The Kremlin is burning?

[MiGG0]

12 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

The Russian leadership has demonstrated an aggressive posture towards its neighbors, its top leadership has already, and repeatedly announced its aggressive intent towards other nations, including NATO members, and the Russian leadership has made irrational decisions with grave consequences. The Russian leadership has also hinted that it would not be averse to nuclear blackmail.

A lot of Putin mind readers told me in 2021 that he would never attack Ukraine. I just said that I didn't know what was going on in his head, but that he had accumulated the capacity for military action at the Ukrainian border. I try to focus on capabilities rather than predict intent because intentions are inherently unknowable and may change quickly. The people who were wrong bback then tell me now that Putin would never do something stupid. Either these people are terminally stupid themselves for clinging to a theory that has imploded in late February '22, or they choose to be the useful idiots to Putin.

Either way, their opinions are entirely irrelevant. It is prudent to do whatever it takes to contain this dangerous nation while its current leadership is in place. Right now the Russian leaders and their propagandists seem to demand that they be treated as anything but a normal nation. For once I am inclined to take their word; they are dangerous and erratic, and therefore we need to prepare ourselves accordingly.

Totally agree that Europe needs to prepare. Question is not about that tough.

 

It is why logically RUS would do it? There really is no good reason and thats why it is very unlikely scenario. Neverthrless here we have  western leaders (and Sardaukar) that ramble like it is sure to happen.

Edited May 30, 2024 by MiGG0

[Sardaukar]

It's amusing how these people try to desperately prove that Russia is right.

And especially why we should not intervene.

Cui bono?

[Sardaukar]

3 minutes ago, MiGG0 said:

Totally agree that Europe needs to prepare. Question is not about that tough.

 

It is why logically RUS would do it? There really is no good reason and thats why it is very unlikely scenario. Neverthrless here we have  western lehdet (and Sardaukar) that ramble like it is sure to happen.

You have seen how reasonable Putin is.

And still refuse to see what he is.

Cui Bono?

Why you refuse to see, unless it's for personal benefit?

Edited May 30, 2024 by Sardaukar

[MiGG0]

9 minutes ago, Sardaukar said:

So you cannot google but expect me to educate you.

OK.

https://www.marshallcenter.org/en/publications/security-insights/baltic-states-targets-and-levers-role-region-russian-strategy-0

Even from 2019. But blind cannot see.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-preparing-military-confrontation-with-west-says-estonia-2024-02-13/

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-why-the-baltic-states-on-natos-frontline-with-russia-are-urging-their-allies-to-wake-up-13084332

Google yourself and watch the hybrid war.

Either you are a troll or worse...appeaser.

Fast read those. Not single reason why RUS would start war which it would lose. More of strateg goals.

Edited May 30, 2024 by MiGG0

[MiGG0]

Just now, Sardaukar said:

You have seen how reasonable Putin is.

And still refuse to see what he is.

No, but pure Logic says he would not do it. Even dictators wont play when they know in certain they would lose.

[Sardaukar]

1 minute ago, MiGG0 said:

Fast read those. Not single reason why RUS would start war which it would lise. More of strateg goals.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/21b82d0a-0ba5-4f7a-9dbc-c36a127a2b90

https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000010368230.html

https://yle.fi/a/74-20068549

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/danish-defence-minister-warns-russia-could-attack-nato-3-5-years-media-2024-02-09/

I bet you have seen these...and you still don't believe.

Makes me wonder about your motives and what you think to achieve.

[Sardaukar]

2 minutes ago, MiGG0 said:

No, but pure Logic says he would not do it. Even dictators wont play when they know in certain they would lose.

Yea, he invaded Georgia, annexed Crimea, invaded UKR.

How about THAT for pure logic?

[MiGG0]

Just now, Sardaukar said:

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/21b82d0a-0ba5-4f7a-9dbc-c36a127a2b90

https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000010368230.html

https://yle.fi/a/74-20068549

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/danish-defence-minister-warns-russia-could-attack-nato-3-5-years-media-2024-02-09/

I bet you have seen these...and you still don't believe.

Makes me wonder about your motives and what you think to achieve.

Yes, I have but all those repeat same mantra. ”RUS could”, ”It is possible”, etc. But dont explain WHY RUS would do it if would lose? It simple question, but seems to pretty hard to get andwer. 

[MiGG0]

2 minutes ago, Sardaukar said:

Yea, he invaded Georgia, annexed Crimea, invaded UKR.

How about THAT for pure logic?

Fits nicely in it. All were targets that RUS would/could win. NATO is totally different.

[Sardaukar]

Just now, MiGG0 said:

Yes, I have but all those repeat same mantra. ”RUS could”, ”It is possible”, etc. But dont explain WHY RUS would do it if would lose? It simple question, but seems to pretty hard to get andwer. 

So you put you head in sand again.

I think you have an agenda, is it because you cannot get cheap gas from Russia?

Seems pretty difficult to get inside Putler's head. You seem to think he thinks rationally.

Vestigia terrent.

 

[Sardaukar]

2 minutes ago, MiGG0 said:

Fits nicely in it. All were targets that RUS would/could win. NATO is totally different.

As rational as Hitler to declare war on USA.

He actually declared war on USA.... It's hubris and thinking he can win, same as Putler says all the time.

 

[MiGG0]

1 minute ago, Sardaukar said:

So you put you head in sand again.

I think you have an agenda, is it because you cannot get cheap gas from Russia?

Seems pretty difficult to get inside Putler's head. You seem to think he thinks rationally.

Vestigia terrent.

 

No, im still waiting good reason for RUS to do it. You still have failed to provide any.

 

And Im drving electric car. No need for fossils 🙂 

[Sardaukar]

1 minute ago, MiGG0 said:

No, im still waiting good reason for RUS to do it. You still have failed to provide any.

 

And Im drving electric car. No need for fossils 🙂 

You have followed news since 2008 and need good reason why Putler does things.... I presume you have followed news...

Head-in-sand. 

[MiGG0]

7 minutes ago, Sardaukar said:

As rational as Hitler to declare war on USA.

He actually declared war on USA.... It's hubris and thinking he can win, same as Putler says all the time.

 

That point he was losing anyway, so nothing to lose. Which again is totally different for RUS… they would not gain anything. Only lose.

Edited May 30, 2024 by MiGG0

[MiGG0]

Just now, Sardaukar said:

You have followed news since 2008 and need good reason why Putler does things.... I presume you have followed news...

Head-in-sand. 

No Putler, RUS. And they do follow certain locig, but as you are blind, I can accept it is hard to see.

[Sardaukar]

1 minute ago, MiGG0 said:

That point he was losing anyway, so nothing to lose. Which again is totally different fto. RUS… they would not gain anything. Only lose.

Actually, Dec 1941 Germany was not yet losing.

Read history and especially military history. Without USA, things might have gotten bit different.

 

[Sardaukar]

1 minute ago, MiGG0 said:

No Putler, RUS. And they do follow certain locig, but as you are blind, I can accept it is hard to see.

So you kind of try to separate RUS from Putin? Who basically is now a dictator...

In what reality you live?

[MiGG0]

Just now, Sardaukar said:

Actually, Dec 1941 Germany was not yet losing.

Read history and especially military history. Without USA, things might have gotten bit different.

 

It actually was as USA was already supplying Britain/USSR. That USA entered war fastenef things considerably.

[MiGG0]

1 minute ago, Sardaukar said:

So you kind of try to separate RUS from Putin? Who basically is now a dictator...

In what reality you live?

It is separate. RUS even have opposition (altought very dangerous to be one). But again you are blind..

[mkenny]

33 minutes ago, Sardaukar said:

And?

Obfuscation in best Russian style.

 

You did not know about Hungary and Poland being German partners -in-crime and thus are forced to make light of it.    Do you think  The UK should have declared war on Poland and Hungary?

The point (which I know you don't want to hear) is they were all as bad as each other. You may prefer western duplicity but its still duplicity.

Edited May 30, 2024 by mkenny

[Sardaukar]

1 minute ago, MiGG0 said:

It actually was as USA was already supplying Britain/USSR. That USA entered war fastenef things considerably.

USA had not decided supplying USSR until October 1941 and deliveries didn't start immediately. 

Get your facts straight.

Britain yes, but USSR lend lease started later, effectively only late 1942. 

[Sardaukar]

2 minutes ago, mkenny said:

You did not know about Hungary and Poland being German partners -in-crime and thus are forced to make light of it.    Do you think  The UK should have declared war on Poland and Hungary?

The point (which I know you don't want to hear) is they were all as bad as each other. You may prefer western duplicity but its still duplicity.

Of course I knew.

You are just making it their fault. 

Western duplicity? Tells everything about where you are from. How's it in Russia, comrade?

[MiGG0]

Just now, Sardaukar said:

USA had not decided supplying USSR until October 1941 and deliveries didn't start immediately. 

Get your facts straight.

Britain yes, but USSR lend lease started later, effectively only late 1942. 

So my fact were right and you call to me ”get my facts right” 😁

 

It does not matter that equipment were not USSR yet. Decision that sealed Germany fait has been already done.

Really, you sound like 10y old when arguing… hard to believe that you are FDF officer

[mkenny]

4 minutes ago, Sardaukar said:

Of course I knew.

 

I believe you..............I really really do.........honest I do.........

[Sardaukar]

Just now, MiGG0 said:

So my fact were right and you call to me ”get my facts right” 😁

 

It does not matter that equipment were not USSR yet. Decision that sealed Germany fait has been already done.

Really, you sound like 10y old when arguing… hard to believe that you are FDF officer

What is wrong with you and this child-thing? And personal attacks? 

Feeling bad about you trying growing a pair? 

And yes, Oct 41 didn't matter since USA (Roosevelt) would have been hard-pressed to send anything significant to USSR without Germany's declaration of war.