Authoritarian and Totalitarian Democracies

[urbanoid]

4 minutes ago, rmgill said:

From what I can see, he probably feels like NO part of the UK is worth defending. 

If it goes any further, I might have to see if we can scratch up an invasion force of the Kitsap County Library Militia and we can go take the Isle of Anglesey. Use it as a jumping off point to seize Man for the twisty roads and other points where coal and copper mines are at.  then move in on one of the disused industrial cities, eject the socialist worker class and hire out of work Americans to run the mines and build ships. 


Who's in? 
🙃

Where can I invest?

[old_goat]

Africa's biggest problem is severe overpopulation. They do nothing but breed, breed, and breed. (Lots of islamic states are struggling with the same problem, but not to the same extent.) The biggest aid Africa should get is gigatons of contraceptives. Until our dear politicians realize this (and I fear this will never come), anything else is futile. The supply of migrants will be endless. 

Edited June 20, 2024 by old_goat

[rmgill]

4 minutes ago, old_goat said:

Africa's biggest problem is severe overpopulation. They do nothing but breed, breed, and breed. (Lots of islamic states are struggling with the same problem, but not to the same extent.) The biggest aid Africa should get is gigatons of contraceptives. Until our dear politicians realize this (and I fear this will never come), anything else is futile. The supply of migrants will be endless. 

I would disagree. Issues with population only matter if there's a complete outstripping of resources. 

Africa's problems are theft of property, lack of return on investments because they're stolen, corruption and education. 


Stop stealing returns on investments (whether by government or criminals) boost up the education, get the corruption under control and it'll sort itself out. 

But so long as you have socialists and/or Tribalists padding their own clan's nests, you'll never get past the problems. 

[sunday]

13 minutes ago, old_goat said:

Africa's biggest problem is severe overpopulation. They do nothing but breed, breed, and breed. (Lots of islamic states are struggling with the same problem, but not to the same extent.) The biggest aid Africa should get is gigatons of contraceptives. Until our dear politicians realize this (and I fear this will never come), anything else is futile. The supply of migrants will be endless. 

Africa is quite empty

[old_goat]

29 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Africa's problems are theft of property, lack of return on investments because they're stolen, corruption and education. 

Yes it is also true, but to be honest, I think this would be even harder to fix.

[old_goat]

25 minutes ago, sunday said:

Africa is quite empty

Ok, yes, but look at this:

Meanwhile, the largest increase in global population growth in the next 30 years will come from the African continent. Its contribution to this increase will be 51% from 2021 to 2035, and already 63% from 2021 to 2050. From 2035 to 2050, Africa’s share in the increase in the population of our planet will already be 76%. In other words, the center of world demographic growth has already shifted to a large extent towards Africa, where the population growth rate currently remains the highest in the world at over 2.5% per year. If current trends continue, the proportion of Africa in the world’s population will be 21% in 2035 and 26% in 2050, compared to 7% in 1820 and 6% in 1900.

These are terrifying numbers...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10037377/

Edited June 20, 2024 by old_goat

[rmgill]

As you increase standards of living and education you see a comparable drop in birth rates without having to manifest any veneer's of forcing birth rates down by force. 


This has been demonstrated across the globe. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1034075/fertility-rate-world-continents-1950-2020/

[Ssnake]

1 hour ago, old_goat said:

If current trends continue

Been reading a lot of Ehrlich, lately?

That hack has never been right about anything outside the field of butterflies.

[Ivanhoe]

10 hours ago, rmgill said:

I would disagree. Issues with population only matter if there's a complete outstripping of resources. 

Africa's problems are theft of property, lack of return on investments because they're stolen, corruption and education. 


Stop stealing returns on investments (whether by government or criminals) boost up the education, get the corruption under control and it'll sort itself out. 

But so long as you have socialists and/or Tribalists padding their own clan's nests, you'll never get past the problems. 

 

Baseline value systems are the #1 problem. Problems downstream of values include:

- ethnic hatred and violence

- plutocracies

- corruption

etc.

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

12 hours ago, rmgill said:

From what I can see, he probably feels like NO part of the UK is worth defending. 

If it goes any further, I might have to see if we can scratch up an invasion force of the Kitsap County Library Militia and we can go take the Isle of Anglesey. Use it as a jumping off point to seize Man for the twisty roads and other points where coal and copper mines are at.  then move in on one of the disused industrial cities, eject the socialist worker class and hire out of work Americans to run the mines and build ships. 


Who's in? 
🙃

Coming from the cheese eating surrender monkey that thinks defending Democracy is beneath Americans, this post is dripping with unintended Irony.

Besides you wouldnt get past the first pub, and even then would still whine the beer isnt cold enough, or American enough or Republican enough.

Get off your high horse Ryan, you are sure to fall off and break your neck.

Edited June 21, 2024 by Stuart Galbraith

[Stuart Galbraith]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

 

Baseline value systems are the #1 problem. Problems downstream of values include:

- ethnic hatred and violence

- plutocracies

- corruption

etc.

 

Niall Fergusson has suggested that as far as India, Britain got out too slowly, and as far as Africa, we got out too quickly. The problem with that theory is that the French have only just been kicked out of Africa now (at Russian encouragement) and its their parts are just as disfunctional as the bits we gave independence in the 1960's.

Its a cultural problem. They reject our way of doing things because that is the way we do things, then come here, because we are stunning successs compared to their dysfunctional states.

I dont know how you turn that around, but until we figure out some way of pushing them in a direction that  is halfway functional, the migration crisis will never end, and it doesnt matter a damn how many we keep sending back, because they keep coming back.

[Stuart Galbraith]

12 hours ago, old_goat said:

Africa's biggest problem is severe overpopulation. They do nothing but breed, breed, and breed. (Lots of islamic states are struggling with the same problem, but not to the same extent.) The biggest aid Africa should get is gigatons of contraceptives. Until our dear politicians realize this (and I fear this will never come), anything else is futile. The supply of migrants will be endless. 

I was just thinking of a movie about this problem. Not that im advocating the solution (because in the movie it doesnt work anyway), but its interesting to see how many concerns it predicted.

 

[urbanoid]

So fascist!

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

And then they say 'Are you willing to pay more taxes to make it happen', and they get the answer 'hell no!'

Though I suppose they could get official sponsorship. They could get funding from Disney, and get everyone to dress up in mickey mouse ears, and have the guards dressed as Imperial Stormtroopers.

[urbanoid]

I'm sure that they totally can't make it with a trillion dollars 'printed' every 3 months or so.

[Ivanhoe]

Redirect the tax monies used to support illegal immigrants to deport immigrants.

 

[Ivanhoe]

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/06/mexican-cartel-travel-agencies-selling-15000-packages-to-illegal-aliens-for-help-to-cross-border/

Allow illegal immigration, fund the cartels.

Ironic that people who are aghast at America's gun culture have no problem funding Murder, Inc.

 

[rmgill]

8 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Coming from the cheese eating surrender monkey that thinks defending Democracy

What democracy are you defending again? With your platoons of infantry in soft caps? 

The UK didn't even defend democracy for it's own 7.5 million citizens in Hong Kong. 

Do go on. 

8 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Besides you wouldnt get past the first pub, and even then would still whine the beer isnt cold enough, or American enough or Republican enough.

Naah. We'd bring our own refrigerators. Or Ice. See, we'd put in more electric power. Because we'd be using more than just solar and wind. And we'd tell the local council to get stuffed.  

8 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Get off your high horse Ryan, you are sure to fall off and break your neck.

Sorry. It's a High Humber. Not a horse. 

[rmgill]

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

And then they say 'Are you willing to pay more taxes to make it happen', and they get the answer 'hell no!'

You can pay benefits on going.

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

OR you can pay the people you already pay for law enfrocement plus a few extra to process and deport illegal immigrants. 
 

[seahawk]

Or you can secure your borders.

[rmgill]

Madness. How would anyone do that?!  Doing so is racist. Never mind the tax implications. 
 

ooh. The Conservatives need to levy a $500 tax on every immigrant. Then they'll want to control their border to account for every one. Of course they’ll make it as quick as buying a bottle of booze. So bad idea. Never mind. 

[lucklucky]

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/06/22/moore-v-united-states-joe-biden-thinks-he-can-tax-gains-in-the-value-of-your-house-when-you-have-not-yet-sold-it/

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This means that the government could tax increases in the value of your house or apartment; in your IRA retirement savings account; or in any other stocks that you happen to own even without you selling any of those items. Until this week, no prior Supreme Court Justice has, to my knowledge, taken any position as radical as Justice Jackson's view that all cases that arise under the Taxation Clause or the Sixteenth Amendment always raise a political question.

 

[Mr King]

More details on the Jan 6th pipe bomb plot

 

 

[sunday]

Fined over facts?

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A member of Germany’s right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party has had her conviction for incitement to hatred upheld on appeal, after using official statistics to warn that Afghan immigrants are disproportionately liable to commit sexual violence against women and girls.  

The crime committed by Rotenburg AfD leader Marie-Thérèse Kaiser was to respond publicly to news that Afghan migrant workers would be relocated to Hamburg by citing figures which she claims show Afghani males are disproportionately involved in the perpetration of serious sexual offences in Germany.  

The Federal Interior Minister, SDP's Nancy Faeser, proposing Stasi-like measures:

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One such measure is to freeze the bank accounts of those found to have donated money to any group the government declares to be “far-right.”

“No one who donates to a right-wing extremist party should remain undetected,” she explained, adding: “Those who mock the state must deal with a strong state.”

 

[NickM]

10 hours ago, Mr King said:

More details on the Jan 6th pipe bomb plot

 

 

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