Because Democrat Voter Fraud

[rmgill]

4 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Also, the folks posting this... if he was right you do realize the implication... right?  Look at those nine states in the dark red.  Most voted for Trump.  Are you all arguing there's reason to believe Trump stole this election?  🤣

No, it just means that the swing was far too RED for any issues to matter. 

But none the less, I'd like to see the voter rolls properly cleaned of invalid and dead voters. 

[Sinistar]

the democrats do have an image problem with attempting several things as objectives which looks like they

have been trying to normalize erasing any distinctions between citizen and non-citizen as their objective

that even if they are not consciously doing it

there is a strong appearance that they are doing it as if they were taking every

measure possible to do it

 

one of these things alone is suspicious but together they point to a deliberate pattern acting in concert:

 

in some local jurisdictions there have been attempts to give undocumented immigrants ID cards, driver's licenses, or

and / or

remove voter ID restrictions in voting

 

and / or

award the ability to vote in some local and municipal elections no questions asked

 

and generally give the appearance that they are trying to change the status of 'illegal immigrant' to officially the category 'undocumented migrant' which would eventually just be pared down to 'migrant'

 

then they often claim that they are not doing these things while they are doing it

 

but being tone def to the broad reaction that it has been causing because it looks like they have been trying to normalize registering people not eligible to vote and still being somewhat aghast how they lost decisively is what is also very apparent as they chalk up the election results to miscreants within their own party: i.e., stupid dumb hillbilly straight white males

 

and so  if measures are put in place which prevents them from doing it

then they can point to the lack of evidence of illegal voting patterns as proof they really were not doing that at all

 

 

[Murph]

The vote for Trump was too big for the dems to cheat this time.

[Murph]

Video of a poll worker running ballots through the machine three times AFTER the facility had been "evacuated" for a "bomb threat".  

https://x.com/DerrickEvans4WV/status/1880142666618605771

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/caught-video-orange-county-ca-election-worker-repeatedly/

 

In a bombshell revelation, TGP contributor Joe Hoft and his team at JoeHoft.com have raised serious questions about ballot counting procedures in Orange County, California.

Reviewing video footage from the Orange County ballot counting facility on the evening of Friday, November 8, 2024, Joe identified a troubling incident: an election worker appeared to process a large batch of ballots through a voting machine three separate times.

“We don’t know if there is a legitimate reason for the worker’s actions,” Joe wrote, adding, “But the worker pushed the same batch through the machine three times. (Each ballot is to be counted only once.)”

This activity allegedly occurred shortly before the facility had received a bomb threat, forcing the evacuation of staff and public observers.

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that a bomb threat was called into the Santa Ana building where counting was going on.

[rmgill]

How can a single ballot be counted twice? Is there not a unique ID on each one for the count to prevent duplication? 

[seahawk]

Would that not also be done to test a machine?

[rmgill]

19 minutes ago, seahawk said:

Would that not also be done to test a machine?

Sure but if it's counting at that point, even blank ballots would throw errors into the data set. 

Or you have ballots explicitly marked as "test" so that you get ballot results for TEST which are excluded. That way your data set can have an explicit error correction for the TEST ballots. But if you're doing so, clearly marked ballots for transparency are paramount. 

Edited January 17, 2025 by rmgill

[Skywalkre]

You all are missing a key part of the story Murph quoted above:

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We don’t know if there is a legitimate reason for the worker’s actions

This GWP article and the person they're quoting don't have a fucking clue what's going on... but they still have the nerve to imply it's suspicious.  This right here sums up 99% of the 'stolen election' BS from the MAGA crowd back in '20 - they had no idea how local election processes worked yet had the gall to claim fraud.

Murph (yet again) isn't even reading what he's quoting.  He said this happened after the evacuation... the part he quoted above clearly states this happened before.

[Ssnake]

29 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

This GWP article and the person they're quoting don't have a fucking clue what's going on... but they still have the nerve to imply it's suspicious.

...because it is suspicious?

If there's an evacuation order, why would some people stay behind, and feed a counting machine without supervision? Why would it even be considered "normal" to feed a vote counting machine in violation of the four eyes principle?

That's the question that needs to be answered.

There's a sliver of hope that it was plain incompetence in the violation of procedures, but from over here it doesn't look good. The onus to prove that nothing nefarious went on is on those who say that nothing bad happened. How can you be so sure?

[Skywalkre]

6 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

...because it is suspicious?

If there's an evacuation order, why would some people stay behind, and feed a counting machine without supervision? Why would it even be considered "normal" to feed a vote counting machine in violation of the four eyes principle?

That's the question that needs to be answered.

There's a sliver of hope that it was plain incompetence in the violation of procedures, but from over here it doesn't look good. The onus to prove that nothing nefarious went on is on those who say that nothing bad happened. How can you be so sure?

Where are you getting that she stayed behind after the bomb threat?  Murph's the only one saying that and his quotes above (and the article) actually say the opposite... and I already mentioned this in my post which you didn't include in your quote of me.

And, for shits and giggles, I actually went and read the GWP article (which Murph probably didn't).  The whole exchange is explained by local officials:

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In his post, Joe Hoft stated: “We don’t know if there is a legitimate reason for the worker’s actions.”

The answer is “Yes.” This video shows an Orange County election worker scanning a batch of ballots three times, but only saving the batch once.

This is shown at the 1:25 mark of the video Mr. Hoft posted when following her third scan of the batch of ballots, a batch report printed from the printer at the end of the table, which she then attached to the top of the batch of ballots. This batch report did not print the first two times she scanned the batch of ballots, meaning she did not save those scans.

She likely scanned the batch of ballots twice and then cleaned the scanner before scanning the batch of ballots a third time because during the first two scans some of the ballots were rejected by the scanner. Given the large number of vote-by-mail ballots we must scan during an election, we must regularly clean the scanners.

We complete quality checks and audits to ensure ballots are only counted once and accurately, including:

• Other Orange County election workers later quality checked the batch of ballots in this video two additional times, making sure the ballots in the batch match the information printed on the report. We do not upload any batch of ballots into the tally until these two reviews are completed.
• Before I certified the results of the election, we audited the results of each of the 171 contests on the ballot. The audit was conducted by randomly selecting one percent of the precincts in the county (23) and then selecting additional precincts (62) until every contest was included. Then four-person audit teams hand counted every ballot in those selected precincts. Our audit teams hand counted about 40,000 ballots for this election. These hand-counted results were compared to the voting system tally, finding that the results of each contest was correct. You can review information about these audits on our website at ocvote.gov/audit.

We've all wasted some time because Murph isn't even reading what he's linking.  It's a day that ends in y on the FFZ...

[Murph]

Yawn, keep trying to prove the Dems did not cheat.  Yawn.

[seahawk]

11 hours ago, rmgill said:

Sure but if it's counting at that point, even blank ballots would throw errors into the data set. 

Or you have ballots explicitly marked as "test" so that you get ballot results for TEST which are excluded. That way your data set can have an explicit error correction for the TEST ballots. But if you're doing so, clearly marked ballots for transparency are paramount. 

You would not mark the ballots, because they must be similar to the normal ones so that the test is effective.

But even this does not explain the whole incident, as the whole situation is suspicious. Why is the person alone? Why is nobody supervising the process? Why was the polling station evacuated? 

This looks very much like a manipulation.

[Murph]

AND Orange County is a republican stronghold, and guess what?  The Republicans lost by small margins after lots of "counting", but Trump won, I wonder why that is?  Criminal Investigation NOW!

[Skywalkre]

9 hours ago, seahawk said:

You would not mark the ballots, because they must be similar to the normal ones so that the test is effective.

But even this does not explain the whole incident, as the whole situation is suspicious. Why is the person alone? Why is nobody supervising the process? Why was the polling station evacuated? 

This looks very much like a manipulation.

For the second time in six posts it's already been answered... by the very link Murph shared.  It's not suspicious at all, either. 

I'll keep the quote shorter because apparently reading links, or even full comments from others, is asking too much in this thread.

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This is shown at the 1:25 mark of the video Mr. Hoft posted when following her third scan of the batch of ballots, a batch report printed from the printer at the end of the table, which she then attached to the top of the batch of ballots. This batch report did not print the first two times she scanned the batch of ballots, meaning she did not save those scans.

She likely scanned the batch of ballots twice and then cleaned the scanner before scanning the batch of ballots a third time because during the first two scans some of the ballots were rejected by the scanner. Given the large number of vote-by-mail ballots we must scan during an election, we must regularly clean the scanners.

 

[seahawk]

And why was she alone?

[Skywalkre]

4 minutes ago, seahawk said:

And why was she alone?

She wasn't.  Only Murph has hinted at that with no evidence to support it.  The video in the X link Murph provides clearly shows other people around her the entire time.  The GWP article clearly states her actions occurred before the bomb threat cleared the building.

[Murph]

I feel the cope is strong on that one.

[Skywalkre]

Murph, if you have another source to support what you're asserting... no one's stopping you from posting it.

It's just difficult to take you seriously when your writing in your post above claims several things that your own links don't support.  You said this happened after the building was cleared, the footage and article clearly show/state otherwise.  Your article gives a clear and concise explanation as to what was happening and why it's not suspicious... so what reasons do you have to not believe them?

No one's stopping you from engaging like a grown, mature adult who can use their critical thinking skills to support their argument.

[seahawk]

There is only the excuse by the Californian authorities, which would be complicit in this manipulation. There is no independent verification of correct processing.

[Murph]

11 minutes ago, seahawk said:

There is only the excuse by the Californian authorities, which would be complicit in this manipulation. There is no independent verification of correct processing.

Yes, it should never take weeks, and it was just so odd that all the Republicans lost, by small margins.  If you cannot count the vote the night of the election, you are cheating.  

[Skywalkre]

7 minutes ago, seahawk said:

There is only the excuse by the Californian authorities, which would be complicit in this manipulation. There is no independent verification of correct processing.

First, the CA authorities have nothing to do with Murph posting comments that aren't supported by his own links.

Second, feel free to find someone to question the CA response and highlight it's BS.  The links Murph gave don't do that, and the source the GWP is using clearly states they have no idea what proper procedure is.  This is another great time to remind folks that there are lawyers in this country who specialize in these things... and going back to '20 they've avoided working with Trump and the MAGA crowd because there are ethical standards they didn't want to break on top of the fact they didn't want to lose their ability to practice law by signing up on these witch hunts.  If I were a betting man I'd wager this CA response is 100% accurate (but, again, feel free to find someone reputable to challenge that... I'm not going to hold my breath).

[Murph]

Yawn, so much cope.

[Skywalkre]

18 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

I would say that the Demon-rat deeply state does just that. Only GWP has the stones to resist them.

I remember the story from an I&I, where one guy claimed he was (a known poster I could name), and the room fell silent (iirc). Wouldn't it be cool if Murph and Skywalkre are trolling us all 4D chess style. 👍

No trolling, just a lot of frustration.

There's nothing to this notion that '20 was stolen or the Ds engage in widespread fraud.  Nothing... zero... zilch... nada.  Yet, on a weekly basis we're subject to some asinine posts that as I routinely show have no fucking merit to them at all.  It's sad on so many levels... folks don't have the decency to point out the ridiculousness (probably because Murph is 'on their side' and heaven forbid they speak against one of their own) so just stay quiet.

But what's worse are the ramifications of this.  It's not just some old loon spouting nonsense on a web forum.  These lies have led to widespread harassment and threats to poll workers, government employees, and elected officials.  All of that... over a lie... with not a fucking shred of evidence to support it.

And speaking of GWP... I love how folks on here criticize the MSM yet GWP gets quoted all the time (and sometimes without being read by the person quoting it like Murph recently did in this thread) with no one even raising an eyebrow.  For real, people?  It seriously feels like I'm living in a bad comedy sketch that won't end...

[Rick]

2 hours ago, Stefan Fredriksson said:

I know. At the start I even bothered to read some GWP-articles, or about what they were referencing. It was educating for me.

GWP ?

[Murph]

I am missing that reference as well.