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Who is the 'wokester" here?

 

Woke went too far some time ago but then so did your beloved putin.

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6 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

A Ukrainian, is someone who either within or without the borders of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, identifies as Ukrainian.

Free and capable of self determination, something Russia has stated and affirmed in writing more than once.  Taking your ball back because you do not like the others who are 'playing' is the act of a petulant child/group of children.  It will not protect you from the real 'enemy. the PRC.....

What could putin promise to swing the vote against the Ukraine?  Something big for sure, can Russia afford it?

Joining the real world would be a good first step for Russia.

The Mopotopolitarians could join in if they like.

Thank you for clarification! Could you please explain this concept for me, barbaric Russian, in simple examples, please?

     For example, let's imagine the group of, let's say, 100 Pakistan locals turn up at the gates of UK Embasy in Karachi and declare they all identifies as Britons and, thus, are allegible to move to UK right now. What will Ambassador tell them?

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4 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

Who is the 'wokester" here?

 

Woke went too far some time ago but then so did your beloved putin.

Well, you use woke logic, then you should be a wokester.

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7 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Thank you for clarification! Could you please explain this concept for me, barbaric Russian, in simple examples, please?

     For example, let's imagine the group of, let's say, 100 Pakistan locals turn up at the gates of UK Embasy in Karachi and declare they all identifies as Britons and, thus, are allegible to move to UK right now. What will Ambassador tell them?

Do they have UK passports?  The Ukrainians have had Ukrainian passports for a while now.  Even your Russian officer example had one.  That he CHOSE to become Russain was HIS choice.

6 hours ago, sunday said:

Well, you use woke logic, then you should be a wokester.

What a load.  You wanting Russia to be sovereign, does that make you a 'wokester'.  Chucking that around like some kind of epithet means you are pointing three fingers at yourself.  Woke?  No, just an observation.

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4 minutes ago, Mike1158 said:

Do they have UK passports?  The Ukrainians have had Ukrainian passports for a while now.  Even your Russian officer example had one.  That he CHOSE to become Russain was HIS choice.

I'm sorry but having passport (=formal citizenship) got very little if anything to do with "identification" you started with. By the way how about people who have both RF and Ukr passports? My late father-in-law had both, for example. Or what about Saakashvilli of Geporgia - is he Georgian or Ukrainian?

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2 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

Woke?  No, just an observation.

Yes, a woke observation.

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"The desire of commanders to declare success as soon as possible, sometimes even before success itself, is not a disease of commanders. This is a symptom of a disease that has affected not only the army, but also other law enforcement agencies. This disease is called "Inherent result". A bunch of scoundrels are building a career on successfully stealing other people's results and promptly reporting to their management. If they can't steal, they try to at least pretend it was joint work. 

"In interaction" "Together" "In a coordinating role." "With active assistance." All these formulations often mean one thing: someone was working, and someone was carving a nose, voluptuously anticipating how he would report this result to the top. Sometimes they even come: "Guys, get into the situation... Report we were taking part." Well, how not to meet halfway. And then it turns out that according to the reports, they worked out, and we just stood next to them and gave maximum advice from around the corner.

So the commanders have to post success. Because while their fighters were shedding blood, a crowd of jackals were dancing nearby, waiting for a report to be sent: "This is us! Us!" and receive an undeserved reward. And then such figures grow into big bosses and face the fact that now there is no one to steal results from, they have to deliver them themself. And they are not adapted. This is one of the elements of pale infirmity, organizational impotence, and fear of taking responsibility that plague the public administration system. And then everyone wonders where impotent managers come from. That's where they come from." https://t.me/pgubarev/1223

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"By the way, do you remember in the winter of 2024, Russia was literally dying in communal hell?

Every emigrant and Ukrainian information dumpster considered it their duty to write that the country's housing and communal services system was collapsing, caused by the mobilization and withdrawal of funding in favor of SVO, and that it would only get worse, everything was rotten, everything was plundered, Russians were thrown into the 19th century.

I haven't heard anything about it this year. It turns out that it didn't take off then, and the budgets for continuing to escalate the panic simply weren't allocated, so the utilities of the Russian Federation unexpectedly got in order this year." https://t.me/istrkalkglk/5929

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On 3/11/2025 at 1:10 PM, Roman Alymov said:

so the utilities of the Russian Federation unexpectedly got in order this year."

And what does the Russian press say?

 

In Russia there are still emergency shutdowns of the heating and water supply
25.01.2025

...

... Samara ...  Barnaul ... Perm...  Taganrog ...  Another municipal accident occurred in Nizhni Tagil. Thousands of Saratovs have been without hot water and heating for over a day.
...
This is what the constant news current looks like about supply accidents across the country that pass almost every day. The reason for the high accident rate is chronic underfunding and excessive wear and tear of the infrastructure. The country's water supply networks alone are 75 % in poor condition and a fifth of the water withdrawal and preparation systems must be replaced ... . The situation is not better in the heating networks.
...

https://www.ng.ru/economics/2025-01-20/2_9174_russia.html

and:

And it doesn't look like there are fundamental changes in Russia:

July 2024 . The expert added that the accumulated problems had achieved such a scale that it was unlikely without fundamental changes ... the current trend towards the age of the infrastructure and the increasing inefficiency of resources could be reversed.

https://sber.pro/publication/teplovie-seti-v-rossii-kompleksnii-podhod-k-modernizatsii/

 

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51 minutes ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

And what does the Russian press say?

  Russian press say what free press shoud say: indicating the problems. No doubt problems do exist (and will continue to exist) - but there is no prospect of them resulting in some sort of catastrophy as West hope. Troubles happen fron time to time (see bridge rammed by ship in US, that will take years to repair, or recent fires) - but nobody is saying it will somehow result in US collapse. Why should Russia be any different?

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I suppose this goes here. (-=Link=-)

 

A court in Finland found a Russian paramilitary fighter guilty of war crimes committed during Russia’s first invasion of Ukraine, sentencing him to life in prison on Friday.

Voislav Torden, a Russian citizen who also goes by the name Yan Petrovskiy, was charged with committing war crimes for leading an ambush on Ukrainian soldiers in 2014, when Russian-backed forces first invaded Ukraine’s eastern front, according to the court ruling.

It was the first time a court in Finland presided over a case involving an alleged international war crime committed during the conflict in Ukraine, and a rare instance of a conviction for war crimes carried out when Russian forces first crossed into Ukraine more than a decade ago. In 2022, a United Nations-led commission of inquiry concluded that Russian forces had committed widespread atrocities in eastern Ukraine.

Mr. Torden had pleaded not guilty to five counts of committing war crimes, but a panel of three judges unanimously found him guilty of leading the ambush, murder, mutilation and distributing harmful images online. He was acquitted of a charge linked to planning the ambush because of insufficient evidence, the court said in its ruling.

 
 

Mr. Torden was a leader of Rusich, a neo-Nazi militia group that fought alongside Russia’s military and is associated with Wagner, the Russian private military company, according to the United States government. He and other members of the militia had been sanctioned by the United States, as well as the European Union and other allied countries.

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It's funny to watch the ruling elite of the Russian Federation squirm in an attempt to please both their Western masters and public opinion inside Russia. Immediately after Putin's telephone conversation with Trump, Moscow city services hurried to remove the letters Z, V, O, which stood in front of the US Embassy block in central Moscow, only to return them to their place a few hours later, after public outcry in Telegram......

https://t.me/donbass_skripnik/21044

https://t.me/donbass_skripnik/21045

Official explanation from Foreign affairs ministry spokeswoman (!) is "Thet were replacing light bulbs" Захарова объяснила демонтаж букв ZVO перед посольством США

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"Look how interesting it is: schools in the Sverdlovsk region are buying dummy grenades (RGS and RGN) and mock-ups of Kalashnikov assault rifles for lessons on "Fundamentals of Security and Defense of the Motherland," as well as a large list of tools for "Technology."

In addition, first aid simulators, wound simulators, first-aid kits, tourniquets, and household dosimeters-radiometers will be purchased.

Judging by the purchase of Technology lessons, full-fledged labor lessons will be returned to the Sverdlovsk region, where girls will sew and cook, and boys will handcraft things.

This is interesting for two reasons. 

First, there would be no SVR, and children would continue to be raised in the middle gender or in the middle role, rather than in male and female roles. 

Secondly, it should also be interesting for Europeans, whose authorities have been saying for 3 years that Russia may launch aggression against Europe. She couldn't, and she probably can't even now, because the boys had and still have other interests. But soon the interests may change, and after a high-quality immersion in the military profession, many will want to join the service specifically for the war. In other words, the European authorities themselves are to blame for the fact that a new round of militarization has begun in Russia. 

But this is all good and useful for Russia, because we would have a very sad fate if we continued to follow the path that liberals and agents of foreign states in the Russian government had laid out for us."

https://t.me/Alekhin_Telega/13363

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16 minutes ago, Pavel Novak said:

Don't worry for sure somebody will wholeheartedly explain that this is not ethnic cleansing.

I'm affraid you are misquided by translation  - as it is not about "Ukrainians" but about "citizens of Ukraine". In fact it is boring 7-page document ( Указ Президента Российской Федерации от 20.03.2025 № 159 ∙ Официальное опубликование правовых актов ) full of details about worplace regulations, healthcare etc. but general sence, as far as i understand it, is that citizens of Ukraine who are staying in Russia without any legal status, should register for temporary/permanent resident status or apply to Russian citizenship or just leave without any legal consequences. Effectively, from September 10, 2025 they will be treated like any other citizen of other country living in Russia. 

    By the same decree, Rus Ministry of Interior is directly prohibeted from taking any legal measures against this citizens of Ukraine if they volunterally turn up for registration etc.

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P.S. Most likely, all this bureoucratic games are linked to general tightening of migrant regulations in Russia (as illegal migration. especially from Central Asia, is the second most discussed topic in Russia, sometimes even first one when another "loud case" happen. There is hardly possible to deal with illegal Uzbek migrants if they could buy Ukraine passport and stay for indefinite time.....

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1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

I'm affraid you are misquided by translation  - as it is not about "Ukrainians" but about "citizens of Ukraine". In fact it is boring 7-page document ( Указ Президента Российской Федерации от 20.03.2025 № 159 ∙ Официальное опубликование правовых актов ) full of details about worplace regulations, healthcare etc. but general sence, as far as i understand it, is that citizens of Ukraine who are staying in Russia without any legal status, should register for temporary/permanent resident status or apply to Russian citizenship or just leave without any legal consequences. Effectively, from September 10, 2025 they will be treated like any other citizen of other country living in Russia. 

    By the same decree, Rus Ministry of Interior is directly prohibeted from taking any legal measures against this citizens of Ukraine if they volunterally turn up for registration etc.

 

1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said:

P.S. Most likely, all this bureoucratic games are linked to general tightening of migrant regulations in Russia (as illegal migration. especially from Central Asia, is the second most discussed topic in Russia, sometimes even first one when another "loud case" happen. There is hardly possible to deal with illegal Uzbek migrants if they could buy Ukraine passport and stay for indefinite time.....

What with citizens of Ukraine who simply wake up one day and without even single step outside of bed ended in different state? State which now requires them to leave their place. Sure you could say that they can stop be Ukrainian but that is definition od ethnic cleansing.

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43 minutes ago, Pavel Novak said:

 

What with citizens of Ukraine who simply wake up one day and without even single step outside of bed ended in different state? State which now requires them to leave their place. Sure you could say that they can stop be Ukrainian but that is definition od ethnic cleansing.

Practice shows, that even pro-Ukrainian activists and politicians in Crimea rushed to take Russian passports (because it was giving them extra financial benefits) while some of them retaining secretly or not secretly their Ukraine passports. My late father-in-law was holding both passports   - residing most of time in his native Kremenchug (Poltava region) while recieving his significant pension (Moscow+Arctic+miner bonus payments) and from time to time coming to Moscow to use local healthcare and have his free trip to the sanatorium (as Arctic miner with 20+ years of Norilsk, he got the right to have them for free, including travel costs)  According to Ukr own data, from Mariupol alone ~150k former citizes of Ukraine who fled in 2022 in Western Ukraine or Europe are now back to their homes. 

   If despite of all this the person is willing to stay in foreigner sgtatus in Russia - ok, it is up to him, there is a proicess for that. Sorry but i do not remember anybody was coincerned about tens of millions of Russians of all ethnic backgrounds who woke up in foreign states in 1991 "without even single step outside of bed". 

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On 3/21/2025 at 12:33 AM, Pavel Novak said:

 

P.S. Another version from Alexey Arestovich: according to him, this steps to list all Ukr Citizens in Russia (or to return them to what is left of Ukraine) is part of US-RF deal to arrange Presidential elections in Ukraine this autumn. This people are voters.....  

 

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45 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

P.S. Another version from Alexey Arestovich: according to him, this steps to list all Ukr Citizens in Russia (or to return them to what is left of Ukraine) is part of US-RF deal to arrange Presidential elections in Ukraine this autumn. This people are voters.....  

 

I understand. It is logical from russian point of view. But it is still population removal. Like in Czechoslovakia 1945+ and it is still ethnic cleansing.

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45 minutes ago, Pavel Novak said:

I understand. It is logical from russian point of view. But it is still population removal. Like in Czechoslovakia 1945+ and it is still ethnic cleansing.

Not "population" but "part of population who are unvilling to register for permanent/temporary resident status or apply for citizenship". 

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