sunday Posted March 26 Posted March 26 https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/112160888697845440 Quote A ship just collided with Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore. Whole thing collapsed. Cars, people, and everything in the water. Lord, have mercy. I hope the late hour will mean minimal casualties, but that does not look good.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 26 Posted March 26 CNN claims that the fire department is looking for 7 vehicles that fell in the water. Im guessing steering failure. They sure as hell cant blame visibility problems.
BansheeOne Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Well they reportedly had two pilots aboard, so you'd hope everyone wasn't asleep on the ship's bridge. Or someone's ass will be toast. Not sure whether we crossed that bridge in the 2015 and 2016 I&Is. Eery.
Ssnake Posted March 26 Posted March 26 A minute or two before the collisions lights go out on the ship.
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Ssnake said: A minute or two before the collisions lights go out on the ship. It happened twice.
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 Loss of steering because of electrical problems is my uninformed guess.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) So if anyone wants to look it up on Shipfinder, the vessels name is the Dali. https://shipfinder.co/ship/563004200 Built in South Korea apparently. Wonder if its the same yard that build 'Evergreen'? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/us/dali-ship-baltimore-bridge.html Edited March 26 by Stuart Galbraith
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 26 Posted March 26 https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9697428
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 (edited) Now, an informed guess Interesting comment: Quote Ship lost all controls, tugs were already cut loose. Ships aren't required to have escorts through the bridge. Pilot called and had bridge traffic halted, tugs couldn't get back to the ship in time once all controls were lost. All correct and immediate protocols were taken, just an extremely catastrophic unfortunate event.That's from someone that works for McAllister towing on the water out of Baltimore Informed analysis Edited March 26 by sunday
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rmgill said: Traffic was stopped? That is what a commenter on that video wrote. Edited March 26 by sunday
rmgill Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I still saw trucks moving across right as the ship was striking the pier.
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 Yes, perhaps those were moving slowly, after traffic was stopped behind them.
DB Posted March 26 Posted March 26 4 hours ago, sunday said: Yes, perhaps those were moving slowly, after traffic was stopped behind them. The BBC version of the video shows the ship lights going out when there are two trucks crossing (it also shows yellow strobes from the construction vehicles). If the lights going out was the point where the controls were lost and the trigger for an emergency call, then there would be some delay between that call and any bridge closure warning. There is a gap in the footage, but it looks like those crossing trucks are clear of the affected spans when the ship hits. Not so for the construction vehicles, unfortunately - you can see the strobes falling with the spans.
rmgill Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Apparently there was a road crew on the bridge working on the pavement. 6 are missing. 2 more were found in the water and rescued.
Steven P Allen Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Their survival is remarkable in this temps, especially after having had a bridge fall literally down around their ears.
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 It is fortunate that there were so few people in the bridge, thank God.
Roman Alymov Posted March 26 Posted March 26 My condolences. Seems like anti-collision "islands" similar to ones near Kerch bridge could have saved few lives (but not sure it will work against such a massive ship).
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said: My condolences. Seems like anti-collision "islands" similar to ones near Kerch bridge could have saved few lives (but not sure it will work against such a massive ship). Do not think so, but such a ship would not have been able to cross under the Kerch bridge. Here is a recently (opened in 2015) built bridge in Spain, in Cadis, that has a slightly longer middle span than the Francis Scott Key bridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Constitución_de_1812_Bridge#/media/File:Puentecadiz2.svg It has four fenders protecting the exposed pile, and a detachable section to allow the transit of large ships, or marine wind turbines, going into or out of the shipyards. I do not know what are the specifications of those fenders, but I could imagine a 95,000MT ship destroying that pile in spite of the fenders. Edited March 26 by sunday
sunday Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 (edited) A professional engineer (civil) has his saying: Also, that same ship had a fender bender with a dock in Antwerp a few years ago. Edited March 26 by sunday
TrustMe Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Some news reports are saying that the cargo ship lost power and couldn't stop from hitting the bridge.
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