Because Democrat Voter Fraud

[Detonable]

On 10/1/2023 at 3:36 PM, Skywalkre said:

It's cute how you keep clinging to this fallacy. 

If the 2020 election was stolen you'd have all kinds of other evidence out there, though.  Remember all the various claims made after the '20 election?  The supposed 'scoops' of vids showing illegal activity?  Yeah... all that stuff turned out to be inbred morons misinterpreting or not even understanding how normal election processes happen and nothing was found.

It's not like all the talk after '20 was "there could be fraud" but rather "look, here's evidence there was fraud!"  Except... all that 'evidence' turned out to be nothing.  Leads and accusations were investigated all over the country and nothing was there.

Get over it already.

Two Democrats Charged With Election Fraud (msn.com)

[Murph]

Ignore it, they have their indoctrination, and NPC status.  For them Denial is the river in Egypt.  To them, Democrats are nothing but high minded statesmen and Republicans are venal traitors attempting to enslave BIPOC and Alphabet people.

[Skywalkre]

15 hours ago, Detonable said:

Two Democrats Charged With Election Fraud (msn.com)

First, nothing in that story has anything to do nor lend any credit to Trump's notion of a stolen election (which is what my comments you quoted are referring to... are you taking after Murph and just not bothering to read what you're responding to?).

Second, no one ever said there was zero fraud out there.  Just no evidence of a widespread effort that would lend credence to Trump's notion (that he still clings to without a lick of evidence) that the election in '20 was stolen from him.

Keep trying... 🙄

[Detonable]

 There was widespread, public evidence that signatures on mail in ballots would not be checked or verified, because the Democrats said so in person.

[Skywalkre]

Feel free to elaborate.  If there was evidence of wrongdoing in places like AZ and GA than you would have prosecutions.  If there was actual evidence than these challenges by the Trump team would have gone somewhere in their court challenges... instead we saw none of any of the above.  Googling your statement just gets multiple pages referencing false claims made by the MAGA crowd so... call me skeptical your statement is remotely accurate. 

[glenn239]

11 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Feel free to elaborate.  If there was evidence of wrongdoing in places like AZ and GA than you would have prosecutions. 

Has anyone been convicted of mail in ballot fraud?  Not just in the US, but anywhere in the West?

Edited November 2, 2023 by glenn239

[BansheeOne]

Yeah, I once listed some local cases on the German politics thread.

[Skywalkre]

Yeah... there are a few cases after every election here in AZ.  Usually it's family voting on behalf of a dead relative (from what I remember usually Rs 😛 ).

[Mikel2]

https://ctexaminer.com/2023/11/01/court-overturns-ganim-win-in-bridgeport-primary-calling-evidence-of-fraud-shocking/?fbclid=IwAR3D8Ah5EOBeM0ujoa0_KLP-edj65z5IZh3E_9huJJuY-CDUnT31x25UUQk

Edited November 2, 2023 by Mikel2

[Josh]

5 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Has anyone been convicted of mail in ballot fraud?  Not just in the US, but anywhere in the West?

A quick google search turns up a list from Heritage Foundation. It is only 273 cases deep across the entire US and goes back to the late 80's; I didn't bother to read the context but it probably has what you're looking for.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?combine&state=All&year&case_type=All&fraud_type=24489

 

[Josh]

2 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Yeah... there are a few cases after every election here in AZ.  Usually it's family voting on behalf of a dead relative (from what I remember usually Rs 😛 ).

IMO, the only convictions I've heard of are of this type, and Republican, and there were like three of them in GA, FL, and AZ. There are however a few dozen or more pending cases in Florida that are almost all convicts who registered to vote but were found to have had crimes that precluded them being re-enfranchised. But the state registered them anyway, so they presumed they could vote.

[Murph]

AND yet again, ANOTHER Democrat committing voter fraud:   https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/breaking-springfield-democrat-mayoral-candidate-justin-hurst-accused/

[Murph]

https://pjmedia.com/athena-thorne/2023/11/02/ballot-box-stuffing-victory-judge-orders-do-over-in-bridgeport-ct-n4923549

Judge orders do over after DEMOCRAT fraud.  

[Murph]

CNN Self Own on the "Most Secure Election in History".  Catches a ballot box being stuffed....

 

 

[rmgill]

 

[JWB]

In related news:

 

[Ivanhoe]

5 hours ago, Murph said:

CNN Self Own on the "Most Secure Election in History".  Catches a ballot box being stuffed....

 

 

She's a bit underdressed for professional ballot-stuffing, IMHO. 

[Murph]

And of  course no law enforcement will ever look into this.

 

[Skywalkre]

On 11/4/2023 at 7:50 AM, Murph said:

And of  course no law enforcement will ever look into this.

 

Looks like hell froze over.  You may have actually posted something that may show wrongdoing.  As the old saying goes - a broken clock is right twice a day.

Couple things to remember.  First, no one ever said there wasn't fraud.  Historically it's just been at low levels and there's no proof of widespread fraud that would have changed the outcome.  Second, GA rejected over a thousand mail-in ballots so if there was wrongdoing here there's a good chance these were tossed.

[Skywalkre]

On 11/3/2023 at 7:01 AM, Murph said:

CNN Self Own on the "Most Secure Election in History".  Catches a ballot box being stuffed....

 

 

Searching for this clip seems to indicate it was from OH.  In OH it was legal in '20 for someone to deposit mail-in ballots for family members.  The woman has a variety of envelopes so it seems only a small number are actually ballots.  It's very likely she's just turning in ballots (and mail) for her family.

That film '2000 Mules' featured similar misleading claims of ballot stuffing which was ultimately not the case and misrepresented legal activity (which is why it didn't lead to any charges... some authorities did look at what was shown and found nothing).  You might want to spend a little bit of time looking into whether or not what you're claiming is even illegal in the purported vids and locales where they take place.

Gotta give you props on at least posting something that's... real (as in real people in a real clip)... and not a (terrible) attempt at being a fake.  You're making progress, Murph.  We're all so proud of you.

[rmgill]

32 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

Couple things to remember.  First, no one ever said there wasn't fraud.  Historically it's just been at low levels and there's no proof of widespread fraud that would have changed the outcome.  Second, GA rejected over a thousand mail-in ballots so if there was wrongdoing here there's a good chance these were tossed.

If you never look for the fraud and the fraud cases take 2-4 years to work out then there will NEVER be enough fraud to affect the election. Even when it's VERY close. 

 

[Murph]

Do you notice how suddenly his tone has changed from There was never any fraud, It was the most perfect election ever, too well, there was a little fraud. Typical liberal moving the goalposts.

[sunday]

Saw a meme-joke yesterday: One difference between Biden and Hitler is that Hitler was elected.

[BansheeOne]

And as usual for such meme-jokes, both parts are wrong. 😋

[Markus Becker]

14 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Couple things to remember.  First, no one ever said there wasn't fraud.  Historically it's just been at low levels and there's no proof of widespread fraud that would have changed the outcome.  Second, GA rejected over a thousand mail-in ballots so if there was wrongdoing here there's a good chance these were tossed.

You have very nattow margins nowadays, don't you? So even a rather small action could tip the balance.