A Peace Settlement to the Ukraine War

[Sinistar]

5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

My objection is largely at the insistence that they must export this mindset, to Ukraine, to Eastern Europe, and then as far afield as possible, even to America. At which point, in my humble opinion at least, they can go fuck themselves.

 

 

it is like trying to reason with women

 

look at the way a eu citizen reasons

no reason in it at all

like women

 

in reality it is just the fact that DJT was elected and the eu citizens hate america

any so called reason to make up some ridiculous scenario that russia is about to invade the united states 

 

remember these people cannot even get their own movie straight

 

ukraine really wins all battles and yet somehow russia is still primed for the next conquest of the western hemishphere

as if the russians have discovered a wormhole which teleports them 

 

[Stefan Kotsch]

😎

 

Edited March 14, 2025 by Stefan Kotsch

[Sinistar]

5 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

I saw an interview with several people a while ago.  They identified as Russian in Ukraine BUT, were of the opinion that with a leader like putin and his ilk, they would rather be Ukrainian.

 

Their reaoning was along the lines that Ukraine was legitimate and murder of civilians as a mitary and political tactic was abhorrent and unacceptable.

 

They identified as Russian.  So too do those in Russia protesting the war.  The polotical opponants of putin too.

 

To suggest only those of us in the west have an issue with the puitin regime and their war is disingenuous and demonstrates a complete lack of logic.

 

you see the daily and weekly video of ukrainian men kidnapped off the street against their wills and gangpressed into the hamburger units on the front line with reports of as little as a week's worth of basic training 

 

presumably you are ok with that among other symptoms of the war

i.e., zelensky's regime stealing the huge sums of money sent over and pocketing it for themselves

locking up or murdering political prisoners

 

 

in reality ukraine is as every bit as dirty or corrupt as russia is

sometimes better

sometimes worse

therefore these anecdotes are basically whatever perspective you think is acceptable

and therefore i think the united staets which is really the main force determining the strategy of this proxy war

which is what this really is

using ukraine as a battering ram to do it with virtually no concern over the actual lives of ukraine as they are merely a tool

and to watch humanists in the eu ignore all that

is quite telling

 

 

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How the mighty are fallen, what a bloody shame and waste of potential.

 

i sent my woke legions to disrupt your eu from within

next i sent my russians to deliver the coop de grasie as you trip over yourselves with what just happened

 

muahahahaha

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[Roman Alymov]

On 3/11/2025 at 10:58 PM, Roman Alymov said:

Yes exactly, he is making fun of those "guardians" who yesterday were writing about "our Trump" and now will struggle to get the new wind. Note how it is working on opposite side: Trumputler->trumputler->Trump

 

And new circle, trumputler again

[Roman Alymov]

IGOR STRELKOV: ON THE LIKELIHOOD OF MOSCOW AGREEING TO A 30-DAY "TRUCE"

As for the situation with the "Trump-world", I admit the option that Moscow will be forced to agree to a 30-day truce, but this, of course, will not give us anything (except for shelling, sabotage, provocations, etc.), since then we will inevitably be "rolled out" demanding the following concessions based on the already notorious "Kellogg plan." 

And as a result, not being ready to capitulate to our "partners", we will be forced to resume military operations (if they actually stop at all), but we will face a significant strengthening of the enemy front in all directions, where the enemy is now relatively vulnerable and unstable. 

And then, of course, we will be "accused of disrupting the peace process" (however, we will still be accused of this, no matter what we do or don't do). The Ukrainians will receive new tranches and weapons, and we will receive enhanced sanctions. And once again, we will return to the inescapable dilemma of "you cannot capitulate to war." And so on – I don't even want to repeat myself. 

If Moscow does not agree to a 30-day truce, then all of the above will happen a month earlier, but the "dear partners" will have no reason to suspect that Moscow is "bending and about to bend" and, therefore, will be somewhat more cautious and not as arrogant as in the first case. There will be fewer, for example, pirate arrests of ships with our cargoes, blockades, etc.

But I am now cautiously estimating the probability of agreeing to a 30-day "truce" as "7 to 3" (in favor of agreement). Let's see how much I "guess" the moral state of the Kremlin inhabitants.… We are watching and waiting…

Yours sincerely, I.V. Girkin 12.03.2025    https://t.me/strelkovii/7000

[glenn239]

7 to 3?   Strelkov is a clown, wants to play both sides of the fence.  He adds the '3' because if he states that Putin the surrender monkey WILL do a ceasefire on orders from the West, and then Putin does not do that, he'll lose face in Russia with his followers.   The '3' allows him to pull some nonsense out of his ass later on why Putin wants to surrender but didn't agree to a ceasefire. 

Edited March 16, 2025 by glenn239

[Roman Alymov]

49 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

7 to 3?   Strelkov is a clown, wants to play both sides of the fence.  He adds the '3' because if he states that Putin the surrender monkey WILL do a ceasefire on orders from the West, and then Putin does not do that, he'll lose face in Russia with his followers.   The '3' allows him to pull some nonsense out of his ass later on why Putin wants to surrender but didn't agree to a ceasefire. 

  You may not like him. but his opinion is shared by many people on the ground who know situation well.

[urbanoid]

I miss cellar debates (and monologues).  Only memes and an occasional telegram post remain now. 

Edited March 16, 2025 by urbanoid

[Stuart Galbraith]

Seems the excuse for not adopting a ceasefire has been found.

https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1901272893398417440?t=JRJkV1lmTSevsKog3uKsOg&s=19

[glenn239]

5 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

  You may not like him. but his opinion is shared by many people on the ground who know situation well.

His opinions are shared by Russians that do not understand anything about the West, but are looking for an excuse to start a Russian civil war.

[Roman Alymov]

10 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

His opinions are shared by Russians that do not understand anything about the West, but are looking for an excuse to start a Russian civil war.

Russian civil war is long since in process. Re " do not understand anything about the West" - actually Strelkov is openly admitting he knows little about West. But he is well aware of situation in Russia, and his analysys is mostly focused on internal Russian affairs.

[Roman Alymov]

"Yuri Kirovchanin.
IN SHORT 
I don't understand: we haven't defeated the Ukrainian Armed Forces, we haven't captured the territories we claim, why would the enemy suddenly surrender, disarm and withdraw from the uncaptured lands (these are our demands)? The enemy does not even have unrest in the rear, not to mention hunger and despair, and he is still insensitive to losses. 
After all, wars are fought in order to defeat, capture, demoralize, destroy, and if this is not the case, then what are our maximalist demands based on? 
The only threat is that we will fight like this for years and finish off Ukraine "in the future" - and here Trump suggests stopping, knocking out our only trump card we have. And what will we be left with if we agree? With the hope that the peace will do away with Ukraine more effectively than war? We already hoped so much for it  in 2014-2022. 
The situation is apocalyptic: an unfinished boar is nearby on a scale of 1:1000000, or a repetition of the story of the Crimean Khanate, which we have been finishing off for a hundred years." https://t.me/donbass_skripnik/21004

   

[seahawk]

Stopping the war, would be surrender to the West and the West must not be trusted.

[RETAC21]

On 3/17/2025 at 2:20 PM, seahawk said:

Stopping the war, would be surrender to the West and the West must not be trusted.

It seems that Putin didn't fell for Trump's trap!

https://x.com/maxseddon/status/1902063583309222114

[seahawk]

Good news. Now the US can recognize the Ukraine as Russian.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Good news, they are going to exchange hockey matches!

This is bullshit.

[jordan8445]

21 minutes ago, seahawk said:

Good news. Now the US can recognize the Ukraine as Russian.

Perhaps now there will be no more Odessa fire massacres, where Ukrainians, including Ukrainian police, round up people based on their ethnicity into buildings and burn them alive.  Then bitch and whine about being invaded as a result, begging-bowl in hand.

[jordan8445]

On 3/12/2025 at 7:20 PM, Stefan Kotsch said:

That is the old Russian problem. It can solve difficulties only with pure violence. What is the slogan of in Russia. Russia has only two allys. The army and the fleet. This attempt has not changed since 1917.

And apart from that. How the conquest of Ukraine will change the problem of Russia: 'Zero and Nothing'

Wouldn't it be time to rethink?

I think you'll find your beloved leftist NATO/affiliates has out-violenced Russia.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Apparently Russian missiles are already impacting Kyiv.

[Mike1158]

And this is news, how?

If Russia wants peace the solution is obvious.

 

Thay they cannot see it surprises me not one bit.

 

Well, when they are struggling to fight in the east while watching the west, I hope they remember they had a choice.  Not something the rest of us have, and I include Ukraine and the Baltics/Poland etc.

 

I was actually responding to an earlier post but got distracted by wildlife outside, sorry folks, they needed some vittles.

Edited March 18, 2025 by Mike1158

[seahawk]

11 hours ago, jordan8445 said:

Perhaps now there will be no more Odessa fire massacres, where Ukrainians, including Ukrainian police, round up people based on their ethnicity into buildings and burn them alive.  Then bitch and whine about being invaded as a result, begging-bowl in hand.

The process of denazification will be long, but it has to be done. Those responsible for crimes against Russians will have to be dealt with.

[Stuart Galbraith]

11 hours ago, Mike1158 said:

And this is news, how?

If Russia wants peace the solution is obvious.

 

Thay they cannot see it surprises me not one bit.

 

Well, when they are struggling to fight in the east while watching the west, I hope they remember they had a choice.  Not something the rest of us have, and I include Ukraine and the Baltics/Poland etc.

 

I was actually responding to an earlier post but got distracted by wildlife outside, sorry folks, they needed some vittles.

Its news because the sole area Putin seemed to be interested was restricting the use of long range missile attacks. And an hour later makes one himself.

[Roman Alymov]

"The Hurried Official effect

The letters ZVO near the US Embassy in Moscow were returned to their original place. 

They were removed yesterday immediately after the conversation between Putin and Trump. 

I was just passing by. He laughed sadly.

And today they are already standing again.

They explained to the people that they had been removed to wash them.

No, of course not.

Some of our bosses are in such a hurry to make peace with the United States that they jump out of their pants.

If you let them go, they'd chalk up "Oh, love you, Trump!"

But they were not given the will and were told to return the letters to their place at night.

...however, the effect of the efforts of these figures is not limited to letters alone. They will try to do about the same thing in all directions. It's just that everyone can see what they're doing here, but unfortunately not in other places." https://t.me/zakharprilepin/26299

[Mike1158]

3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Its news because the sole area Putin seemed to be interested was restricting the use of long range missile attacks. And an hour later makes one himself.

Sorry mate, as I mentioned in my edited post, I was responding to something else but fed the beasts before remembering to post the thought.