Ssnake Posted November 3 Posted November 3 4 hours ago, Murph said: Nothing to see here, just a machine that will not accept a Trump vote. https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1852518952334950643 Might also be explained by a badly calibrated touchscreen, so not necessarily a conspiracy - but isn't looking good in any case.
Ivanhoe Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, urbanoid said: I'm not old enough to remember elections involving Reagan and Clinton, but I remember Bush43 and every president/candidate since then being 'Hitler'. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/10/who-wasnt-hitler.php Quote Which raises the question: What Republican president of the modern era hasn’t been Hitler? By my count, there is one. In high school he was a three-sport athlete. As an undergraduate at the University of Michigan he was a substitute center behind All-American Charles Bernard on national championship teams of 1932 and 1933. In 1934, his senior season, he started at center for all of Michigan’s games and was named team MVP. He worked his way through Yale Law School as the college’s assistant football coach, attending law school in the off-season. The man of mystery to whom I’m referring is Gerald Ford, of course. According to the left, Ford wasn’t Hitler. He was a stupid klutz. IIRC, FDR accused Coolidge of being a fascist. Its nothing new. https://www.nytimes.com/1948/10/26/archives/president-likens-dewey-to-hitler-as-fascists-tool-says-when-bigots.html https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/07/14/76-years-of-the-lefts-hitlers-from-the-little-man-on-the-wedding-cake-to-donald-trump-n4930688 Quote Before Bush, the Republicans fielded two presidential candidates, George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole, who actually fought the Nazis. Tough to call them Hitler. Ronald Reagan, however, was a serious Hitler; a Democrat congressman, William Clay of Missouri, claimed that the Gipper was “trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf." Nixon, of course, got it, too: in Aug. 1972, Democrat candidate George McGovern said that the Watergate break-in was “the kind of thing you expect under a person like Hitler.” . Quote On Oct. 26, 1948, exactly one week before election day, the New York Times ran a front-page, above-the-fold article entitled “PRESIDENT LIKENS DEWEY TO HITLER AS FASCISTS' TOOL.” It began: “A Republican victory on election day will bring a Fascistic threat to American freedom that is even more dangerous than the perils from communism and extreme right ‘crackpots,’ President Truman asserted here tonight.”
Skywalkre Posted November 3 Posted November 3 On 10/30/2024 at 5:36 PM, Ivanhoe said: It'll never happen, but there needs to be a federal law such "calling" a state less than 24 hours after the polls close is a felony with 5 years minimum. I'm guessing you mean calling a state before the polls close? Otherwise, why in the world should someone expressing a pretty basic 1st amendment right be sent to prison trying to call a state after the polls close?
Skywalkre Posted November 3 Posted November 3 On 10/31/2024 at 7:40 AM, Mr King said: https://x.com/stillgray/status/1851896725654393284 First of all, in most of the country you're not allowed to wear any sort of political messaging when you go to vote. SC law allows just a small pin to be worn, IIRC. This guy not knowing the law doesn't give him the right to ignore it or be an asshole to the staff who are enforcing the law. Reddit pointed out that around the 0:44 mark you can't tell if he touches her first or not, so jumping to the headline of "Trump supporter assaulted" may be a bit premature. I'm just curious where the cop was at this polling station. Given the temp in the country over this election it'd be crazy not to have them at every polling place.
Skywalkre Posted November 3 Posted November 3 6 hours ago, Murph said: Nothing to see here, just a machine that will not accept a Trump vote. https://x.com/TaraBull808/status/1852518952334950643 There are a ton of stories out there (so I'm not going to bother linking... if you can't find them you're a moron) highlighting how the machine was pulled, they couldn't recreate the result (initially), local R election officials investigated and reported no other incidents, and more recent stories seem to indicate it was user error. When you see this shit don't you bother to do just a little bit of investigating to see if it's true?
rmgill Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, Skywalkre said: I'm guessing you mean calling a state before the polls close? Otherwise, why in the world should someone expressing a pretty basic 1st amendment right be sent to prison trying to call a state after the polls close? Sorry. Don’t make a joke about texting a number to vote for Hillary.
Roman Alymov Posted November 3 Posted November 3 9 hours ago, rmgill said: Are there Democrats in the Former Soviet SSR Georgia? In modern Russian, after the experience of 1990th-2000th, "Democrats" became the label for any West-backed political movement (there was a popular joke in Russian "Democracy is not the rule of people - but the rule of democrats") so taking into consideration that, while both sides of political struggle in recent elections in Former Soviet SSR Georgia are anti-Russian, only one of them was supported by West, they could safely called "Democrats" in Russian ( no connection here to Democrats-the-US-party).
Ivanhoe Posted November 3 Posted November 3 11 hours ago, Skywalkre said: I'm guessing you mean calling a state before the polls close? Otherwise, why in the world should someone expressing a pretty basic 1st amendment right be sent to prison trying to call a state after the polls close? No, I mean afterwards. As already stated, we've had numerous "election interference" prosecutions over lesser offenses.
Ivanhoe Posted November 3 Posted November 3 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/11/02/service-members-complain-about-lack-of-absentee-ballots-n2647157 Quote Republican lawmakers demand answers from the Pentagon after military service members complained that they have not received enough absentee ballots to vote before Election Day. GOP Reps. Brian Mast (R-FL), Bill Huizenga (R-MI), and Mike Waltz (R-FL) sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin citing their “grave concern over deficiencies in the Defense Department’s protocols” for the U.S. military because they said the absentee ballot stockpile has been “depleted and had not been replenished.” “Our nation’s brave men and women in uniform brought to our attention that there has been inadequate education at the administrative level on how to register to vote, request an absentee ballot, and fill in a federal write-in absentee ballot if their state-issued ballot does not arrive in time," the letter reads. “Other service members also stated that when a request for a federal write-in absentee ballot was made, they were told the base’s stockpile of such ballots was depleted and had not been replenished." Is this the first election that DOD has dealt with?
JWB Posted November 8 Posted November 8 6 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said: From a voice of experience: Mark Groubert was a writer for the Weekly World News which was a fake news outlet. A weaker version of National Enquirer.
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 8 Posted November 8 30 minutes ago, JWB said: Mark Groubert was a writer for the Weekly World News which was a fake news outlet. A weaker version of National Enquirer. And that has what to do with his experience with his mail/ballot being stolen?
Skywalkre Posted November 8 Posted November 8 I didn't know about the guy's history, but just a few minutes into that vid he's referencing D'Souca's fantasy film 2000 Mules. Couple that to that YT channel that's been linked here before to outlandish voter fraud BS... and I didn't see a point to keep listening.
JWB Posted November 8 Posted November 8 13 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said: And that has what to do with his experience with his mail/ballot being stolen? Maybe he is lying about that?
Tim the Tank Nut Posted November 8 Posted November 8 when the trend lines are studied for the last five elections (including this one) there will be an outlier on votes cast in 2020.
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 8 Posted November 8 20 minutes ago, JWB said: Maybe he is lying about that? So writing for a satirical publication makes one a source of misinformation automatically, or do you have more concrete examples of his dishonesty?
JWB Posted November 8 Posted November 8 7 minutes ago, Tim Sielbeck said: So writing for a satirical publication makes one a source of misinformation automatically, or do you have more concrete examples of his dishonesty? He spoke of "Armenian gangs" that weren't actually involved. Then he claimed a sheriff but didn't say the name of said sheriff. He also mumbled gobbledegook name of somebody else who almost certainly doesn't exist. If these events took place then why doesn't he name names?
Skywalkre Posted November 8 Posted November 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tim the Tank Nut said: when the trend lines are studied for the last five elections (including this one) there will be an outlier on votes cast in 2020. I don't see why. Back in 2000 both candidates won around 50 million. Just eight years later Obama won nearly 20 million more votes (and no one raised any eyebrows) whereas Rs flat-lined at around 60 million up through Trump's first campaign. The Ds fell back to around 65 million in '12 and '16 and then jumped up to the 81 million in Biden's win. The jump from '16 to '20 was ~18% for Trump and ~23% for Biden (so both saw big jumps). You could just as easily question how in the world the Rs, who had been so flat in turnout for years, suddenly saw a massive jump in '20 when Trump was at the time the most unpopular POTUS ever and then saw that same turnout this year when he was again unpopular (and coming off of 6Jan and the host of other controversial things he's done). ETA - Let's not forget the only multi-state fraud cases that are making any progress are the ones against Rs for their fake elector schemes. Trump is in the clear now because he's going to be POTUS, but that doesn't change what he did. Edited November 8 by Skywalkre
Skywalkre Posted November 8 Posted November 8 1 hour ago, Mr King said: 🤣🤣🤣 This is a prime example of shitty graph design. Have the starting point be 50 instead of 0 to make the '20 jump seem more ridiculous. Let's see another one going back to '00 and starting at 0 (which I know we won't see because then it doesn't help push the narrative).
glenn239 Posted November 9 Posted November 9 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Skywalkre said: 🤣🤣🤣 This is a prime example of shitty graph design. Have the starting point be 50 instead of 0 to make the '20 jump seem more ridiculous. Let's see another one going back to '00 and starting at 0 (which I know we won't see because then it doesn't help push the narrative). So, if 82 million people were motivated to vote against Trump in 2020, why did things flatline back to 2016 levels in 2024? Did 16 million people that stopped evil in 2020 decide for no apparent reason that Hitler was now OK? Edited November 9 by glenn239
Skywalkre Posted November 9 Posted November 9 4 minutes ago, glenn239 said: So, if 82 million people were motivated to vote against Trump in 2020, why did things flatline back to 2016 levels in 2024? Did 16 million people that stopped evil in 2020 decide for no apparent reason that Hitler was now OK? They didn't. That graph, as already mentioned, is garbage (on so many levels). The votes are still being counted and by the time it's all done Harris will have the second most votes ever by a D behind Biden in '20, beating Obama's figures from '08. What happened seems pretty obvious from the exit polling. To quote James Carville, again, "it's the economy, stupid." Folks took out their frustration on a candidate seen to be part of an administration that didn't do enough about inflation. It's amusing to see folks here (and in the media, even the MSM) talk about this like some red wave. By the time everything is done Trump will have a win in the EC similar to Biden's from '20 and far from Obama in '08 or Reagan in '84. His lead in popular vote will be lower than Biden's in '20. The House may move by just 1-2 seats in the direction of the Rs. The Senate gained seats, but it's been known for years this was an R-friendly year. Voters are giving Trump a chance to do something about the economy. If he doesn't deliver... the Rs are gonna have a bloodbath in '26.
R011 Posted November 9 Posted November 9 3 hours ago, Skywalkre said: 🤣🤣🤣 This is a prime example of shitty graph design. Have the starting point be 50 instead of 0 to make the '20 jump seem more ridiculous. Let's see another one going back to '00 and starting at 0 (which I know we won't see because then it doesn't help push the narrative). Make the base line zero or 60, it still shows about 25% more D voters in 2020 than 2012, 2016, or 2024.
Skywalkre Posted November 9 Posted November 9 31 minutes ago, R011 said: Make the base line zero or 60, it still shows about 25% more D voters in 2020 than 2012, 2016, or 2024. - Visually, if you start it at 60, the increase makes it look like the vote tally doubled. It's an idiotic way of displaying things visually because it overemphasizes the difference relative to the total. - As mentioned in other replies, the increase for Ds in '20 was ~23%. The increase for Trump was ~18%. Both were big jumps. So why make a big deal out of the D jump? - As mentioned several times in various threads, the count for this election isn't over. Harris is over 70 million now. Biden's '20 figure is ~16% more than what she has now, but at the rate she's gaining votes she'll likely end around 73-74 million which would put her just around 10% short of Biden's count.
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