dangling comment.

 

Need the URLs or have I been around long enough for y'all to take my word for it?  🍿

[bojan]

6 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Someobody was quoting a scene from The Wire, with the bridge in the background, and 2 characters saying 'we are like this bridge, we will be here forever!'

Supposedly they got plugged by the end of the 2nd series...

None said it in the Wire, but it is strangely appropriate.

S2 of Wire was about downfall of of working class and unions, and is IMO best one, through some parts of other seasons give it a run for a money and overall series is one of the best ever made.

Edited March 28, 2024 by bojan

[Roman Alymov]

35 minutes ago, Harold Jones said:

Putin is so far off the radar of the average American that he won't even make the top 100 conspiracies.  I know this forum can give the impression that the US is deeply invested in the idea of Putin as a super villain or the root of all evil in the world but most people barely spare him a thought. 

No need for URLs, it is just a rumour (or even if it was true - it was nothing but a curious fact). Anyway, disproportionate share of giant Soviet merciant fleet was assigned to Black Sea and when USSR collapsed - a lot of sailors were abandoned in what became independent Ukraine, so now there are "Ukrainians" in next to every ship crew.

[Ivanhoe]

Purportedly the crew was all Indian (the Desi kind, not the Harvard professor kind).

 

[Stargrunt6]

Some thoughts from a professional. The comments are a goldmine.

 

https://youtu.be/gPnSkKSogsE?si=Q2KTT3WwpYelHknr

[Stargrunt6]

3 hours ago, bojan said:

None said it in the Wire, but it is strangely appropriate.

S2 of Wire was about downfall of of working class and unions, and is IMO best one, through some parts of other seasons give it a run for a money and overall series is one of the best ever made.

You, sir, are an outlier. Most Wire fand aren't wild about it, but they miss the point. 

I do like season 2, it's fascinating and it shows a different side of the American city.

[rmgill]

5 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

Purportedly the crew was all Indian (the Desi kind, not the Harvard professor kind).

 

Dot, not feather. 

[bojan]

7 hours ago, Stargrunt6 said:

You, sir, are an outlier. Most Wire fand aren't wild about it, but they miss the point. 

Maybe most fans never had a contact with a blue collar workers and have never seen what post-industrial devastation does to the societies?  Most of my childhood friends parents were blue collar workers and whole story hit me pretty hard.

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I do like season 2, it's fascinating and it shows a different side of the American city.

As in the rest of series it is also a great show of how "best ideas" lead to a really shitty outcomes.

Edited March 28, 2024 by bojan

[Stuart Galbraith]

20 hours ago, bojan said:

None said it in the Wire, but it is strangely appropriate.

S2 of Wire was about downfall of of working class and unions, and is IMO best one, through some parts of other seasons give it a run for a money and overall series is one of the best ever made.

Ah, thank you for clarifying that.Maybe It was a little too accurate to be true. Ive still not got around to watching it.

[Ssnake]

13 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ah, thank you for clarifying that.Maybe It was a little too accurate to be true. Ive still not got around to watching it.

I'd put it among the top three best TV shows ever made. Not a feel-good show, though. But it changed the way I'm looking at certain societal problems, which alone makes it exceptional. The writers really knew what they were taling about, and they knew how to spin a good yarn, with fine actors.