2024 Obituary

[NickM]

1 hour ago, urbanoid said:

 

His username is Greek 

Northern Baron

[urbanoid]

Consistency is sometimes an overrated virtue.

[urbanoid]

One of my favourite musicians passed away at the age of 28. RIP Sayuri.

 

[TonyE]

Dame Maggie Smith at age 89 (1934-2024)

 

[DKTanker]

Kris Kristofferson (1936-2024), Singer, songwriter, actor, age 88.  For those from beyond North America, Kristofferson is the writer that penned "Me and Bobby McGee" which Janis Joplin would later record as her biggest hit.

[Stuart Galbraith]

'Thats a big 10-4, Rubber Duck signing off.'

[TrustMe]

He was good in the Blade films.

R.I.P.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Yeah, I forgot those. He and Wesley Snipes bounced well off each other.

[LT Ducky]

Kristofferson was also Ranger qualified and a rotary wing pilot in the U.S. Army 

[Stuart Galbraith]

Yes, I just learned he was a helicopter pilot for off shore oil rigs at one time. He was selected for a place at West point, but turned it down. Supposedly his choice of a music career over a military one did not go down well with his family. Although Id say, it sorta worked out.

'Keep the change Bob.'

 

[NickM]

Christopher Shores, one of THE GREAT military aviation historians especially WW2 military aviation, and one of my favorite authors:

 

https://grubstreet.co.uk/2024/10/christopher-shores/

 

 

It is the passing of the first hand witnesses to WW2 and authors like Shores that makes me wonder about the future of military history writing.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2024 by NickM

[lucklucky]

Indeed.  RIP.

[R011]

James Earl Carter aged 100…

[17thfabn]

25 minutes ago, R011 said:

James Earl Carter aged 100…

A little respect. I had to Google who you were referring to. He was always referred to as Jimmy Carter.

Former U.S. President James "Jimmy" Carter has died at age 100. 

His most notable achievement as president was the peace treaty between Egypt & Israel. Despite political upheavals in Egypt this treaty has held for 45 years.

He was awarded the 2002 Nobel Peace prize. I had always thought he got that prize much closer to the 1979 Egypt Israel treaty.

After the presidency he was involved with habitat for humanity and other charity work.

[DKTanker]

Any mention in the news about Carter helping to usher in and legitimize the transformation of Venezuela into a communist state?  How about how he bribed Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat to accept the Camp David agreement on the back of US tax payers?

[sunday]

We will see how History treat him, but perhaps he is among the foremost example that good intentions could produce very unwanted results. Some people could find that very sad.

[Mr King]

Carter also freed the perpetrators of an actual terror attack on the capitol

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting

[Stuart Galbraith]

7 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Any mention in the news about Carter helping to usher in and legitimize the transformation of Venezuela into a communist state?  How about how he bribed Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat to accept the Camp David agreement on the back of US tax payers?

Considering how much it was costing you in arms to save Israel every time it was attacked, you probably got the best out of that deal.

[DKTanker]

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Considering how much it was costing you in arms to save Israel every time it was attacked, you probably got the best out of that deal.

Purposely missing the point?  The point being Carter is/was thought of as some kind of diplomatic hero that convinced Egypt and Israel to play nice forever after.  Turns out that isn't such a difficult feat when you're using treasure from the party of the 3rd part to bribe the parties of the 1st and 2nd part to play nice.

Which brings up an interesting idea.  Perhaps Ursula von der Leyen can bribe Russia and Ukraine to play nicely forever after.  I'm sure you could get behind that initiative, it would let UK off the hook entirely.

[Stuart Galbraith]

3 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Purposely missing the point?  The point being Carter is/was thought of as some kind of diplomatic hero that convinced Egypt and Israel to play nice forever after.  Turns out that isn't such a difficult feat when you're using treasure from the party of the 3rd part to bribe the parties of the 1st and 2nd part to play nice.

Which brings up an interesting idea.  Perhaps Ursula von der Leyen can bribe Russia and Ukraine to play nicely forever after.  I'm sure you could get behind that initiative, it would let UK off the hook entirely.

If you think that lasting peace isnt something worth forking out for one way or another, I think you are the one missing the point here.

 

[Ivanhoe]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/3271979/when-jimmy-carter-proved-he-was-no-saint/
 

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In late August of 1980, Carter’s Cabinet and campaign began launching a series of attacks characterizing Ronald Reagan as a racist. They began when Patricia Roberts Harris, Carter’s Secretary of Health and Human Services, delivered a hard-hitting speech saying that if Reagan became president he would “divide black and white, rich and poor, Christian and Jew.” Harris capped off her polarizing diatribe saying that whenever she heard Reagan speak she “sees the specter of white sheets.” It was a clear allusion to the Ku Klux Klan.

This was just the start, however.

Harris’ attack was soon echoed by Andrew Young, formerly Carter’s Ambassador to the United Nations, who also attempted to link Reagan to the KKK. To reinforce the attacks the Carter/Mondale Reelection Committee placed ads in Black media charging that Reagan wanted to block progress for Blacks. An ad in the Washington Afro-American newspaper bore a banner headline proclaiming that “Jimmy Carter named 37 Black Judges” and “Cracked down on job bias.” The tag line read “That’s why the Republicans are out to beat him.”

 

IMHO, Carter was a scumbag in choirboy clothes. The DNC and the press sanctified him, but his record is his record.

https://observer.com/2014/08/the-moral-disintegration-of-jimmy-carter/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2002/10/carterpalooza-jay-nordlinger-2/
 

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Carter has long enjoyed a reputation as a Middle East sage, owing, of course, to his role in the original Camp David accords. That reputation, however, rests on shaky grounds. Truth is, Sadat and Begin had their deal worked out before ever approaching Washington. And the facilitators they used were far from saintly Southern Baptists: They used the dreadful King of Morocco and the even more dreadful Ceausescu of Romania! When they had their plan essentially worked out, however, they called the White House (whose occupant just happened to be J.C.) (initials not accidental, he and his most fervent admirers have seemed to think for years).

Why did they contact the White House? Prof. Bernard Lewis put it succinctly to Charlie Rose recently: “Well, obviously, they needed someone to pay the bill, and who but the United States could fulfill that function?”

 

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No one quite realizes just how passionately anti-Israel Carter is. William Safire has reported that Cyrus Vance acknowledged that, if he had had a second term, Carter would have sold Israel down the river. In the 1990s, Carter became quite close to Yasser Arafat. After the Gulf War, Saudi Arabia was mad at Arafat, because the PLO chief had sided with Saddam Hussein. So Arafat asked Carter to fly to Riyadh to smooth things over with the princes and restore Saudi funding to him — which Carter did.

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If you are sickened by the thought of a former U.S. president and a former First Lady of the United States and the career terrorist Yasser Arafat all sitting around bashing Ronald Reagan . . . you and I think alike.

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Although he does view Arafat as a democratically elected leader: The 1996 elections in the P.A., he writes, were “democratic,” “open,” “fair,” and “well organized” (they were well organized, all right). Needless to say, those elections were like any other in the Arab world, which is to say, rigged from beginning to end. I hope you all enjoyed former CIA director Jim Woolsey’s quip to Joel Mowbray, writing on NRO last week: “Arafat was essentially ‘elected’ the same way Stalin was, but not nearly as democratically as Hitler, who at least had actual opponents.” Arafat’s “opponent” was a prop.

It would be wise to bury Carter, not praise him.

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While in office, Carter hailed Yugoslavia’s Tito as “a man who believes in human rights.” He said of Romania’s barbaric Ceausescu and himself, “Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and politics . . . We believe in enhancing human rights.”

Its been written that Carter never met a LW dictator he did not like.

[Murph]

15 hours ago, Mr King said:

Carter also freed the perpetrators of an actual terror attack on the capitol

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting

New information is coming out that Carter also sold the Shah down the river, bullied Begin over Sinai, and was just a complete moron willing to sell out allies left and right.  

https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/12/29/its-too-bad-that-jimmy-carter-didnt-live-even-longer-n4935516

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/12/30/carter-hagiographers-are-100-wrong-n3798331

[R011]

His carefully staged photo ops, though, did a good job of putting Habitat for Humanity on the map and fundraising for them.  YMMV if that offsets his performance as an unofficial diplomat, his failure as a President, or atones for his support of segregation when it was politically popular to do so.

[Steven P Allen]

Other than Habitat for Humanity, many of the causes he championed post-Presidency were reprehensible.

[Ivanhoe]

I haven't yet read anything that explains his support of "austere religious scholars" in Iran. The fact that the Shah was a friend to Israel, and the mullahs wanted to exterminate Jews, probably explains it.

https://x.com/CynicalPublius/status/1873793972193144953