Perun Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 If @Pavel Novak cant post info on STROP systems I could translate from czech and post it. But it would be better if he, as expert, could post something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 This is map of organisation of Slovenian Teritorial defense forces (TO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I counted at least 26 MiG-21f13 in 1st Air School Regiment (until 01.06.1989.). I presume that they would be used for air defense during the war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Novak Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 hours ago, Perun said: I counted at least 26 MiG-21f13 in 1st Air School Regiment (until 01.06.1989.). I presume that they would be used for air defense during the war It would be logical for them to set one or two QRA flights. They also got MiG-21MF in 1991. But so far I have not seen any information about its wartime role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 S-200 (SA-5) sites: http://bp0.blogger.com/_0HCJq6B1wZA/RqOsLngV1dI/AAAAAAAAAQo/gEfFErno8hY/s1600-h/0000969866_0007.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Interesting site, dont know where to post it https://climateviewer.org/history-and-science/government/maps/surface-to-air-missile-sites-worldwide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Interesting part on Warsaw pact states air defense readines https://www.16va.be/long_range_eng.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Stalin Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 3/8/2024 at 8:48 AM, Perun said: This is map of organisation of Slovenian Teritorial defense forces (TO) I suppose, that PSTO = provincial staff of Slovenian TO, obmSTO =Â regional staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Stalin Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 22 hours ago, Perun said: S-200 (SA-5) sites: http://bp0.blogger.com/_0HCJq6B1wZA/RqOsLngV1dI/AAAAAAAAAQo/gEfFErno8hY/s1600-h/0000969866_0007.gif Source of the map - ful document: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0000969866.pdf  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Darth Stalin said: I suppose, that PSTO = provincial staff of Slovenian TO, obmSTO =Â regional staff PÅ TO=provincial HQ TO, obmÅ TO=regional HQ TO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Stalin Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 22 hours ago, Perun said: PÅ TO=provincial HQ TO, obmÅ TO=regional HQ TO Thanks. What were the real forces of these HQs? Say, regiment per province and battalion per region? EDIT: I've found something: https://yadda.icm.edu.pl/yadda/element/bwmeta1.element.baztech-70a0d037-e9ea-4976-8661-b340ae613c85/c/14_chmielewski_slovenian_SJMULF_2021_3.pdf Edited March 15 by Darth Stalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 hours ago, Darth Stalin said: Thanks. What were the real forces of these HQs? Say, regiment per province and battalion per region? EDIT: I've found something: https://yadda.icm.edu.pl/yadda/element/bwmeta1.element.baztech-70a0d037-e9ea-4976-8661-b340ae613c85/c/14_chmielewski_slovenian_SJMULF_2021_3.pdf Sorry for waiting Here you have many good info about Slovenian (Yugoslavian) TDÂ https://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?topic=16921.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 12/8/2023 at 6:18 PM, Perun said: In my scenario, Legion was back home, guarding African territories, navy was guarding Gibraltar straits, mainly ASW role, and Atlantic convoys guard duties. I played with army and af, acording to you I was miscalculated a lot. So, what do you think would be needed to mobilise and send army and af to Italy and attack WP? In my scenario NATO had 6 months I added French forces into game. And, I suppose, Polish air defence 11. PLM would be used, at least for the Ostrava defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 23 minutes ago, Perun said: And, I suppose, Polish air defence 11. PLM would be used, at least for the Ostrava defense W 1991r. pułk posiadał na stanie 24 MiG-21 MF, 5 MiG-21 UM oraz około 4 TS-11 Iskra. https://www.samoloty.pl/historia-lotnictwa-hobby-245/historia-lotnictwa-polskiego-hobby-259/jednostki-lotnicze-w-polsce-hobby-1879/11-pusk-lotnictwa-mypliwskiego-hobby-2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Does any one have detailed, with number and type of equipment, OOB of Polish air force and air defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hurricane Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 maybe you will find this useful Perun? machine translated from Czech site here: https://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=3218 B/ AIR FORCE OF THE POLISH PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC I did not manage to find out the exact name and location of the High Command of the Polish Air Force. So let's at least look at its organizational structure, deployment and armament. 2nd fighter-bomber division, Pila deployment. Its organizational structure includes: - 6th fighter-bomber regiment, place of deployment, Pila. Armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft. It was the final version of the Su-22 export type. It was derived from the Su-17 M-4. It was powered by a Ljulka AL-21F-3 engine. - 7th bomber reconnaissance regiment Powidz Su-20/22. One squadron was armed with Su-20 R aircraft, i.e. in the reconnaissance version, and two squadrons were armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft 3rd Fighter-Bomber Division, Åšwidwin deployment - 3rd fighter-bomber regiment, stationed in Bydgoszcz. It was armed with Su-7B aircraft. It was supposed to be capable of carrying tactical nuclear weapons. It was created based on the changed requirements of the USSR Air Force in March 1956 as a fighter-bomber modification that could also carry anti-ground unguided missiles S-5, S-3K and S-24. It entered service in January 1961. It was supplied to the Soviet Army and the armies of friendly countries between 1961 and 1971.  - 8th fighter-bomber regiment, deployment Miroslawiec. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  - 40th fighter-bomber regiment, Åšwidwin deployment. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  4th fighter air division, Malbork deployment  - 2nd fighter aviation regiment, Goleniow deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft. It was a modernized MiG-21 P interceptor with a more powerful R-11F2-300 engine, 60.6 kN and a modified exit nozzle.  - 34th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Gdyni deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft  - 41st Fighter Aviation Regiment, Malbork deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 bis. He followed up on the MF version. It has a new R-25-300 engine with a thrust of 95 kN with afterburner. This engine has the same external dimensions and mounting points as the older R-11 and R-13 and can be installed in older version airframes. Less consumption of the new engine together with a larger tank capacity (2800 liters) increased the performance of the aircraft. It was equipped with modern avionics and could also carry the new R-60 short-range infrared missiles. The dorsal superstructure is larger than the MF version but smaller than the SMT version. The new RP-22 SMA SafÃr radar also allows a limited view into the lower hemisphere.  The auxiliary types of military aviation were reconnaissance, helicopter, transport and school formations:  - 32nd Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, stationed at Sochaczew-Bielice Airport. It was armed with the MiG-21 R (Rozkryvayuschij). It was constructed in the late 1960s based on the PFM version, as a special reconnaissance aircraft. The electronic equipment required for reconnaissance purposes needed additional space in the narrow fuselage, as did the fuel tanks for a larger supply of fuel. This problem was solved by the reconstruction of the dorsal superstructure. The new 340 liter fuel tank increased the capacity of the internal tanks to 2800 litres. Two more additional tanks of 490 liters each could be hung under the wings.  - 37th Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Leczyca Airport. He was armed with helicopters Mi-8T and Mi-171V  - 49th Combat Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Pruszcz-GdaÅ„ski Airport. It was armed with Mi-2 and MI-24D  - 56th Combat Helicopter Regiment, Inowroclawek Airport Mi-2 and Mi-24V deployment  - 13th Transport Aviation Regiment, Kraków deployment. He had a varied array of aircraft in his arsenal - An-2, An-12, An-26 and the veteran Il-14 military air transport  - 36th transport aviation regiment, deployment of the airport of the capital city of Warsaw. He was entrusted with the transportation for the needs of the government of the country's diplomatic corps. It was equipped with transport aircraft Tu-134, Yak-40 and Mi-8 salon.  - 45th school combat aviation regiment, Babimost deployment. It was armed with MiG-15 bis and MiG-17UT aircraft  - 47th school helicopter regiment, Nowe Miasto – Pilica airport deployment. It was equipped with Mi-2 helicopters.  - a total of four school aviation regiments. They were numbered and marked 58th, 60th, 61st, and 66th school aviation regiment. TS-1 training machines were deployed on them  In mid-1986, 41,000 soldiers served in the Air Force.  C/ AIR DEFENSE  Air defense of the state was made up of three air defense corps. It had at its disposal a wide range of means of active and passive monitoring of the airspace of the country and the surrounding area. The air force served to protect the entire airspace, while the missile forces served to protect the main political and economic centers of the country.  As with the Air Force, I was unable to find out where the Air Defense Headquarters of the Republic of Poland was located. So let's look at the dislocation of his main forces.  1st Air Defense Corps, Headquarters Warsaw. It was formed by the following forces:  - 1st Fighter Aviation Regiment, stationed at MiÅ„sk Mazowiecki Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis and MiG-29 A aircraft. The latter was originally designed for short-range air combat as a replacement for the MiG-21, MiG-23, and as an opponent of the American F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. It was supposed to serve for air defense of a small area, strategic objects and grouping of troops. Almost enough for air defense needs  - 10th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Lask Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis  - 3rd anti-aircraft brigade, dislocation around the capital city of Warsaw. She was armed with:  + stationary anti-aircraft missile complex S-75 Volchov. It was intended for the destruction of aircraft, land and sea targets. Only air targets here. The possibility of hitting within a radius of 43 kilometers and a height range of 30 kilometers.  + short-range ground-based anti-aircraft missile system designed to destroy aircraft, cruise missiles, combat helicopters and other air targets at ground, low and medium altitudes S-125 Neva. The system is able to automatically track up to 6 air targets simultaneously and simultaneously guide 2 PLŘS. A built-in TV camera with a range of up to 25 kilometers contributes to increased resistance to electronic interference. The range was 18 kilometers  - 1st radio engineering brigade, deployment around the capital city of Warsaw  2nd Air Defense Corps, Bydgoszcz Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 9th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Zegrze Pomorskie Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 28th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Slupek Airport. It was armed with MiG-23 MF aircraft. It was an export variant of the M version intended for Warsaw Pact member countries. It was referred to as an interceptor fighter aircraft.  - 4th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Gdyni. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 26th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the town of Grafice. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 78th anti-aircraft regiment, deployment headquarters Mrzezino area. It was armed with the S-200V Angara PL system. It was a stationary anti-aircraft missile set developed to repel mass air strikes of the strategic air force, including carriers of nuclear weapons, to destroy command posts located on aircraft and AWACS-type aircraft, and also to destroy strategic reconnaissance aircraft of the SR-71 type. The range of this version was 250 kilometers and the height reach was 29 kilometers  2nd radio engineering brigade, command deployment - the town of Szczecin  3rd Air Defense Corps, Wroclaw Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 11th fighter air force regiment, Wroclaw airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 62nd Fighter Aviation Regiment, PoznaÅ„ Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 1st anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Bytom. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 NÄ›va  - 79th anti-aircraft regiment, headquarters located in PoznaÅ„, was armed with PLRK S-200V Angara  - 3rd radio engineering brigade, deployment city of Wroclaw  In mid-1986, 52,000 soldiers served in the Air Defense Forces.  Overall, in mid-1986, the Army of the Polish People's Republic had:  - 3330 tanks,  - 4850 BVP and armored personnel carriers,  - 81 tactical and operational-tactical missile launchers,  - 3060 artillery means and  - 435 anti-tank sets.  The Air Force and PVOS had:  - 480 combat aircraft, of which 108 were fighter-bombers,  - 43 combat helicopters.  - 98 OZ PLŘS batteries of all three listed types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 6 hours ago, Captain Hurricane said: maybe you will find this useful Perun? machine translated from Czech site here: https://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=3218 B/ AIR FORCE OF THE POLISH PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC I did not manage to find out the exact name and location of the High Command of the Polish Air Force. So let's at least look at its organizational structure, deployment and armament. 2nd fighter-bomber division, Pila deployment. Its organizational structure includes: - 6th fighter-bomber regiment, place of deployment, Pila. Armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft. It was the final version of the Su-22 export type. It was derived from the Su-17 M-4. It was powered by a Ljulka AL-21F-3 engine. - 7th bomber reconnaissance regiment Powidz Su-20/22. One squadron was armed with Su-20 R aircraft, i.e. in the reconnaissance version, and two squadrons were armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft 3rd Fighter-Bomber Division, Åšwidwin deployment - 3rd fighter-bomber regiment, stationed in Bydgoszcz. It was armed with Su-7B aircraft. It was supposed to be capable of carrying tactical nuclear weapons. It was created based on the changed requirements of the USSR Air Force in March 1956 as a fighter-bomber modification that could also carry anti-ground unguided missiles S-5, S-3K and S-24. It entered service in January 1961. It was supplied to the Soviet Army and the armies of friendly countries between 1961 and 1971.  - 8th fighter-bomber regiment, deployment Miroslawiec. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  - 40th fighter-bomber regiment, Åšwidwin deployment. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  4th fighter air division, Malbork deployment  - 2nd fighter aviation regiment, Goleniow deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft. It was a modernized MiG-21 P interceptor with a more powerful R-11F2-300 engine, 60.6 kN and a modified exit nozzle.  - 34th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Gdyni deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft  - 41st Fighter Aviation Regiment, Malbork deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 bis. He followed up on the MF version. It has a new R-25-300 engine with a thrust of 95 kN with afterburner. This engine has the same external dimensions and mounting points as the older R-11 and R-13 and can be installed in older version airframes. Less consumption of the new engine together with a larger tank capacity (2800 liters) increased the performance of the aircraft. It was equipped with modern avionics and could also carry the new R-60 short-range infrared missiles. The dorsal superstructure is larger than the MF version but smaller than the SMT version. The new RP-22 SMA SafÃr radar also allows a limited view into the lower hemisphere.  The auxiliary types of military aviation were reconnaissance, helicopter, transport and school formations:  - 32nd Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, stationed at Sochaczew-Bielice Airport. It was armed with the MiG-21 R (Rozkryvayuschij). It was constructed in the late 1960s based on the PFM version, as a special reconnaissance aircraft. The electronic equipment required for reconnaissance purposes needed additional space in the narrow fuselage, as did the fuel tanks for a larger supply of fuel. This problem was solved by the reconstruction of the dorsal superstructure. The new 340 liter fuel tank increased the capacity of the internal tanks to 2800 litres. Two more additional tanks of 490 liters each could be hung under the wings.  - 37th Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Leczyca Airport. He was armed with helicopters Mi-8T and Mi-171V  - 49th Combat Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Pruszcz-GdaÅ„ski Airport. It was armed with Mi-2 and MI-24D  - 56th Combat Helicopter Regiment, Inowroclawek Airport Mi-2 and Mi-24V deployment  - 13th Transport Aviation Regiment, Kraków deployment. He had a varied array of aircraft in his arsenal - An-2, An-12, An-26 and the veteran Il-14 military air transport  - 36th transport aviation regiment, deployment of the airport of the capital city of Warsaw. He was entrusted with the transportation for the needs of the government of the country's diplomatic corps. It was equipped with transport aircraft Tu-134, Yak-40 and Mi-8 salon.  - 45th school combat aviation regiment, Babimost deployment. It was armed with MiG-15 bis and MiG-17UT aircraft  - 47th school helicopter regiment, Nowe Miasto – Pilica airport deployment. It was equipped with Mi-2 helicopters.  - a total of four school aviation regiments. They were numbered and marked 58th, 60th, 61st, and 66th school aviation regiment. TS-1 training machines were deployed on them  In mid-1986, 41,000 soldiers served in the Air Force.  C/ AIR DEFENSE  Air defense of the state was made up of three air defense corps. It had at its disposal a wide range of means of active and passive monitoring of the airspace of the country and the surrounding area. The air force served to protect the entire airspace, while the missile forces served to protect the main political and economic centers of the country.  As with the Air Force, I was unable to find out where the Air Defense Headquarters of the Republic of Poland was located. So let's look at the dislocation of his main forces.  1st Air Defense Corps, Headquarters Warsaw. It was formed by the following forces:  - 1st Fighter Aviation Regiment, stationed at MiÅ„sk Mazowiecki Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis and MiG-29 A aircraft. The latter was originally designed for short-range air combat as a replacement for the MiG-21, MiG-23, and as an opponent of the American F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. It was supposed to serve for air defense of a small area, strategic objects and grouping of troops. Almost enough for air defense needs  - 10th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Lask Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis  - 3rd anti-aircraft brigade, dislocation around the capital city of Warsaw. She was armed with:  + stationary anti-aircraft missile complex S-75 Volchov. It was intended for the destruction of aircraft, land and sea targets. Only air targets here. The possibility of hitting within a radius of 43 kilometers and a height range of 30 kilometers.  + short-range ground-based anti-aircraft missile system designed to destroy aircraft, cruise missiles, combat helicopters and other air targets at ground, low and medium altitudes S-125 Neva. The system is able to automatically track up to 6 air targets simultaneously and simultaneously guide 2 PLŘS. A built-in TV camera with a range of up to 25 kilometers contributes to increased resistance to electronic interference. The range was 18 kilometers  - 1st radio engineering brigade, deployment around the capital city of Warsaw  2nd Air Defense Corps, Bydgoszcz Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 9th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Zegrze Pomorskie Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 28th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Slupek Airport. It was armed with MiG-23 MF aircraft. It was an export variant of the M version intended for Warsaw Pact member countries. It was referred to as an interceptor fighter aircraft.  - 4th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Gdyni. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 26th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the town of Grafice. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 78th anti-aircraft regiment, deployment headquarters Mrzezino area. It was armed with the S-200V Angara PL system. It was a stationary anti-aircraft missile set developed to repel mass air strikes of the strategic air force, including carriers of nuclear weapons, to destroy command posts located on aircraft and AWACS-type aircraft, and also to destroy strategic reconnaissance aircraft of the SR-71 type. The range of this version was 250 kilometers and the height reach was 29 kilometers  2nd radio engineering brigade, command deployment - the town of Szczecin  3rd Air Defense Corps, Wroclaw Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 11th fighter air force regiment, Wroclaw airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 62nd Fighter Aviation Regiment, PoznaÅ„ Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 1st anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Bytom. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 NÄ›va  - 79th anti-aircraft regiment, headquarters located in PoznaÅ„, was armed with PLRK S-200V Angara  - 3rd radio engineering brigade, deployment city of Wroclaw  In mid-1986, 52,000 soldiers served in the Air Defense Forces.  Overall, in mid-1986, the Army of the Polish People's Republic had:  - 3330 tanks,  - 4850 BVP and armored personnel carriers,  - 81 tactical and operational-tactical missile launchers,  - 3060 artillery means and  - 435 anti-tank sets.  The Air Force and PVOS had:  - 480 combat aircraft, of which 108 were fighter-bombers,  - 43 combat helicopters.  - 98 OZ PLŘS batteries of all three listed types Thanks mate, nice find. Do you know for which year is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Radar systems in Polish use. A lot of interesting data. I recommend to translate Russian text rather then read english translation in this site https://topwar.ru/197248-glaza-sistemy-pvo-polshi-v-gody-holodnoj-vojny-radiolokacionnye-stancii-sovetskogo-i-polskogo-proizvodstva.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 23 hours ago, Captain Hurricane said: maybe you will find this useful Perun? machine translated from Czech site here: https://www.palba.cz/viewtopic.php?t=3218 B/ AIR FORCE OF THE POLISH PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC I did not manage to find out the exact name and location of the High Command of the Polish Air Force. So let's at least look at its organizational structure, deployment and armament. 2nd fighter-bomber division, Pila deployment. Its organizational structure includes: - 6th fighter-bomber regiment, place of deployment, Pila. Armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft. It was the final version of the Su-22 export type. It was derived from the Su-17 M-4. It was powered by a Ljulka AL-21F-3 engine. - 7th bomber reconnaissance regiment Powidz Su-20/22. One squadron was armed with Su-20 R aircraft, i.e. in the reconnaissance version, and two squadrons were armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft 3rd Fighter-Bomber Division, Åšwidwin deployment - 3rd fighter-bomber regiment, stationed in Bydgoszcz. It was armed with Su-7B aircraft. It was supposed to be capable of carrying tactical nuclear weapons. It was created based on the changed requirements of the USSR Air Force in March 1956 as a fighter-bomber modification that could also carry anti-ground unguided missiles S-5, S-3K and S-24. It entered service in January 1961. It was supplied to the Soviet Army and the armies of friendly countries between 1961 and 1971.  - 8th fighter-bomber regiment, deployment Miroslawiec. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  - 40th fighter-bomber regiment, Åšwidwin deployment. It was armed with Su-22 M-4 aircraft  4th fighter air division, Malbork deployment  - 2nd fighter aviation regiment, Goleniow deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft. It was a modernized MiG-21 P interceptor with a more powerful R-11F2-300 engine, 60.6 kN and a modified exit nozzle.  - 34th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Gdyni deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 PF aircraft  - 41st Fighter Aviation Regiment, Malbork deployment. It was armed with MiG-21 bis. He followed up on the MF version. It has a new R-25-300 engine with a thrust of 95 kN with afterburner. This engine has the same external dimensions and mounting points as the older R-11 and R-13 and can be installed in older version airframes. Less consumption of the new engine together with a larger tank capacity (2800 liters) increased the performance of the aircraft. It was equipped with modern avionics and could also carry the new R-60 short-range infrared missiles. The dorsal superstructure is larger than the MF version but smaller than the SMT version. The new RP-22 SMA SafÃr radar also allows a limited view into the lower hemisphere.  The auxiliary types of military aviation were reconnaissance, helicopter, transport and school formations:  - 32nd Reconnaissance Aviation Regiment, stationed at Sochaczew-Bielice Airport. It was armed with the MiG-21 R (Rozkryvayuschij). It was constructed in the late 1960s based on the PFM version, as a special reconnaissance aircraft. The electronic equipment required for reconnaissance purposes needed additional space in the narrow fuselage, as did the fuel tanks for a larger supply of fuel. This problem was solved by the reconstruction of the dorsal superstructure. The new 340 liter fuel tank increased the capacity of the internal tanks to 2800 litres. Two more additional tanks of 490 liters each could be hung under the wings.  - 37th Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Leczyca Airport. He was armed with helicopters Mi-8T and Mi-171V  - 49th Combat Helicopter Regiment, deployment at Pruszcz-GdaÅ„ski Airport. It was armed with Mi-2 and MI-24D  - 56th Combat Helicopter Regiment, Inowroclawek Airport Mi-2 and Mi-24V deployment  - 13th Transport Aviation Regiment, Kraków deployment. He had a varied array of aircraft in his arsenal - An-2, An-12, An-26 and the veteran Il-14 military air transport  - 36th transport aviation regiment, deployment of the airport of the capital city of Warsaw. He was entrusted with the transportation for the needs of the government of the country's diplomatic corps. It was equipped with transport aircraft Tu-134, Yak-40 and Mi-8 salon.  - 45th school combat aviation regiment, Babimost deployment. It was armed with MiG-15 bis and MiG-17UT aircraft  - 47th school helicopter regiment, Nowe Miasto – Pilica airport deployment. It was equipped with Mi-2 helicopters.  - a total of four school aviation regiments. They were numbered and marked 58th, 60th, 61st, and 66th school aviation regiment. TS-1 training machines were deployed on them  In mid-1986, 41,000 soldiers served in the Air Force.  C/ AIR DEFENSE  Air defense of the state was made up of three air defense corps. It had at its disposal a wide range of means of active and passive monitoring of the airspace of the country and the surrounding area. The air force served to protect the entire airspace, while the missile forces served to protect the main political and economic centers of the country.  As with the Air Force, I was unable to find out where the Air Defense Headquarters of the Republic of Poland was located. So let's look at the dislocation of his main forces.  1st Air Defense Corps, Headquarters Warsaw. It was formed by the following forces:  - 1st Fighter Aviation Regiment, stationed at MiÅ„sk Mazowiecki Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis and MiG-29 A aircraft. The latter was originally designed for short-range air combat as a replacement for the MiG-21, MiG-23, and as an opponent of the American F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. It was supposed to serve for air defense of a small area, strategic objects and grouping of troops. Almost enough for air defense needs  - 10th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Lask Airport. It was armed with MiG-21bis  - 3rd anti-aircraft brigade, dislocation around the capital city of Warsaw. She was armed with:  + stationary anti-aircraft missile complex S-75 Volchov. It was intended for the destruction of aircraft, land and sea targets. Only air targets here. The possibility of hitting within a radius of 43 kilometers and a height range of 30 kilometers.  + short-range ground-based anti-aircraft missile system designed to destroy aircraft, cruise missiles, combat helicopters and other air targets at ground, low and medium altitudes S-125 Neva. The system is able to automatically track up to 6 air targets simultaneously and simultaneously guide 2 PLŘS. A built-in TV camera with a range of up to 25 kilometers contributes to increased resistance to electronic interference. The range was 18 kilometers  - 1st radio engineering brigade, deployment around the capital city of Warsaw  2nd Air Defense Corps, Bydgoszcz Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 9th Fighter Aviation Regiment, Zegrze Pomorskie Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 28th Fighter Aviation Regiment, deployment at Slupek Airport. It was armed with MiG-23 MF aircraft. It was an export variant of the M version intended for Warsaw Pact member countries. It was referred to as an interceptor fighter aircraft.  - 4th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Gdyni. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 26th anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the town of Grafice. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 Neva  - 78th anti-aircraft regiment, deployment headquarters Mrzezino area. It was armed with the S-200V Angara PL system. It was a stationary anti-aircraft missile set developed to repel mass air strikes of the strategic air force, including carriers of nuclear weapons, to destroy command posts located on aircraft and AWACS-type aircraft, and also to destroy strategic reconnaissance aircraft of the SR-71 type. The range of this version was 250 kilometers and the height reach was 29 kilometers  2nd radio engineering brigade, command deployment - the town of Szczecin  3rd Air Defense Corps, Wroclaw Headquarters. It was formed by the following forces:  - 11th fighter air force regiment, Wroclaw airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 62nd Fighter Aviation Regiment, PoznaÅ„ Airport deployment. It was armed with MiG-21bis aircraft  - 1st anti-aircraft brigade, headquarters located in the village of Bytom. It was armed with PLRK S-75 Volchov and S-125 NÄ›va  - 79th anti-aircraft regiment, headquarters located in PoznaÅ„, was armed with PLRK S-200V Angara  - 3rd radio engineering brigade, deployment city of Wroclaw  In mid-1986, 52,000 soldiers served in the Air Defense Forces.  Overall, in mid-1986, the Army of the Polish People's Republic had:  - 3330 tanks,  - 4850 BVP and armored personnel carriers,  - 81 tactical and operational-tactical missile launchers,  - 3060 artillery means and  - 435 anti-tank sets.  The Air Force and PVOS had:  - 480 combat aircraft, of which 108 were fighter-bombers,  - 43 combat helicopters.  - 98 OZ PLŘS batteries of all three listed types I found data that during 1989.-91. - 11th fighter air force regiment, Wroclaw airport deployment, was armed with MiG-21MF aircrafts  - 62nd Fighter Aviation Regiment, PoznaÅ„ Airport deployment, was armed with MiG-21PFM aircrafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Layout of permanent radar posts and air defense command post as of 1970 Â Layout of permanent radar posts and air defense command post as of 1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Planned F-92 artillery brigades. There were two types, "Mixed Artillery Brigade" and "Heavy Mixed Artillery Brigade".  Mixed Artillery Brigade - this would be standard corps level artillery support\ Bde HQ and Command Recce Bn - 3 x MANPADS  - Recce Co x 2 - unknown composition  - Electronic Recce Co - unknown composition Signal Co Military Police Platoon NBC Defense Platoon Logistic Bn x 2 - 3 x MANPADS - it is not clear if this was still undecided or would have depended on exact composition of Bde. Engineer Bn  - 3 x MANPADS Howitzer Artillery Bn x 2 - 18 x 152mm M84 NORA L/39, 3 x MANPADS, 1 x LAR, 3 x SAR - LAR is at Bn level, SAR are 1/Battery Gun Artillery Bn x 1 - 18 x 152mm M46/86 L/45, 3 x MANPADS, 1 x LAR, 3 x SAR Rocket Artillery Bn - 18 x 128/32 M-77 Oganj, 3 x MANPADS, 1 x LAR, 3 x SAR Mixed Light Artillery-Missile Anti-Aircraft Bn - 12 x 20/3 AAG, 12 x MANPADS Total - 36 x 152mm M84 NORA L/39 (24km range), 18 x 152mm M46/86 L/45 (35km range), 18 x 128/32 M-77 Oganj MRL (20 or 30km range), 12 x 20/3 AAG, 30 x MANPADS, 4+ x LAR, 12+ x SAR. For reserve ones 155mm M1/114 (until expected retirement at the end of 1999) or 152mm D-20 would be used instead of 152mm M84 and 130mm M46 instead of 152mm M46/86.    Heavy Mixed Artillery Brigade - 3 were planned to be developed until end of 1995, 6 until end of 1999. Those would be probably army level assets, 6 total gives one/two per army area in 1995/1999. Bde HQ and Command Recce  Bn - 3 x MANPADS  - Recce Co - unknown composition  - Electronic Recce Co x 2 - unknown composition Signal Co Military Police Platoon NBC Defense Platoon Logistic Bn x 2 - 3 x MANPADS - it is not clear if this was still undecided or would have depended on exact composition of Bde. Engineer Bn  - 3 x MANPADS Gun Artillery Bn x 2 - 18 x 152mm M46/86 L/45, 3 x MANPADS, 1 x LAR, 3 x SAR Rocket Artillery Bn - 18 x 128/32 M-77 Oganj, 3 x MANPADS, 1 x LAR, 3 x SAR Heavy Rocket Artillery Bn - 12 x 262/12 M-87 Orkan, 2 x LAR Mixed Light Artillery-Missile Anti-Aircraft Bn - unknown composition. Possibly same as with above, but not certain. Total - 36 x 152mm M46/86 L/45 (35km range), 18 x 128/32 M-77 Oganj MRL (30km range), 12 x 262/12 M-87 Orkan MRL (50km range) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/1/2024 at 10:08 AM, Perun said: I added French forces into game. And, I suppose, Polish air defence 11. PLM would be used, at least for the Ostrava defense Soviet 192nd Fighter Air Regiment, Ivano-Frankovsk (Chortkov) with MiG-21bis, could be used as reinforcment. The 192nd Fighter Air Regiment which was the 3rd regiment of the division and flew with MiG-21bis ‘Fishbed-L/N’ has arrived from Czechoslovakia in 1984. Regiment was part of Carpathian VVS (14th Air army FA). It could be deployed on some of airfields around Brno-Ostrava area.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_goat Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Maybe this would be interesting for someone here. Planned hungarian acquistions, late 1980s. Unfortunately, due to severe economic difficulties, very little was achieved:  - T-55 modernization to T-55AM level (equivalent to czech T-55AM2) for 400 tanks. Only 152 were modernized eventually. - Replacement of PSzH-IV APCs with BTR-80. Only 32 arrived. (although later we bought far more ... to replace BMP lol) - 2S3M Akatsia, 54 units. Only 18 arrived. - 101. fighter-bomber regiment, one squadron with Su-22M3, and two with Su-25 (20-25 total). Additionally, on squadron with Tu-143 recon UAVs. 4 launchers and 12 aircraft total. From this, only the Su-22s were realized. - 20 more Mi-24V, none arrived. - 4 complex of 9K714 Oka, none arrived - 4 complex of 9K79 Tochka, none arrived - One battalion with RM-70 MLRS, none arrived - two batteries of S-300PMU, crew training and site construction began, but the complexes never arrived. - Strela-10M3, 24 vehicles. Only 4 arrived eventually. - 9K310 Igla-E, 173 launchers. Only 66 arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 IIRC Hungary was interested also in additional Nestin (or more probably improved version) river mine sweepers. IIRC 2 were supposed to be delivered in 1993-94, but were still not paid in 1991 and deal was canceled in mid 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 58 minutes ago, old_goat said: Maybe this would be interesting for someone here. Planned hungarian acquistions, late 1980s. Unfortunately, due to severe economic difficulties, very little was achieved: Interesting to see Su-22M3 and Su-25 but no MiG-29. According to a Hungarian member of this site there was interest in buying T-80UD (described as a better tank than T-72 with boxer engine), but sale was denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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