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4 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

Pro-Ukrainians are now also trying to play with nets on poles to protect roads

Has anyone in Ukraine attempted to build a self-deploying net?  I picture a device that boosts itself off the ground to maybe 50 or 100 feet in the air, then fires rockets in multiple directions, the rockets drawing out the net, which then falls down and covers X square meters of ground, relying on trees, or poles, or houses and such to provide the vertical structure.  

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1 hour ago, glenn239 said:

Has anyone in Ukraine attempted to build a self-deploying net?  I picture a device that boosts itself off the ground to maybe 50 or 100 feet in the air, then fires rockets in multiple directions, the rockets drawing out the net, which then falls down and covers X square meters of ground, relying on trees, or poles, or houses and such to provide the vertical structure.  

There were plenty of this experiments on both sides, but it turned out that drone with net thrower is better solution.

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21 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

There were plenty of this experiments on both sides, but it turned out that drone with net thrower is better solution.

Do you mean where the drone uses a net to bring down another drone, or a drone dropping a net to create ground cover?

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22 hours ago, Roman Alymov said:

There were plenty of this experiments on both sides, but it turned out that drone with net thrower is better solution.

That's what my feeble brain came up with. To protect higher-value assets like roads and infantry battalions, augment with cannon fire from AFVs.

A year or two ago I ran across a little hobby electronics project this guy did, to create a little drone detector radar. It was small, low power, etc.

Despite the best efforts of the generals and procurement weasels, modern militaries will field interceptor drones soon enough, though probably in insufficient quantities. My concern for the USian military is the detection and command&control aspects.

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I'm impressed.

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Ukraine Produced More Than 150 2S22 Bohdana Self-Propelled Howitzers in 2024

Ukraine's defense industry reached a significant milestone in 2024, producing over 150 artillery systems, as announced by President Volodymyr Zelensky. This production includes various artillery systems, surpassing the combined output of all NATO countries over the past year, marking a notable achievement for Ukraine's military manufacturing capabilities.

During a press conference, President Zelensky confirmed that Ukraine's defense sector had produced a total of 154 artillery systems in 2024, with forecasts for further increased production in the upcoming year. While Zelensky did not specify the exact types of weaponry included in this figure, experts suggest that a significant portion of the total could come from the 2S22 Bohdana, a locally developed 155mm wheeled self-propelled howitzer. Previous reports had indicated that the production of these systems had reached a rate of 20 units per month as of October 2023.

Although independent verification of the reported figures remains difficult, these developments signal Ukraine's growing artillery production capacity. In addition to the 2S22 Bohdana, Ukraine has also developed a towed version of the howitzer, further expanding its artillery capabilities.

Ukraine's defense sector has not limited its production efforts to artillery systems alone. President Zelensky also revealed that the country had produced around 2.2 million FPV (First-Person View) drones, as well as approximately 100,000 long-range drones, further enhancing the country's technological and operational capabilities in the field of unmanned aerial systems.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/focus-analysis-conflicts/army/conflicts-in-the-world/russia-ukraine-war-2022/ukraine-produced-more-than-150-2s22-bohdana-self-propelled-howitzers-in-2024

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14 minutes ago, urbanoid said:

If the war ends, military production will be a key sector of the economy going forward... They just need to find buyers (which is where Europe could really help, if they had a mind to).

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9 minutes ago, ink said:

If the war ends, military production will be a key sector of the economy going forward... They just need to find buyers (which is where Europe could really help, if they had a mind to).

I'd say that depends on HOW the war ends. 

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8 hours ago, urbanoid said:

Those figures sound rather optimistc considering France reaches about 80 without the energy infrastructure being bombed and so on.

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4 minutes ago, alejandro_ said:

Those figures sound rather optimistc considering France reaches about 80 without the energy infrastructure being bombed and so on.

Yes, France (and the West in general) is slacking off, you don't need to remind us. :P

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7 minutes ago, alejandro_ said:

Those figures sound rather optimistc considering France reaches about 80 without the energy infrastructure being bombed and so on.

Yeah, I have significant reservations to believe Ukraine is able to pull this off. A couple dozen makes sense, but not the number they are claiming 

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Poland is producing about 50 a year (and those are more complicated and more expensive tracked SPHs) with possible expansion to ~100 according to the industry, but that would take more orders, investment and, well, time. 

Ukraine still has quite an industrial legacy from Soviet times and, unlike us, they're already really desperate, so I can imagine they poured a lot of resources into expanding production.  

According to Ukrainian sources the production rate reached around 6 per month in 2023, 10 per month in the first half of 2024 and 20 per month in the latter half.

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3 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

And who knows how much parts manufacture is done outside Ukraine.  

There are variants with the Belarusian truck MAZ-6317 and the Czech Tatra 815-7 (6×6) and 158 (8×8). The bottleneck is not in the platform but the gun barrel. Ukraine did not produce this type of barrels and production in Europe is limited.
 

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16 hours ago, Markus Becker said:

I notice they refer to "artillery systems" of unknown definition but 20 wheeled SPAG per month is pretty good considering their circumstances. 

20 per month would be 240 in a year. Obviously these numbers don't quite add up. And as usual per today, text of the article itself contradicts the headline.

My guess is that the number includes simple MLRS thingies.

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2 minutes ago, Yama said:

20 per month would be 240 in a year. Obviously these numbers don't quite add up. And as usual per today, text of the article itself contradicts the headline.

My guess is that the number includes simple MLRS thingies.

They reported 10 per month in May, capacity allegedly reached 20 per month only in October.

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