bojan Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 (edited) 13 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-buys-81-soviet-era-145127813.html Quite surprising that Russia didn’t bother purchasing them just for the sake of ensuring they didn’t fall into Ukrainian hands. 30 years of Kazakhstan climate (Sahara like summers and Siberia like winters) makes those practically useless for anything other than mockups. IMO no useful spares can be really acquired from those. Edited April 29 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I read somewhere they included Mig27's and Mig31's. Im not sure what the hell for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 It might have just been a bulk rate deal to clear the entire inventory; I cannot imagine most of those aircraft are good for anything but scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 A lot of the Ukraine aid package is actually money funding US production. Apparently it puts the US Army arsenals back on track for 100,000 155mm per month in a little over a year: https://www.defenseone.com/business/2024/04/goal-100k-artillery-shells-month-sight-army-says/396047/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandro_ Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, bojan said: 30 years of Kazakhstan climate (Sahara like summers and Siberia like winters) makes those practically useless for anything other than mockups. IMO no useful spares can be really acquired from those. Also, one of the conditions for buyer is to scrap the aircraft in Kazakhstan. It seems someone published the information, and as it circulates the possibility becomes a fact. Good article in El País about how Russia has adapted and improved Armed Forces following lessons learned in Ukraine. Authors interviewed Ruslan Pukhov, director of CAST. https://elpais.com/internacional/2024-04-28/rusia-aprende-de-los-errores-militares-en-ucrania-y-perfecciona-su-ejercito.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 23 minutes ago, Josh said: It might have just been a bulk rate deal to clear the entire inventory; I cannot imagine most of those aircraft are good for anything but scrap. A thought occurred to me. I wonder if they are buying American, and offloading their old junk was part of the deal? Kind of like getting the delivery guys delivering your new oven to take away the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I doubt American, but what are they replacing their planes with? Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Josh said: A lot of the Ukraine aid package is actually money funding US production. Apparently it puts the US Army arsenals back on track for 100,000 155mm per month in a little over a year: https://www.defenseone.com/business/2024/04/goal-100k-artillery-shells-month-sight-army-says/396047/ And a lot of that money is going to go... Well, we all know how defence budgets work by now, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Article on the failure of US GPS guided munitions to ever-increasing Russian jamming, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2024/04/another-us-precision-guided-weapon-falls-prey-russian-electronic-warfare-us-says/396141/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I always thought GLSDB was going to be of little use. Its flight profile is an unpowered glide from high altitude and its payload is all of 40lbs of HE. The slow approach is going to make it more vulnerable to shoot downs and keep it inside a GPS denied area longer, while the blast radius is small enough that effectiveness rapidly falls off with inaccuracy. There’s a reason the U.S. never bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 No idea if it was actually a lancet or what sort of warhead it had, true, but interesting pictures anyway: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier36 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Russian mechanics inspect the Ukrainian M1150 demining vehicle. The video shows a Ukrainian M1150 mine clearance vehicle made in America. The M1150 was hit by a drone in the weak spot of the surveillance camera, the crew lost visibility and drove into a minefield in the Berdychi area. It was difficult to evacuate the M1150 due to its heavy weight, it reaches 75 tons; several vehicles were used for evacuation. Due to its heavy weight, it is better to use the machine on dry ground. The M1150 mine clearing vehicle was developed in 2009 on the basis of the M1A1 Abrams tank and is considered the best in the US Army for work on the front line. The M1150 has good armor with dynamic protection and is designed for making passages in minefields. The M1150 is equipped with a blade mine sweeper that plows the ground, lifting mines to the surface and throwing them aside. The trawl can be dropped without leaving the car; it is mounted on a hydraulic “High Lift Adapter”. Also, instead of a trawl, the “adapter” provides for the installation of a bulldozer bucket, after which the machine can be used as a bulldozer. The machine has signal flags that are stuck into the ground by two pneumatic devices, indicating the demining area. In the rear compartment of the vehicle there are MK22 Mod 4 rockets with charges attached to them, which are 107-meter fabric “sleeves” equipped with a detonation cable and filled with explosives. The projectile is fired from the M58A3 launcher at a length of 100 meters; after detonation, an area up to 8 meters wide is cleared. The M1150 mine clearing vehicle is armed with a 12.7 mm machine gun, has a crew of 2 people, and the estimated cost of the M1150 is about $14 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 hours ago, bojan said: 30 years of Kazakhstan climate (Sahara like summers and Siberia like winters) makes those practically useless for anything other than mockups. IMO no useful spares can be really acquired from those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I bet the cost of shipping them is 10-20 times that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandeb48 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Steel production in the last 25 years. Not directly related to the topic of war but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 47 minutes ago, mandeb48 said: Steel production in the last 25 years. Not directly related to the topic of war but.... The decline of Ukraine is sharper if we go back further. In 1990 it produced over 54.6 million tons. In 1980 it even outproduced China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yama Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 4 hours ago, Josh said: I doubt American, but what are they replacing their planes with? Chinese? I don't think they have acute need for new combat aircraft, they have reasonably new fleet of Su-30's. Motivation for US in this deal might have also been to prevent any possible resale to Syria. Kazakhstan was the last MiG-27 operator, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 5 hours ago, Josh said: I doubt American, but what are they replacing their planes with? Chinese? Kazakhstan was rumored to buy French Rafale, but they are looking for Su-30s now https://www.asianmilitaryreview.com/2023/12/kazakhstan-waits-for-new-sukhoi-fighter-jets-in-2024/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Yama said: I don't think they have acute need for new combat aircraft, they have reasonably new fleet of Su-30's. Motivation for US in this deal might have also been to prevent any possible resale to Syria. Kazakhstan was the last MiG-27 operator, right? Correct, India retired their MiG-27s a while ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, crazyinsane105 said: Correct, India retired their MiG-27s a while ago Wait, aren't they still using some MiG-21s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyinsane105 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Just now, Josh said: Wait, aren't they still using some MiG-21s? Yeah, the MiG-21s are still being used. They are hoping that MiG-21s can be replaced with Tejas and future orders of Rafales…who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 minutes ago, crazyinsane105 said: Yeah, the MiG-21s are still being used. They are hoping that MiG-21s can be replaced with Tejas and future orders of Rafales…who knows Jesus that must suck...there is no way the pilot is younger than the airframe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yama Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Josh said: Jesus that must suck...there is no way the pilot is younger than the airframe... T-38, B-52... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 KC-135, E-3, F-16s, F-15s,...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 16 hours ago, Josh said: I doubt American, but what are they replacing their planes with? Chinese? Rafales apparently. Well, bang goes that idea. https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2023/11/28/kazakhstan-and-uzbekistan-plan-to-buy-rafale-fighter-jets-and-a400m-transport-aircraft-retires-russian-jets/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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