It is not a conspiracy theory if it is proven right.

[sunday]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

So you think Biden is an excellent president and that criticism amounts to derangement? 

Of course!

Any Very Smart Person should be able to understand that Afghanistan was a brilliant victory, that the US Armed Forces are in the best shape ever, that the Ukraine War is going nicely, with the Ukrainian Army constantly defeating the Russian Hordes and going to take Moscow soon, that the US economy has never been in a better state, that US electoral systems are best in the world, that Boeing airplanes are the most safe in the world, that there is no immigration problem whatsoever, that big, beautiful cities like San Francisco, Portland, Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago are flourishing like in the 1950s, and that Hollywood has never made so many successful, wholesome, family-friendly entertainment in its long history.

That is only for starters.

Nobody would want to not be considered a Very Smart Person, would not they?

Edited January 25, 2024 by sunday

[Skywalkre]

5 minutes ago, sunday said:

Of course!

Any Very Smart Person should be able to understand that Afghanistan was a brilliant victory, that the US Armed Forces are in the best shape ever, that the Ukraine War is going nicely, with the Ukrainian Army constantly defeating the Russian Hordes and going to take Moscow soon, that the US economy has never been in a better state, that US electoral systems are best in the world, that Boeing airplanes are the most safe in the world, that there is no immigration problem whatsoever, that big, beautiful cities like San Francisco, Portland, Baltimore, Detroit or Chicago are flourishing like in the 1950s, and that Hollywood has never made so many successful, wholesome, family-friendly entertainment in its long history.

That is only for starters.

Nobody would want to not be considered a Very Smart Person, would not they?

Aaaaand exhibit #2 reinforcing BansheeOne's point.  🤣

[Josh]

2 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

The hilarious thing is the idea that there are "left" posters here. 🤣

I suppose he’s referring to anyone anti Trump. I think Brian and I are the only US posters who actually vote Democrat, and I suspect he is registered independent like me.

Edited January 25, 2024 by Josh

[rmgill]

3 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

The fact that that's your response says so much about you (and basically reinforces his point).

Its called asking for clarification of what seems like a nebulous set of observations and assertions. 

[Josh]

 

21 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Its called asking for clarification of what seems like a nebulous set of observations and assertions. 

Let's review the entire exchange again rmgill:


BansheeOne:

"I tend to be tongue-in-cheek about the "empidemology" of Current President Derangement Syndrome, but unfortunately the observed symptoms are real: projection, loss of perception, context, argumentative skills and vocabulary, increasingly repetitive articulation in a limited number of phrases, or just through copy-pasted texts, clips and memes, ironically often accusing opponents of being incapable of original thought (see projection), posted in random discussions or even threads without context (see loss of). It doesn't only occur on the Right of course; that's just what you get on TankNet because it skews that way."

rmgill:
"So you think Biden is an excellent president and that criticism amounts to derangement? "

 

BansheeOne discussed various instances of Derangement Syndrome and their symptoms, along with a timeline of when it seemed to take hold on tanknet (not included in the above quote). You turned it into a discussion of Biden's tenure as president. You don't see the disconnect there? That your post had essentially nothing to do with Banshee's comment? He did not mention a single president by name nor did he pass judgement on any political outlook, and you immediately interpreted as some kind of Biden endorsement. You did not address any of the ideas of his post in any way.

Edited January 25, 2024 by Josh

[rmgill]

On 1/24/2024 at 2:15 PM, Skywalkre said:

The two quotes Tim is referencing (though he fucks up the one the guy makes) come at the beginning and end of the audio tape.  They're both laughing when they make those comments because... they're said in jest, which is pretty clear from listening to the audio.  What Tim ignores (again, I could only give his garbage a few mins of listening) is another part in the middle of the tape when both Lake and the guy are talking seriously and they both state they don't think these 'benefactors' actually would hurt anyone.

And, yet again, you're blind or have terrible google skills, Murph (which is a crazy thing to say because all you have to do is type 'Kari Lake' into google), because this story is everywhere.  You know what else is fascinating... none of these stories (be it national MSM or local outlets and talk radio) mention the bit about assassination... BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SERIOUS THING FROM THE AUDIO CLIP. 

 

Hmm. So the GOP chair has resigned over this. 

I'm trying to decide if Skywalkre has a good sense of eventualities and evidence of a potential crime or at least wrong doing in this compared to say a law enforcement officer who's had actual convictions based on his evidence gathering. 


Edit, Tim's airing of this is 2 days ago (https://player.fm/series/timcast-irl-2918025/timcast-irl-945-audio-leaked-of-gop-trying-to-bribe-kari-lake-fears-assassination-wderrick-evans). The 23rd. CNN's story is on the 24th. 

This isn't from google fu, it's from looking at CNN's Politics page and searching there. Were I still there, I could tell you when the CMS Actually had the first stories of the subject at all. 

Even joking about assassination when it comes to bribery on this scale should be serious. 

Edited January 25, 2024 by rmgill

[Josh]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

Even joking about assassination when it comes to bribery on this scale should be serious. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/trump-milley-execution-incitement-violence/675435/

 

[rmgill]

Ok, so Trump is unfiltered and uncouth. Yes we know. Is this just humor then in the case of the attempt to bribe Lake? I think not. 

I think Razorfist has a good view on this. 
 

 

[Josh]

5 hours ago, rmgill said:

Ok, so Trump is unfiltered and uncouth. Yes we know. Is this just humor then in the case of the attempt to bribe Lake? I think not. 

I think Razorfist has a good view on this. 
 

 

You stated: "Even joking about assassination when it comes to bribery on this scale should be serious. "

And I replied with the former president saying a general should be put to death. I didn't even bring up the fact that he let his rioters hunt down his own Vice President.

You can move the goal posts as much as you want, but Trump is an unconstitutional piece of shit any way you cut it.

 

[Murph]

The left will continue to deny, lie, and obfuscate, but thank goodness the internet allows the left media complex to not control everything!  As for Skywalkre,  just ignore him, he got his orders from the DNC like a good NPC.

[rmgill]

6 hours ago, Josh said:

You stated: "Even joking about assassination when it comes to bribery on this scale should be serious. "

And I replied with the former president saying a general should be put to death. I didn't even bring up the fact that he let his rioters hunt down his own Vice President.

You can move the goal posts as much as you want, but Trump is an unconstitutional piece of shit any way you cut it.

 

Ok, so when is Biden going to be arrested for making terroristic threats during the campaign? 

You're conflating two things. The bribery attempt IS a serious matter. A value of millions is certainly the sort of thing people might kill over if it's connected with suppressing a senator's election. 

 

[BansheeOne]

Just in case anyone isn't getting the generalized CPDS reference ...

[Der Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, Murph said:

 As for Skywalkre,  just ignore him, he got his orders from the DNC like a good NPC.

I'd rather ignore you, but unfortunately we're not allowed.

[Josh]

Yes, I noticed that many years ago. It was actually one of the things that made me quite the forum for a while.

Edited January 26, 2024 by Josh

[Murph]

17 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

I'd rather ignore you, but unfortunately we're not allowed.

Well maybe we can fix that.

[Der Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Murph said:

Well maybe we can fix that.

Thanks, I would appreciate that.

[sunday]

I feel the pain of @Murph, wanted to being ignored by the most Very Smart Person in the whole forum...

Edited January 27, 2024 by sunday

[Murph]

 

[Skywalkre]

On 1/25/2024 at 4:26 PM, rmgill said:

Hmm. So the GOP chair has resigned over this. 

I'm trying to decide if Skywalkre has a good sense of eventualities and evidence of a potential crime or at least wrong doing in this compared to say a law enforcement officer who's had actual convictions based on his evidence gathering.

Murph claimed he listened to the full audio yet somehow missed the two comments about being killed were clearly said in jest... and also missed how both people talking clearly stated they didn't think the folks offering the bribe were dangerous (there's also the fact that if she truly felt she was in danger... wouldn't that take up more than a few seconds in a clip that's over 10m long?).  The fact he's a retired cop doesn't change what was actually said on the tape.  It's funny how you keep pointing to his credentials as if they justify the BS he spews as suddenly legit.

No one's arguing they weren't clearly trying to bribe Lake... all I pointed out was how fucking ridiculous Tim's claims were in the opening of his video that assassination was a possibility coupled to Murph just running with it (I'd still wager he didn't listen to the tape... and just can't bring himself to admit it since I pointed out he was wrong).

Edited January 29, 2024 by Skywalkre

[Skywalkre]

On 1/26/2024 at 9:41 AM, Murph said:

The left will continue to deny, lie, and obfuscate, but thank goodness the internet allows the left media complex to not control everything!  As for Skywalkre,  just ignore him, he got his orders from the DNC like a good NPC.

[DB]

On 1/25/2024 at 6:51 PM, Skywalkre said:

The fact that that's your response says so much about you (and basically reinforces his point).

Means he didn't read the last sentence or two, or chose to ignore them so he could make his two-state-only logic fit. He's not stupid, so I assume the deliberate course - for many this is a debating society where the only purpose is to "win", not to learn, hence the condescending use of Socratic questions and thus the perpetual avoidance of answering questions that might cause a reflection on his own beliefs.

After all, if you're never wrong, then why reflect?

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Murph claimed he listened to the full audio yet somehow missed the two comments about being killed were clearly said in jest...

You interpret them as clearly. 

I don't. Other people don't. 

 

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

and also missed how both people talking clearly stated they didn't think the folks offering the bribe were dangerous (there's also the fact that if she truly felt she was in danger... wouldn't that take up more than a few seconds in a clip that's over 10m long?).  The fact he's a retired cop doesn't change what was actually said on the tape.  It's funny how you keep pointing to his credentials as if they justify the BS he spews as suddenly legit.

You've heard of whistling past the graveyard? 

They're willing to pay Millions. People murder over less. 

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

No one's arguing they weren't clearly trying to bribe Lake... all I pointed out was how fucking ridiculous Tim's claims were in the opening of his video that assassination was a possibility coupled to Murph just running with it (I'd still wager he didn't listen to the tape... and just can't bring himself to admit it since I pointed out he was wrong).

How many murders have you dealt with Skywalkre? 

[Der Zeitgeist]

[Stuart Galbraith]

 its all very well taking on election monitors. Trump taking on Taylor Swift is like Hitler taking on the Soviet Union.

 

[BansheeOne]

Oh, you have no idea.

Quote

Is There A Taylor Swift Psyop?

BY TYLER DURDEN

TUESDAY, JAN 30, 2024 - 04:01 PM

Welcome to the matrix. 

The current news cycle gives the impression that Taylor Swift is everywhere. 

According to Bloomberg data, corporate media headlines featuring "Taylor Swift" began ramping up in the first half of 2023 and hit new record highs later in the year.

The singer, who has made an entire career whining about having chosen the wrong men, has been pitched by legacy media as finally finding the "perfect match": Kansas City Chiefs Travis Kelce. 

The relationship doesn't pass the sniff test, given Taylor's terrible choices with men. 

Let's begin with Michael Benz, a former Trump admin State Department official whose work has been cited in congressional hearings, posted on X a video from 2019 featuring the Pentagon's psychological operations research arm that pitched the idea of turning Taylor into an asset to combat "disinformation." 

We're not alone. Fox News' Jesse Watters also asked: "Why is Taylor Swift Everywhere?" 

Perhaps it's not by chance that the story count in corporate media for Taylor has exponentially exploded, averaging above 1,000 per day since late September. 

Taylor's surge comes as legacy corporate media is terrified about the rise of alternative media. Wall Street Journal Chief Emma Tucker warned WEF elites at Davos this month: "We no longer own the news." 

[...]

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/there-taylor-swift-psyop