São Paulo, ex-Foch, is gone

[Markus Becker]

Artistic impression of the sinking. She was to be scrapped in Turkey but she wasn't allowed in due to hazmat inside her. For the same reason the Brazillians didn't want to deal with her at home, so down she went in international waters.

[Daan]

Like people throwing their Mc Donalds garbage out of their cars onto the streets. The tragedy of the commons. Brazil simply did not want to pay for an appropriate disposal that dealt with the hazardous materials on board and tried to pass it on to Turkey, which refused after protests. Its sister ship was dismantled in the UK, probably for real money, after the then owners had also tried to pass it on to some dodgy low cost company abroad (India in this case).

 

[Markus Becker]

In the bright side, even the traditional scrappers seen to get a green-ish conscience. 

[urbanoid]

Saudi company wanted to buy the hull for $6 mil.

[Angrybk]

Will always remember it getting curb stomped in Red Storm Rising and the fighters that were left aloft still trying to fight off the Backfires.

[shep854]

It could have been SINKEXed.  It would have been the best training the Brazilian Navy had experienced in decades, if ever.

[Harold Jones]

On 2/5/2023 at 1:03 PM, shep854 said:

It could have been SINKEXed.  It would have been the best training the Brazilian Navy had experienced in decades, if ever.

They didn't want to use up their torpedo.

[shep854]

8 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

They didn't want to use up their torpedo.

😁

[On the way]

Just returned from Brazil. Its all over the news there. I don't speak Portuguese. But they seem to be in a tiffy over it. In any case, I don't think their Air Force could sink it with what they have. So, any SINKEX could backfire on their armed forces.

[DB]

18 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

They didn't want to use up their torpedo.

The first thought that came to my mind.

[Mike1158]

A sinkex still requires removal of hazardous matewrials, I take it they just opened tha valves and scuttle the hull.  %ankers..

[alejandro_]

On 2/5/2023 at 12:48 PM, Daan said:

Like people throwing their Mc Donalds garbage out of their cars onto the streets. The tragedy of the commons. Brazil simply did not want to pay for an appropriate disposal that dealt with the hazardous materials on board and tried to pass it on to Turkey, which refused after protests. Its sister ship was dismantled in the UK, probably for real money, after the then owners had also tried to pass it on to some dodgy low cost company abroad (India in this case).

 

Any idea on the long term effect in the environment? At least it is not something that happens very often.

[Markus Becker]

6 minutes ago, alejandro_ said:

Any idea on the long term effect in the environment? At least it is not something that happens very often.

Zero. Not so long ago all sorts of toxic stuff was routinely dumped into the ocean. And in developing countries still is. At least the shit in her is 5k deep where there's not much sea life. 

[Markus Becker]

20 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

They didn't want to use up their torpedo.

Brazil, not Argentina. 

 

BTW, the photo you often see as the sinking Sao Paulo is actually the CV-34 USS Ori-somthing. 

Edited February 8, 2023 by Markus Becker

[Mike1158]

USS Oriaskaney I think.