Because Democrat Voter Fraud

[Ivanhoe]

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-announces-over-1-million-ineligible-voters-removed-from-voter-rolls

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Governor Greg Abbott today announced that since signing Senate Bill 1 into law in 2021, Texas has removed over one million people from the state’s voter rolls, including people who moved out-of-state, are deceased, and are noncitizens. That removal process has been, and will continue to be, ongoing.

Note that most of those million people (or personas, to be precise) could not have voted in person due to voter ID requirements.

[Murph]

Which is a good thing, and the best remedy for Democrat led vote fraud.

[Murph]

Zuck might have changed the election by his antics, he needs to be in prison.

 

 

[Murph]

As for our lefty posters, they have to wait for the Ministry of Truth to tell them this weeks "Objective truth", otherwise they get confused.  

[Murph]

Texas makes a very alarming discovery of Democrat vote fraud when cleaning up the voter rolls:  Democrats most affected, LULAC screams "RACIST".

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2024/08/28/texas-removes-1-million-people-from-voter-rolls-n2644020

 

Texas’s effort to clean up its voter rolls has resulted in more than 1 million names being removed, Gov. Greg Abbott announced Monday. 

Since signing Senate Bill 1 into law in 2021, individuals who have moved out of the state, died, or are noncitizens have been taken off voter rolls.

 

“Election integrity is essential to our democracy,” Abbott said in a statement. “I have signed the strongest election laws in the nation to protect the right to vote and to crackdown on illegal voting. These reforms have led to the removal of over one million ineligible people from our voter rolls in the last three years, including noncitizens, deceased voters, and people who moved to another state. The Secretary of State and county voter registrars have an ongoing legal requirement to review the voter rolls, remove ineligible voters, and refer any potential illegal voting to the Attorney General’s Office and local authorities for investigation and prosecution. Illegal voting in Texas will never be tolerated. We will continue to actively safeguard Texans’ sacred right to vote while also aggressively protecting our elections from illegal voting.”

Of the 1 million names removed, more than 6,500 were noncitizens and about 1,930 of them have a voter history, the governor’s office said.

“The Secretary of State’s office is in the process of sending all 1,930 records to the Attorney General’s Office for investigation and potential legal action,” the press release said. “To better crackdown on illegal voting, Governor Abbott signed House Bill 1243 into law last year, increasing the penalty for illegal voting, including voting by noncitizens, to a second-degree felony.”

 

[Murph]

Yes, this is what they will try.  

 

 

[Murph]

And of course they cannot explain this either:

 

[Skywalkre]

1 hour ago, Murph said:

And of course they cannot explain this either:

 

Wow... an unsourced picture making a wild claim.  This MUST BE TRUE.

If you google the accusation you'll find a facebook clip that's two years old where someone is making this claim.  Would undoubtedly sound illegal given GA laws at the time.  But then... there's nothing more out there from what I can tell.

GA is incredibly friendly to the idea of investigating voter fraud.  The problem is, as highlighted by statements from elected officials, no one's really had anything to bring to them.  I noted this story pages ago, but earlier this year a conservative group from TX had to admit in court it had no evidence for the claims they were making of voter fraud in GA.  Who knows if the guy making the above claim was related to that group.  If you google stories of ballot harvesting in GA you get accounts like that one or this one highlighting no actual evidence and cases being dropped.

Long story short - this pic appears to be more bullshit from the #1 peddler of it in this thread (Murph).

[JWB]

The truth is out. Give them free houses and there will never be a fair election.

 

 

[Murph]

They will never admit it.  They cannot since the orders have gone out.  The Narrative has to be upheld:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/new-complaint-filed-alleging-that-us-postal-service/

Let me give you the highlights of the complaint and John’s affidavit.

Let me give you the highlights of the complaint and John’s affidavit.

4. As a result, allegations of problems with the delivery of mail-in ballots by the USPS
   were rampant and continue, to this day, to be challenged. As time passes, the allegations are not
   being disproven but, in fact, many of the allegations have turned out to be true.
5. These allegations include, but are not limited to, lost mail-in ballots (which were
   subsequently found after the elections), late delivery of mail-in ballots, improperly post-markedmail-in ballots that were still allowed to proceed to their destination despite post-marks beingprovided on valid mail-in ballots, and fraudulent mail-in ballots being sent via USPS.

John’s affidavit gets to the heart of the matter:

3. On November 21, 2020, Doyle and I participated in a phone call with a contact
   (“NC”) who notified us of allegations that the United States Postal Service (“USPS”)
   experienced certain “failures” involving mail-in ballots during the 2020 Presidential Election and
   wondered if we would assist with the investigation.
4. On November 24, 2020, Doyle and I met with NC and others in Arlington, VA to
   discuss the investigation and learn about the whistleblower, Jesse Richard Morgan, a truck driver
   employed by a contractor for the USPS who alleged he carried mail-in ballots among USPS
   facilities in Bethpage, NY, Harrisburg, PA, and Lancaster, PA (“Affiant Morgan”).
5. On November 25, 2020, Doyle and I began our investigation in earnest and
   identified a few companies of interest and, within those companies, employees who may have
   information.
6. As a result of Affiant Morgan, Doyle and I focused our investigation on the USPS
   facility on Grumman Road in Bethpage, NY (“Grumman Road Facility”).
7. On November 27, 2020, I enlisted the assistance of former colleagues from the
   DEA who are retired and live near the Grumman Road Facility.
8. On November 30, 2020, after learning the identities of several USPS employees
   within the Grumman Road Facility with whom Affiant Morgan had contact, Doyle and I
   conducted an interview with one such USPS employee (“CI-1”).
9. CI-1 stated the following facts:
   a. CI-1 is involved with loading trucks at the Grumman Road Facility –
   known as an expeditor.
   b. CI-1 told us that the Grumman Road Facility has never processed firstclass
   mail and still does not process mail because the facility does not have the proper
   equipment to do so (allegedly known as an “Oregon Machine”).
   c. CI-1 stated that mail-in ballots were in the gaylords with signatures on the
   outside envelope at the facility on numerous occasions and asked a supervisor about what
   to do with them.
   d. CI-1 was told to just get them loaded onto the trailers for delivery and to
   get them to their destination.
   e. CI-1 told us that the Grumman Road Facility is only equipped to process
   packages and express mail, not first-class mail.
   f. Doyle and I asked a few more times if CI-1 was sure that ballots were seen
   at the Grumman Road Facility and CI-1 confirmed each time.
10. On December 2, 2020, after having spoken with a Postal Inspector with
    knowledge of the Grumman Road Facility (“CI-2”), I asked if the Grumman Road Facility would
    receive and process first-class mail. CI-2 told me the following:
11. a. The Grumman Road Facility only handles parcel post.
12. b. Mail-in ballots should not have been delivered to the Grumman Road
13. Facility because the facility does not have the processing machines (the Oregon Machine)
14. required to handle the processing of first-class mail or bulk mail.

The goal of this lawsuit is to prevent the USPS from interfering in the upcoming election. It is important to note that the shipment picked up by Mr. Morgan was not the only one. It is the only one where John Moynihan and Larry Doyle obtained corroborating evidence.

The lawsuit seeks the following remedies:

124. Declaring that Maryland’s reliance on the United States Postal Service to deliver
     the ballots of its citizens is unconstitutional in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments
     of the United States Constitution and a violation of the Maryland Constitution;
125. Enjoining Defendants Lee and Summers and their respective agents, officers,
     employees, and successors, and all persons acting in concert with them, from allowing no-excuse
     mail-in voting until it can be shown that the United States Postal Service can adequately delivers
     all mail-in ballots to the boards of elections around the state;
126. Enjoining Defendant USPS from participating in the collection and delivery of
     mail-in ballots;

It has taken four years for this to come to light. There was fraud in the 2020 Presidential election and the USPS played a critical role in making that happen. We will see where this goes.

You can find the complaint here — Case 1:24-cv-02442-ADC Document 1 Filed 08/22/24 Page 1 of 21. I will post a link once I find one.

 

 

 

[Skywalkre]

12 hours ago, Murph said:

They will never admit it.  They cannot since the orders have gone out.  The Narrative has to be upheld:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/new-complaint-filed-alleging-that-us-postal-service/

Let me give you the highlights of the complaint and John’s affidavit.

Let me give you the highlights of the complaint and John’s affidavit.

4. As a result, allegations of problems with the delivery of mail-in ballots by the USPS
   were rampant and continue, to this day, to be challenged. As time passes, the allegations are not
   being disproven but, in fact, many of the allegations have turned out to be true.
5. These allegations include, but are not limited to, lost mail-in ballots (which were
   subsequently found after the elections), late delivery of mail-in ballots, improperly post-markedmail-in ballots that were still allowed to proceed to their destination despite post-marks beingprovided on valid mail-in ballots, and fraudulent mail-in ballots being sent via USPS.

John’s affidavit gets to the heart of the matter:

3. On November 21, 2020, Doyle and I participated in a phone call with a contact
   (“NC”) who notified us of allegations that the United States Postal Service (“USPS”)
   experienced certain “failures” involving mail-in ballots during the 2020 Presidential Election and
   wondered if we would assist with the investigation.
4. On November 24, 2020, Doyle and I met with NC and others in Arlington, VA to
   discuss the investigation and learn about the whistleblower, Jesse Richard Morgan, a truck driver
   employed by a contractor for the USPS who alleged he carried mail-in ballots among USPS
   facilities in Bethpage, NY, Harrisburg, PA, and Lancaster, PA (“Affiant Morgan”).
5. On November 25, 2020, Doyle and I began our investigation in earnest and
   identified a few companies of interest and, within those companies, employees who may have
   information.
6. As a result of Affiant Morgan, Doyle and I focused our investigation on the USPS
   facility on Grumman Road in Bethpage, NY (“Grumman Road Facility”).
7. On November 27, 2020, I enlisted the assistance of former colleagues from the
   DEA who are retired and live near the Grumman Road Facility.
8. On November 30, 2020, after learning the identities of several USPS employees
   within the Grumman Road Facility with whom Affiant Morgan had contact, Doyle and I
   conducted an interview with one such USPS employee (“CI-1”).
9. CI-1 stated the following facts:
   a. CI-1 is involved with loading trucks at the Grumman Road Facility –
   known as an expeditor.
   b. CI-1 told us that the Grumman Road Facility has never processed firstclass
   mail and still does not process mail because the facility does not have the proper
   equipment to do so (allegedly known as an “Oregon Machine”).
   c. CI-1 stated that mail-in ballots were in the gaylords with signatures on the
   outside envelope at the facility on numerous occasions and asked a supervisor about what
   to do with them.
   d. CI-1 was told to just get them loaded onto the trailers for delivery and to
   get them to their destination.
   e. CI-1 told us that the Grumman Road Facility is only equipped to process
   packages and express mail, not first-class mail.
   f. Doyle and I asked a few more times if CI-1 was sure that ballots were seen
   at the Grumman Road Facility and CI-1 confirmed each time.
10. On December 2, 2020, after having spoken with a Postal Inspector with
    knowledge of the Grumman Road Facility (“CI-2”), I asked if the Grumman Road Facility would
    receive and process first-class mail. CI-2 told me the following:
11. a. The Grumman Road Facility only handles parcel post.
12. b. Mail-in ballots should not have been delivered to the Grumman Road
13. Facility because the facility does not have the processing machines (the Oregon Machine)
14. required to handle the processing of first-class mail or bulk mail.

The goal of this lawsuit is to prevent the USPS from interfering in the upcoming election. It is important to note that the shipment picked up by Mr. Morgan was not the only one. It is the only one where John Moynihan and Larry Doyle obtained corroborating evidence.

The lawsuit seeks the following remedies:

124. Declaring that Maryland’s reliance on the United States Postal Service to deliver
     the ballots of its citizens is unconstitutional in violation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments
     of the United States Constitution and a violation of the Maryland Constitution;
125. Enjoining Defendants Lee and Summers and their respective agents, officers,
     employees, and successors, and all persons acting in concert with them, from allowing no-excuse
     mail-in voting until it can be shown that the United States Postal Service can adequately delivers
     all mail-in ballots to the boards of elections around the state;
126. Enjoining Defendant USPS from participating in the collection and delivery of
     mail-in ballots;

It has taken four years for this to come to light. There was fraud in the 2020 Presidential election and the USPS played a critical role in making that happen. We will see where this goes.

You can find the complaint here — Case 1:24-cv-02442-ADC Document 1 Filed 08/22/24 Page 1 of 21. I will post a link once I find one.

I stopped reading when they mentioned Morgan.  That story has shown a long time ago to be... nothing.  They claim they have evidence... ok, we'll see if it holds up in court (if they even get there).  I'm not holding my breath.  Post again when this continues on and is shown to highlight the previous investigations somehow came to the wrong conclusions.  Considering this is coming off of gatewaypundit... I'm not holding my breath. 

Legit question... you all mock the NYT and WaPo but how many gwp articles linked in this thread have turned out to have any substance at all?

[JWB]

Those who oppose voter ID are doing so to commit fraud.

[Murph]

1 hour ago, JWB said:

Those who oppose voter ID are doing so to commit fraud.

ABSOLUTELY!  +1000! 

[glenn239]

20 hours ago, JWB said:

Those who oppose voter ID are doing so to commit fraud.

Canada requires voter ID.  It's easy and no one thinks twice about it.   So when posters here start talking their usual nonsense about how wonderful voter security is in places where the rules are loosey-goosey, and how dare you suggest that there might have been ballot fraud, blah, blah, blah, I just tune it out.   In Canada, you have ID, period, end of sentence.

[Skywalkre]

And a majority of US states require ID, in particular the main ones pointed at that supposedly had fraud... so what's the point you all are trying to make?  Were you all even aware of that or just spouting off the narrative the facebook posts that trigger y'all were saying?  (See Murph, once again, that's actually the proper use of that word.)

Oh, wait, I was wrong on one thing.  CA doesn't require ID and Trump recently stated he believes he should have won that in 2020 as well.  His reasoning was he had a really big crowd at a rally so how could he possibly have lost the state?!  I can only imagine TN's reaction if a D said something equally stupid like "I had a big rally in TX... how did I lose the state?!  FRAUD!!!"  🤣

[Josh]

I was lead to believe “y’all” was singular and “all y’all” was the plural.

But yes, Republicans seem to want to regulate things that are already regulated as a mechanism of fear mongering. You cannot vote for a federal position as a non citizen and most of the states, certainly most that matter, require ID.

[rmgill]

15 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

And a majority of US states require ID, in particular the main ones pointed at that supposedly had fraud... so what's the point you all are trying to make? 

That Democrats fight against even basic integrity mechanisms. 
 

Edited September 3, 2024 by rmgill

[sunday]

Do you all of Sam have ID documents with a mug pic?

Then there is that vote by mail thing, or unsupervised ballot boxes in the street. Those aspects of US electoral systems are quite unique in the world.

[Ssnake]

1 hour ago, sunday said:

Do you all of Sam have ID documents with a mug pic?

Most of Sam, but not everybody. That's precisely the point of contention. Usually, it's the driver's license, but not everybody has one - be it because you never acquired it, be it that it was taken away from you after dangerous driving incident(s). There are no ID cards in the US (or the UK).

[Ivanhoe]

43 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

Most of Sam, but not everybody. That's precisely the point of contention. Usually, it's the driver's license, but not everybody has one - be it because you never acquired it, be it that it was taken away from you after dangerous driving incident(s). There are no ID cards in the US (or the UK).

Actually there are. Most if not all US states offer a state ID card, very much like a driver's license and issued by the same DMV, for folks needing government-issued ID*. Remember that a large number of Americans have no passport, yet photo ID is required all over the place.

 

* https://www.dhs.gov/real-id/real-id-faqs

 

[Murph]

And it is always the Racist slave worshipping liberal dems who claim that minorities are too poor, too uneducated, too stupid, too in need of white liberals to get an ID of some sort.  Notice that only white liberals can save the poor minorities from the evil Republicans who want to make it too hard to get ID?  Not that any of that is even remotely true, but the Democrats have never loved this country since it made them give up their slaves, and they have spent the last 150+ years working on getting them back.  So far it is working.

The Democraps fight voter ID, but require an ID to get into a communist rally by the San Fran annointed one, or to buy booze, or to, well you get it.  They only want no ID to vote so they can cheat.  It is as simple as that.  Not that our resident NPCs will accept this.  

 

[rmgill]

Ami Horowitz asks if Voter ID's suppress the black vote. 

He asks in a liberal white area, UC Berkley. Then in Harlem. 

Note the Berkley kids and adults have a certain line and narrative that they parrot. This is from 7 years ago. 
 

 

Edited September 3, 2024 by rmgill

[Murph]

Ken Paxton tells Harris County and Bexar County that vote fraud is not going to be tolerated!  Democrats and illegal aliens hurt worst:

 

 

[Skywalkre]

15 hours ago, Murph said:

And it is always the Racist slave worshipping liberal dems who claim that minorities are too poor, too uneducated, too stupid, too in need of white liberals to get an ID of some sort.  Notice that only white liberals can save the poor minorities from the evil Republicans who want to make it too hard to get ID?  Not that any of that is even remotely true, but the Democrats have never loved this country since it made them give up their slaves, and they have spent the last 150+ years working on getting them back.  So far it is working.

The Democraps fight voter ID, but require an ID to get into a communist rally by the San Fran annointed one, or to buy booze, or to, well you get it.  They only want no ID to vote so they can cheat.  It is as simple as that.  Not that our resident NPCs will accept this. 

Fascinating world view, Murph... now try to make sense of what's actually going on out here.

AZ state law requires proof of citizenship.  Over a decade ago they tried to apply this same rule to being able to vote on Fed elections but lost the case because Fed law doesn't have that requirement.  That led to a compromise where if you submitted paperwork to vote but didn't have the required ID for state you were simply signed up for Fed elections.

FFW to just a few weeks ago.  The Rs were pushing another lawsuit stating these voters, about 42k in the state, shouldn't be eligible to vote at all.  SCOTUS recently ruled again, and in another compromise those 42k will still be able to vote but going forward if you submit the paperwork without the ID you won't automatically be signed up for Fed elections... you have to purposely ask for that now.

So why were Rs so hung up on these 42k voters?  Was it all about the sanctity and purity of our elections?  Nah... many of those 42k are on the Reservations (for those outside of the US some of these Reservations are little better than 3rd world countries).  Given the conditions and norms many Native Americans are born and never get a birth certificate.  Native Americans, especially up around the Navajo nation, voted at a much higher % for Biden than Trump back in 2020... to the point where if you could've taken away the votes of many of these 42k you likely would have given the state to Trump.

Please... go ahead and spin this... because it seems clear as day out here Rs were looking to disenfrachise tens of thousands of voters for pure politics and not principle.

[DB]

21 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Most of Sam, but not everybody. That's precisely the point of contention. Usually, it's the driver's license, but not everybody has one - be it because you never acquired it, be it that it was taken away from you after dangerous driving incident(s). There are no ID cards in the US (or the UK).

I suspect that the UK has a lower rate of people holding a driver's licence than does the US, which seems to give them out with breakfast cereal, and yet we have the requirement to provide photo ID.

If you don't have such, you can use a passport, which covers a lot of UK minority urban dwellers, and without that you can request a specific voting ID to use instead.

It's not a problem that's worth mentioning here, either, although the same tired US-origin arguments are trotted out against it whenever an election occurs.

What confuses me is that there are many who seem to think that relatively minor cases of voter law infractions (whatever the mechanism) can be ignored "because they don't affect the election result".

It's clear that the various voting mechanisms in place throughout the US are vulnerable and arguing that amendments to controls to tighten them up are unnecessary because the system hasn't collapsed yet is... irrational.

Another UK example - completing voter registration forms every year is mandatory. If an individual no longer resides at an address, it is a requirement to have the name removed from the role. It is the householder's legal duty to ensure that the roll at that address is correct. For me, the most bizarre oddity of the US elections is the failure to adequately maintain the voter register.