Stuart Galbraith Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet.
Mighty_Zuk Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 24 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. RUMINT deserves no attention IMO.
Yama Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 Wouldn't surprise though, as June introduction to operations was announced many months ago. First Russian claim about F-16 shot down will come within 3 days.
Ssnake Posted June 29, 2024 Posted June 29, 2024 5 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: Very likely twice as much for Ukraine Why do you consider it "very likely" to be a factor of two? Ukraine's been mostly on the defense, and defense favors lower casualty rates than assault.
crazyinsane105 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ssnake said: Why do you consider it "very likely" to be a factor of two? Ukraine's been mostly on the defense, and defense favors lower casualty rates than assault. No way in hell Ukraine will need to recruit that many more soldiers if they only had a similar number of casualties. Hell, Zelenskyy was lying through his teeth when he said Ukraine only had 30 something thousand KIA. If Ukraine lost nearly the same as Russia, why the need for mass mobilization when their military is several times the size of Russia at the moment? Edited June 30, 2024 by crazyinsane105
ink Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 6 hours ago, Ssnake said: Why do you consider it "very likely" to be a factor of two? Ukraine's been mostly on the defense, and defense favors lower casualty rates than assault. It has also been on the receiving end of much greater firepower throughout the war.
Roman Alymov Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 5 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: No way in hell Ukraine will need to recruit that many more soldiers if they only had a similar number of casualties. Hell, Zelenskyy was lying through his teeth when he said Ukraine only had 30 something thousand KIA. If Ukraine lost nearly the same as Russia, why the need for mass mobilization when their military is several times the size of Russia at the moment? Not "several" but about two times the size of Rus Army forces involved.
seahawk Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 7 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: No way in hell Ukraine will need to recruit that many more soldiers if they only had a similar number of casualties. Hell, Zelenskyy was lying through his teeth when he said Ukraine only had 30 something thousand KIA. If Ukraine lost nearly the same as Russia, why the need for mass mobilization when their military is several times the size of Russia at the moment? Russia picks the point of attack. Ukraine can not risk to expose their borders, not even with Belarus to the fullest.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 12 hours ago, Yama said: Wouldn't surprise though, as June introduction to operations was announced many months ago. First Russian claim about F-16 shot down will come within 3 days. Thats the only reason I give it credence. LOL, yes.
Stuart Galbraith Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 7 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: No way in hell Ukraine will need to recruit that many more soldiers if they only had a similar number of casualties. Hell, Zelenskyy was lying through his teeth when he said Ukraine only had 30 something thousand KIA. If Ukraine lost nearly the same as Russia, why the need for mass mobilization when their military is several times the size of Russia at the moment? They certainly would, if they wanted to create more units so they could rotate units out of the line where they have been for 2 years, which is the stated intention.
Pavel Novak Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 10 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: No way in hell Ukraine will need to recruit that many more soldiers if they only had a similar number of casualties. Hell, Zelenskyy was lying through his teeth when he said Ukraine only had 30 something thousand KIA. If Ukraine lost nearly the same as Russia, why the need for mass mobilization when their military is several times the size of Russia at the moment? 4 hours ago, Roman Alymov said: Not "several" but about two times the size of Rus Army forces involved. Total ukrainian army may have two times more men than what Russia has in Ukraine now. But that is counting apples and oranges. If you count only combat troops Ukraine no longer has higher number than Russian forces in Ukraine. That Russian mobilization really solved numbers issues on Russian side. In total numbers Russian army numbers are now significantly more numerous than Ukrainian army.
Soldier36 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 One of the Russian snipers from the 40th Guards Marine Brigade of the Pacific Fleet spoke about combat work in Ukraine. To protect against drones and thermal imagers, snipers use special camouflage
Soldier36 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Personnel training of Russian FPV drone operators of Airborne Forces units. Before flying drones, operators are trained in computer simulators. Drone operators are improving their skills in controlling drones, in particular, in conducting reconnaissance, searching for high-priority targets, and adjusting the fire of various artillery systems. The training is carried out under conditions of simulating the enemy's active use of jamming by electronic warfare systems.
Roman Alymov Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 5 hours ago, Pavel Novak said: Total ukrainian army may have two times more men than what Russia has in Ukraine now. But that is counting apples and oranges. If you count only combat troops Ukraine no longer has higher number than Russian forces in Ukraine. That Russian mobilization really solved numbers issues on Russian side. In total numbers Russian army numbers are now significantly more numerous than Ukrainian army. No way to count combat troops as we do not know numbers for them from both pro-Rus and pro-Ukr sides. Mobilization have not solved the problem, but only reduced the scale of it as pro-Russians are still complaining about not having enough people, especially in first line units, resulting in many problems like people urged to go back from hospitals before full reciovery etc. Yes partly it is result of bureaucracy mistakes, but this mistakes are result of general lack of reserves.
urbanoid Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Roman Alymov said: No way to count combat troops as we do not know numbers for them from both pro-Rus and pro-Ukr sides. Mobilization have not solved the problem, but only reduced the scale of it as pro-Russians are still complaining about not having enough people, especially in first line units, resulting in many problems like people urged to go back from hospitals before full reciovery etc. Yes partly it is result of bureaucracy mistakes, but this mistakes are result of general lack of reserves. That's not an indicator that there are fewer Russian frontline troops compared to the Ukrainians, it doesn't even exclude the possibility that there are more Russians than Ukrainians there. Having numerical superiority and having enough numerical superiority to conduct large scale offensive operations are two different things.
Roman Alymov Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 3 hours ago, urbanoid said: That's not an indicator that there are fewer Russian frontline troops compared to the Ukrainians, it doesn't even exclude the possibility that there are more Russians than Ukrainians there. Having numerical superiority and having enough numerical superiority to conduct large scale offensive operations are two different things. See above, "No way to count combat troops as we do not know numbers for them from both pro-Rus and pro-Ukr sides." so no need wasting time debating something we do not have data for. But personnel problem on pro-Rus side was definitely not solved, contrary to Pavel's statement above "That Russian mobilization really solved numbers issues on Russian side."
Roman Alymov Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Engine replacement on M1 Abrams tank, note civilian autocrane used
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