The Kremlin is burning?

[JWB]

 

[JWB]

 

[Roman Alymov]

20 hours ago, JWB said:

 

As always, everything signed "Anton Gerashchenko" is to be taken with massive load of salt. In this particular case, the person (Lonstantin Bolyshansky, 35, IT specialist who is also the son of his Mediasystem Group company owner and former member of Russia's skateboarding team) was attacked by his coworker, Andrey Demin, 34, who was familiar with him for almost 20 years (as he was also skateboarder). 3 hours later Demin was chased and injured by police, claimed it was "because of love" when loaded to ambulance. Seems like another story of rich and successful guy hated by strange guy found of "survival" (attacker's backpack was loaded with cammo closing, at least three toorniquets, rations, big knife and even binoculas - while attack was in the middle of the city).

[Josh]

On 6/2/2024 at 11:11 AM, glenn239 said:

There's that, but another factor I think is at play.  The Chinese do not want Russian nuclear weapons to bark under any circumstances, and if the situation moves in this direction, the Chinese may decide to increase their support of Russia as an alternative to it.

That would amount to nuclear blackmail in reverse. I cannot imagine Xi would be a fan of yielding Chinese foreign policy to Russian nuclear bluster, particularly when he could just as easily hurt the Russia economy and war effort in retaliation to any Russian nuclear move. The Russians are the junior partner in the relationship, and China will not threaten its own economic well being for them. 

[Stuart Galbraith]

23 hours ago, JWB said:

 

Is good news! Fill Prisons, fill they Army! Much win, yes?

[JWB]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/23/armed-crime-on-the-rise-in-russia-a79473

[glenn239]

1 hour ago, Josh said:

That would amount to nuclear blackmail in reverse. I cannot imagine Xi would be a fan of yielding Chinese foreign policy to Russian nuclear bluster, particularly when he could just as easily hurt the Russia economy and war effort in retaliation to any Russian nuclear move. The Russians are the junior partner in the relationship, and China will not threaten its own economic well being for them. 

History has examples of the weaker partner leveraging the stronger partner.  The threat is always that if the stronger partner does not act, the weak one will collapse and make things much worse.  That's why the Germans marched in 1914, and in 1940 the Germans again discovered this with the Italians.

[mkenny]

2 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Is good news! Fill Prisons, fill they Army! Much win, yes?

As far as I am aware The British Army is the only western one that allows convicted murderers (4 in total) back into the ranks after they finish their sentence

[Stuart Galbraith]

17 minutes ago, mkenny said:

As far as I am aware The British Army is the only western one that allows convicted murderers (4 in total) back into the ranks after they finish their sentence

You heard of the French Foreign legion, right? Dien Blen Phu was full of ex Waffen SS Troopers, many of them on the run for war crimes. US Special Forces even had an SS trooper of their own, convicted of Treason in Finland for fighting for Germany, killed in the Vietnam war. He is buried in Arlington Cemetary now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Törni

[Mike1158]

As far as I know, allowing murderers into the British army ended with WW1.

[Josh]

2 hours ago, glenn239 said:

History has examples of the weaker partner leveraging the stronger partner.  The threat is always that if the stronger partner does not act, the weak one will collapse and make things much worse.  That's why the Germans marched in 1914, and in 1940 the Germans again discovered this with the Italians.

In this case there is little to no possibility of collapse, given that Russia is a nuclear state.

[mkenny]

1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

You heard of the French Foreign legion, right? Dien Blen Phu was full of ex Waffen SS Troopers, many of them on the run for war crimes. US Special Forces even had an SS trooper of their own, convicted of Treason in Finland for fighting for Germany, killed in the Vietnam war. He is buried in Arlington Cemetary now.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_Törni

Very interesting. Now which other Western nation allows convicted murderers to serve in its armed forces?

[Stuart Galbraith]

Nazi Germany? Russia certainly has.

Forgive me, if you are trying to play the 'Britain is bad' card, im bored. You would be hard pressed to match the cases where Paedophiles are released from custody, fight for 6 months, then are released home to public aclaim as heroes. Such has occurred in Russia.

 

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

12 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

As far as I know, allowing murderers into the British army ended with WW1.

Ive not heard of it since either. Frankly, I have to doubt it.

[mkenny]

4 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

You would be hard pressed to match the cases where Paedophiles are released from custody, fight for 6 months, then are released home to public aclaim as heroes. Such has occurred in Russia.

 

Not hard pressed at all.  4 Murderers were allowed back into the British Army after their convictions.

[glenn239]

20 hours ago, Josh said:

In this case there is little to no possibility of collapse, given that Russia is a nuclear state.

The Soviet Union would be quite surprised to discover it did not collapse, being a nuclear state and all.

[Josh]

3 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

The Soviet Union would be quite surprised to discover it did not collapse, being a nuclear state and all.

I meant a military collapse. If Russia is that political unstable, nothing China does matters anyway.

[Mike1158]

Perhaps there is a factual basis for a claim of murderers being allowed into the British army?  Never heard of it since WW1 and frankly doubt the voracity of such a claim.

[mkenny]

25 minutes ago, Mike1158 said:

Perhaps there is a factual basis for a claim of murderers being allowed into the British army?  Never heard of it since WW1 and frankly doubt the voracity of such a claim.

You can doubt it all you want that wont change the fact it is true.

I am astonished that none of the doubters appear to know how to use Google.

Nelsonian blind eye in action?

[Stuart Galbraith]

Ok, so show us a link then. Show us the light Kenny, that we may learn from our transgressions!

[mkenny]

On 6/9/2024 at 8:10 AM, Stuart Galbraith said:

Ok, so show us a link then. Show us the light Kenny, that we may learn from our transgressions!

Starter for 10

 

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/12/15/British-soldier-sentenced-to-life/1189471934800/

[Stefan Kotsch]

2 hours ago, mkenny said:

Starter for 10

Zero points.

The man LEFT the army as a murderer.

[mkenny]

7 minutes ago, Stefan Kotsch said:

Zero points.

The man LEFT the army as a murderer.

 I had hoped you would check out what happened to him but again because you did not want to know you did not bother looking. 

He was ALLOWED BACK into the Army as a convicted murderer. 

Caution to others who can not face reality. I am just talking about British soldiers who were convicted of murder ON DUTY and then allowed back into The Army. 

 

Edited June 10, 2024 by mkenny

[Josh]

This discussion seems a touch pointless. Maybe the UK government employs convicted murderers. We know for a fact Russia mobilized thousands of convicted murders.

 

i do not think either of these items are relevant, personally.

[Roman Alymov]

New Rus Minister of Defence met with war bloggers and reporters yesterday

Pro-Rus TG is full of anger, as "pool" of people invited are all "guardian" "ass-lickers" indicating no real change in MoD policy afther Shoigu have left (not surprising at all).