sunday Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, lucklucky said: What does that have got to do with the subject? Are you even incapable of discerning what the idiot is saying in last paragraph? Your country and mine are also favourable to killing babies because they are an inconvenience so even worse on account than above and Judaism is no monolith religion or culture there are many Jews against abortion. There are also atheists against abortion. This bit "Anti-abortion laws are not about freedom of religion, they are about enforcing certain religious beliefs on everyone else."? Same could be said about abortion laws, and other "religious beliefs"/"secular beliefs". That man has an agenda. I am against violence against innocent people, regardless of who they are, and against superfluous violence against non-innocent people, again regardless of who they are.
Strannik Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) No comment Edited October 7, 2023 by Strannik
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Yes, but what is he saying? Occupation.
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Never give your enemy a problem. Give them a dilemma. Problems can be solved, but in a dilemma there's always something to lose. Hamas gave Israel a dilemma. Does Israel go in to retrieve the hostages and risk having them killed in the process? Does Israel allow Hamas to take Israel hostage and make tough demands in exchange for those people?
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Strannik said: No comment They're stripped to search for weapons. Their throats won't be slashed. They won't be raped. They won't be beaten beyond necessity. They will be tried and put in prison for several decades via a proper justice system.
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Strannik said: No comment Maybe he should post the photos of Israelis there were killed and not captured?
Strannik Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, lucklucky said: Maybe he should post the photos of Israelis there were killed and not captured? I think that anybody who keeps tabs on this conflict for the last 10-15 yrs knows how each side treats the other. And Israelis have been no angels either. The only difference now that Pals managed to capture significant numbers. Edited October 7, 2023 by Strannik
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 So Israel captures Palestinians civilians to ask for ransom? Maybe it should since you are putting them at same level. And lets send rocket artillery indiscriminately in Gaza.
Strannik Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, lucklucky said: So Israel captures Palestinians civilians to ask for ransom? Maybe it should since you are putting them at same level. And lets send rocket artillery indiscriminately in Gaza. Trolling? No they kill teens and reporters for kicks.
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 True colours shown. You know very well that teens do combat.
Strannik Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, lucklucky said: True colours shown. You know very well that teens do combat. I am not even talking about stone throwers - there were multiple ( as in dozens) cases of gratuitous murder. And your opinion of me is very valuable, so continue to troll.
BAMF Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Strannik said: Trolling? No they kill teens and reporters for kicks. You are as worthless as the savages you pine for. Palestinians are irrelevant useless grifters. The only thing better than a dead Russian is a dead Hamas sub-human. Even other Arabs care little about the nasty trolls that are Palestinians.
crazyinsane105 Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, Strannik said: Trophy is MIA Seems like none of the tanks were even operational or turned on. Hence the Palis are destroying them rather than letting them fall into the hands of the Israelis.
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Strannik said: I am not even talking about stone throwers - there were multiple ( as in dozens) cases of gratuitous murder. And your opinion of me is very valuable, so continue to troll. Dozens so not thousands? any army there are murderers, there were crimes made by allied armies or any army , but what you don't talk is the Policy of Murder by Palestinians. Worse you don't care about Palestinians want to appear to you show care, if you did you would have asked that Hamas gives them same protection that Israel government gives to Israelis.
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said: It was a comfortable shield, indeed a bit of Maginot Line, that also stopped French HQ thinking of modern warfare. Iron Dome also saved thousands of Palestinians lives. Still do not explain the multiple failures of intel and border defence. Edited October 7, 2023 by lucklucky
crazyinsane105 Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) Level of casualties on Israelis is unprecedented. I don’t think the Israelis suffered this many killed in a single day since 1973 https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1710757449672913000 https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1710752925218160681?s=20 Edited October 7, 2023 by crazyinsane105
crazyinsane105 Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said: I don’t buy this. Iron Dome worked perfectly fine a few years back when the Palestinians fired thousands of rockets, many of them also aimed at Tel Aviv.
Strannik Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, lucklucky said: Dozens so not thousands? any army there are murderers, there were crimes made by allied armies or any army , but what you don't talk is the Policy of Murder by Palestinians. Worse you don't care about Palestinians want to appear to you show care, if you did you would have asked that Hamas gives them same protection that Israel government gives to Israelis. Israel is an occupier. And they literally conduct ethnic cleansing. Done with you troll.
Roman Alymov Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Strannik said: Nahal Commander is KIA. Seems like spmebody in Gaza have red Sergey Anisimov's books....
sunday Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, crazyinsane105 said: Level of casualties on Israelis is unprecedented. I don’t think the Israelis suffered this many killed in a single day since 1973 https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1710757449672913000 https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1710752925218160681?s=20 Definitively, this is not good.
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 We talked real stuff, now let's talk emotions. For the Israeli public, this is the equivalent of what Americans felt during 9/11. I was too young to truly understand in real time, but for a tragedy of that magnitude I had to ask around when old enough to sympathize and I was astounded by the level of despair, helplessness, and rage, primarily caused by the thought "How could this happen?" This is the same mix of emotions Israelis feel right now. Streets are empty. Nobody smiles. Reporters teary eyed. People glued to the TV and internet for the next new report. It's true that Israelis are deeply divided due to Netanyahu's political tactics, but there is also a fair amount of unity on this issue. In 2002 the IDF launched an operation in Jenin primarily driven by public outrage over the massive amount of casualties caused during the intifada. But unlike the intifada, in which over 1,000 Israelis were murdered over 5 years but as of now there are 250 confirmed dead and dozens kidnapped, and I estimate we'll verify hundreds more in the coming days. The action Israelis demand is unprecedentedly violent, including the most dovish ones. Unfortunately, it appears to the public that the army is acting too slow, too late, too little.
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2023 Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Strannik said: Israel is an occupier. And they literally conduct ethnic cleansing. Done with you troll. There are no Israelis living in Gaza but there are Palestinians living in Israel peacefully. That shows it is the Palestinians that make the ethnic cleansing.
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