Because Democrat Voter Fraud

[Tim Sielbeck]

41 minutes ago, Josh said:

If we assume you are right (hah!), how do you think the Republicans lost every institution in America? What do you think caused that? Certainly a large percentage of the federal law enforcement part of the government has traditionally been right wing - at what point did the GOP lose everything everywhere all at once?

It didn't happen all at once.  It has been a steady progression over at least a century.

[Josh]

21 minutes ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

It didn't happen all at once.  It has been a steady progression over at least a century.

To what do you attribute this progression?

[Tim Sielbeck]

44 minutes ago, Josh said:

To what do you attribute this progression?

Ignorance and apathy.

[Ivanhoe]

7 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

Ignorance and apathy.

And moral cowardice. 

 

[Tim the Tank Nut]

I'm hesitant to wade into these threads because no one is going to change anyone's mind and that makes it a colossal waste if time but:

If anyone is of the opinion that the FBI doesn't have a bias then the observer isn't paying attention.  In many circles of law enforcement the view of the FBI is poor.

[Tim Sielbeck]

13 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

And moral cowardice. 

 

That too.

[Murph]

This:  https://www.newsmax.com/politics/georgia-absentee-ballots-state-farm-arena/2020/12/05/id/1000207/

 

What does it take to get through to the NPCs that there was voter fraud?

 

 

[Murph]

[Murph]

Holy Sh*t! This is big, fraud might, maybe, somehow, possibly be exposed in Arizona:

https://www.westernjournal.com/election-integrity-win-arizona-court-rules-states-unlawful-signature-matching-process/

[Murph]

[sunday]

2 hours ago, Murph said:

This:  https://www.newsmax.com/politics/georgia-absentee-ballots-state-farm-arena/2020/12/05/id/1000207/

 

What does it take to get through to the NPCs that there was voter fraud?

When a person has arrived to a position or stance without using reason, it is impossible to make him change his position or stance by the use of reason only.

Or, you could not reason out someone of a position he was not reasoned in.

1 minute ago, Murph said:

Holy Sh*t! This is big, fraud might, maybe, somehow, possibly be exposed in Arizona:

https://www.westernjournal.com/election-integrity-win-arizona-court-rules-states-unlawful-signature-matching-process/

Our man in Arizona has stated several times Arizona has best electoral system in the world and fraud is impossible.

[Murph]

Well NPCs are going to NPC, and once they have been told what the narrative is by their masters, the slaves will never change their minds.  

[rmgill]

9 hours ago, sunday said:

Our man in Arizona has stated several times Arizona has best electoral system in the world and fraud is impossible.

He's told ME it's impossible. When I've seen how a dead neighbor voted, how my mother's voter registration as valid for 3 election cycles after her death AND how there were oddities with the flooding stopping the vote counting in the building right next to where I was on the night of the election. Which was odd, because I saw NOTHING indicating flooding, let alone any city water works folks. Mind you, I've seen what that looks like. But the later reports were that it was a leaky toilet or something.  Yeah, we evacuate buildings because of leaky toilets. 

[sunday]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

He's told ME it's impossible. When I've seen how a dead neighbor voted, how my mother's voter registration as valid for 3 election cycles after her death AND how there were oddities with the flooding stopping the vote counting in the building right next to where I was on the night of the election. Which was odd, because I saw NOTHING indicating flooding, let alone any city water works folks. Mind you, I've seen what that looks like. But the later reports were that it was a leaky toilet or something.  Yeah, we evacuate buildings because of leaky toilets. 

So it is not only Arizona. Georgia has also the very best electoral system in the world.

[Murph]

Yeah, right, and they allowed the fraud to happen, and Bill Barr, the unethical, corrupt former AG (who needs to be in prison for stopping investigations of vote fraud) allowed it to happen.  

[CarnelianClout]

There is no possible way Fraud didn't happen in 2020. Biden is a fraudulent and illegal president.

[Murph]

Completely agree, but they HAD to get rid of Trump, he was a danger to their plans.

[Skywalkre]

On 9/2/2023 at 7:11 AM, Murph said:

Reeeeeeee, Reeeeeee NO! I cannot listen it violates the NARRATIVE!  Reeeeeeee!

I am shocked, SHOCKED, that the best response you can come up with is on par with an adolescent.  This coming from the guy who in the last few weeks has:

- posted a photoshopped Atlantic headline and passed it off as real (and then didn't have the decency to own up to it after the fact)
- posted a clip from Reno 911! and passed it off as real
- implied the Obamas having something to do with the death of their chef and that the whole thing was suspicious when local police clearly explained what happened and that it was an unfortunate accident
- basically misrepresenting every headline you post (if the headline is remotely reputable to begin with)

Why should anything you post be taken seriously?

To the original point raised in the quote the notion that Ds are somehow pushing for a one-party system in this country is comical.  This is based on... what exactly?  As mentioned no other R candidate for POTUS has had any issues.  Rs have had no issue at state and local levels.  That one politician, Trump, has run into legal trouble for doing things that experts had predicted would likely lead to charges (that's what we knew about... then the document case broke and that's even more solid of a case) doesn't mean the Ds are like Nazis or old-school Soviets.  To make such a statement is just... embarrassing,  Or, rather, it should be.  Rs seem to have shame these days.  The last few years have made me feel dirty for blindly voting for them in my youth.

[glenn239]

8 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

 

To the original point raised in the quote the notion that Ds are somehow pushing for a one-party system in this country is comical.  This is based on... what exactly?  

It's based on the attempts to put Trump in prison I think, or at least ban him from the ballot in as many states as possible, then replace him on the ballot with an establishment Romney type.  Attempting to invoke the 14th when no one has been convicted of insurrection is, you would admit, pretty far fetched.

Edited September 12, 2023 by glenn239

[Skywalkre]

On 9/5/2023 at 9:20 AM, Murph said:

Problem is that they DO own those groups, just open your eyes.  Watch how they treat an R vs a D.

Murph, of all people you really shouldn't lean on "open your eyes" as evidence considering the things you've missed and posted about on here over the last few weeks.

So with that being said... where's the solid evidence?  A quick search of this page on wiki shows Fed official convictions going back a while.  Looking over the number going back through Clinton's tenure (about as far bask as I remember anything) you have 27 Rs and 19 Ds being convicted.

A problem with the Rs is they've become a party of Karens.  Just because everything doesn't go your way doesn't mean Fed agencies have turned against you and are out to get you.  That's a rather remarkable thing to claim and frankly I have yet to see any evidence.  Pundits I trust who are in and around these Fed agencies every day rebuke it as a pretty ridiculous accusation.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Skywalkre

[Skywalkre]

On 9/6/2023 at 8:42 AM, Tim the Tank Nut said:

If anyone is of the opinion that the FBI doesn't have a bias then the observer isn't paying attention.  In many circles of law enforcement the view of the FBI is poor.

That basically just leaves local law enforcement as the ones making those assertions... and we have an entire thread about how they don't have a leg to stand on as far as competence.

[Skywalkre]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:28 AM, Murph said:

Holy Sh*t! This is big, fraud might, maybe, somehow, possibly be exposed in Arizona:

https://www.westernjournal.com/election-integrity-win-arizona-court-rules-states-unlawful-signature-matching-process/

Murph... you love to throw around the NPC insult and here you are acting like one.  Maybe when you come across something like this take a few seconds to get another opinion of the piece outside your own echo chamber.  If you did that you would have noticed that this case a) has nothing directly to do with fraud or claims of fraud in previous elections, b) is not over yet and this is an initial ruling, and c) all this means is that if it holds future elections will take longer to verify.  That's because just because there may be a discrepancy in a mail-in ballot that doesn't mean it's just tossed out.  They have to investigate and verify and now that means a lot of mail-in ballots will have to go through this process.

On 9/6/2023 at 11:32 AM, sunday said:

Our man in Arizona has stated several times Arizona has best electoral system in the world and fraud is impossible.

Never said any such thing. 

On 9/6/2023 at 9:15 PM, rmgill said:

He's told ME it's impossible. When I've seen how a dead neighbor voted, how my mother's voter registration as valid for 3 election cycles after her death AND how there were oddities with the flooding stopping the vote counting in the building right next to where I was on the night of the election. Which was odd, because I saw NOTHING indicating flooding, let alone any city water works folks. Mind you, I've seen what that looks like. But the later reports were that it was a leaky toilet or something.  Yeah, we evacuate buildings because of leaky toilets. 

Again, nope.  You all could at least have the decency to attribute to me what I actually say.  Is that really asking that much instead of seeing so many strawmen thrown out by you all?

As to your assertion in bold that you've made here before... have you reached out to authorities?  Have you reached out to local and national press?  I ask because there was a similar story after '20 (I forget if it was in AZ) and it turned out the accusation was being made off of an error being shown online when looking into the matter.  Authorities checked and discovered there was nothing there.

So... if you truly believe this... what have you done to verify it?  If it's true FOX would have a field day with this because this would actually be some evidence that something is going on.  Rs could finally use some of that because to this day they're still lacking it completely in their claims of a stolen election in '20.

[Skywalkre]

On 9/5/2023 at 8:12 AM, Josh said:

I believe I and Skywalkre (is that intentional or a typo when you created your login?)

Intentional.  Was a diehard Star Wars fan when I was young.  I'm old enough that I was fairly on top of getting my name reserved back in the early days of the web but not quite the fastest.  Skywalker was always taken... but Skywalkre was free.  Went with that... until I didn't care about Star Wars anymore.

[Josh]

19 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

It's based on the attempts to put Trump in prison I think, or at least ban him from the ballot in as many states as possible, then replace him on the ballot with an establishment Romney type.  Attempting to invoke the 14th when no one has been convicted of insurrection is, you would admit, pretty far fetched.

Wake me if a blue state court lets that happen.

[Skywalkre]

1 hour ago, glenn239 said:

It's based on the attempts to put Trump in prison I think, or at least ban him from the ballot in as many states as possible, then replace him on the ballot with an establishment Romney type.  Attempting to invoke the 14th when no one has been convicted of insurrection is, you would admit, pretty far fetched.

Charging one politician from a party is not the same as trying to shift to a single-party system.  Those charges are also not that surprising.  If folks on the Right were to take a break from the echo chambers they stay in they'd realize this.

Again, the original claim that Ds are trying to shift to a single party system is... ugh... the poster should be embarrassed by such a stupid remark.