B17 and P63 collide at airshow

[Roman Alymov]

Terrible loss, almost like deliberate raming

 

[R E lee]

15 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

It would seem rather trivial compared to the deaths of the aircrew, but, considering the apparent rarity of the P63 on the airshow scene, could this be the prototype aircraft that was returned to flight a few years ago?

Have we any word on the identity of the B17?

Its sickening. I cant even bring myself to watch the video footage.

Afaict the B17 was the Texas Ranger and had recently flown in GA at an air show. 

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by R E lee

[Stuart Galbraith]

Hmm, Ive got a feeling that one was part of the CAF for decades.

[R E lee]

34 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Hmm, Ive got a feeling that one was part of the CAF for decades.

Sally B, the only one flying regularly in Europe, is the Uk CAF B17 that flys in Air shows and can be seen at Duxford. You might be thinking of seeing that one?.

[rmgill]

A reenactor/historian/writer David Gordon in Texas has noted that it was Texas Raiders of the CAF. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by rmgill

[rmgill]

According to wikipedia it was P-63F 43-11719 of the CAF. Per the same entry there are now 4 airworthy in the US. 

P-63A

• 42-68864 Pretty Polly: Palm Springs Air Museum in Palm Springs, California.^[34][35]
• 42-68941 TEST: Commemorative Air Force(previously Dixie Wing; after 2020, Airbase Georgia) in Peachtree City, Georgia.^[36][37]
• 42-69080 Fatal Fang: Yanks Air Museum in Chino, California.^[38][39]

P-63C
43-11223: Legacy of Flight Museum in Rexburg, Idaho.^[40] (Painted as P-63A-6/42-69021).^[41]

 

 

Early updated entry at wikipedia:

 

The B-17 involved has been identified as Texas Raiders, a Douglas-Long Beach built B-17G-95-DL registered N7227C which first entered service in 1945. It was one of the few surviving B-17 Flying Fortress aircraft that remained airworthy.[5][3] The second aircraft involved has been identified as a P-63F-1-BE Kingcobra registered N6763 that first entered service in 1946 and was operated by American Airpower Heritage Flying Museum. This plane was one of only two P-63F variants ever built. It was one of only five P-63s that remained airworthy. It didn't have a name and was painted in its original "X" test markings.

Edited November 13, 2022 by rmgill

[Stuart Galbraith]

Shit. Then it was the prototype.

https://warbirdsnews.com/warbird-restorations/caf-bell-p-63f-kingcobra-re-emerges-in-fresh-livery.html

That's the second WW2 prototype lost in a fatal crash in the past 5 years. If something is that rare, it shouldn't be flown imho.

[R E lee]

7 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Shit. Then it was the prototype.

https://warbirdsnews.com/warbird-restorations/caf-bell-p-63f-kingcobra-re-emerges-in-fresh-livery.html

That's the second WW2 prototype lost in a fatal crash in the past 5 years. If something is that rare, it shouldn't be flown imho.

Ona brighter note , just down the road from me actually https://www.iwradio.co.uk/news/isle-of-wight-news/gkn-aerospace-in-east-cowes-supports-restoration-of-historic-spitfire/

[Stuart Galbraith]

I heard about that one in Fly past magazine, it was flown by a chap killed during the great escape.

[rmgill]

 

[rmgill]

The Airboss had the fighters cross over the previously established line of the bomber string. They HAD been on the 500 foot line, with the figthers on the 1000 foot line.

Edited December 8, 2022 by rmgill