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War in Ukraine, technical and military aspects only


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16 minutes ago, bojan said:

Some interesting points, in particular inability to group larger forces due the constant UAV observation and quick reaction of artillery.

https://mwi.usma.edu/the-russian-way-of-war-in-ukraine-a-military-approach-nine-decades-in-the-making/

That seems to be a major characteristic of this war after the first month or so - an inability to mass troops or supplies because UAV observation and artillery make massing anything incredibly dangerous. Technology seems to again be favoring less mobile type of warfare, at least for peer opponents.

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Embarrassingly, I forgot that Sweden and Germany are donating 12 IRIS-T SLS systems to Ukraine, though according to this source (citing Spiegel, but I couldn't find the original article) it seems they will not be mounted on BV 410s, but some other vehicle.

I’m starting to suspect that it might end up being the ACSV G5. During Pistorius and Stoltenberg’s recent visit to FFG, the latter stated that they were preparing not only Leo 1A5s, Leo 1 AVLBs and Wisent 1s for Ukraine, but also anti-air vehicles.

Around the same time, Norwegian media also started reporting that there had been delays in the ACSV programme due to the pandemics, 2021 floods, and now also the war in Ukraine, and that the planned serial production at Ritek in Levanger wouldn’t start before the turn of the year at the earliest.

So, unless, FFG is also restoring Gepards or something – and I couldn’t find any sources that suggests they do – I don’t see what else it could be tbh.

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DM33 and DM53 APFSDS for Leo 2 for sure.

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2 hours ago, alejandro_ said:

Wagner members in Rostov, photo by Reuters. I haver never seen that AK-74 with that green finish...

Border guards "award" rifles.

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what is the guy with the cowboy hat using?\

Some AR-15 derived rifle. IIRC ORSIS makes some, as does Lobaev Arms etc (but I think Lobaev one is 7.62x51). Or could be a capture.

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A series of five clips (they are in the reply section to the tweet) showing ukrainian infantry stuck in a minefield with wrecked vehicles nearby and a Bradley trying to extract them, this is not a very pleasant watch as several men lose their legs in the attempt:

 

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Technically speaking, I think the Leo 2 has been shown up to be the poser I always suspected it was. The tank had never tasted combat until recently, when used by the Turks in Syria and now by the Ukrainians in their war. Unlike the Challenger 2 and M1, which proved themselves in Desert Storm, the Leo 2 had no such combat experience there.

Now we see the Leo 2A4 as a fail in Syria being too easily disabled by RPGs. And if you use the A4 model as the baseline, then the A6 employed by Ukraine is not doing too much better either, being disabled by mines and ATGW. I hope the A7 and new upgrades are not the fakes that they might be.

The things the Leo 2 has going for it are the proven 120mm gun, superior optics and night fighting capability. I think its protection is up for debate.

 

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29 minutes ago, TonyE said:

A series of five clips (they are in the reply section to the tweet) showing ukrainian infantry stuck in a minefield with wrecked vehicles nearby and a Bradley trying to extract them, this is not a very pleasant watch as several men lose their legs in the attempt:

 

 

Moving too fast to even be trying Self Extraction.  Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing any of the inch-worm/inch-worm probe/mark/crawl needed to get out of that little nightmare.

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15 minutes ago, On the way said:

Technically speaking, I think the Leo 2 has been shown up to be the poser I always suspected it was. The tank had never tasted combat until recently, when used by the Turks in Syria and now by the Ukrainians in their war. Unlike the Challenger 2 and M1, which proved themselves in Desert Storm, the Leo 2 had no such combat experience there.

Protection of A4 is not at the level of modern Abrams and Challenger 2, but it would not have mattered in GW1. Yes, there are some issues with the tank (ammunition in hull) but in Syria enemy fielded more advanced AT missiles and was capable of organising ambushes. Iraqi Army in 1991 was just collapsing. 

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