Skywalkre Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Murph said: Musk kicked off some "alleged journalists" who were doxxing him. I say good on Elon. This doxxing crap has got to stop. Now the libtard journalists are getting a taste of their own medicine, too f'ing bad. Stop drinking the koolaid, Murph... Here's a breakdown of what's happening here. - Years ago some kid, let's call him kid T, started a website tracking the private jets of select wealthy individuals. Was taken to court years ago but the courts ruled in his favor that it was protected under the 1st amendment (the info he's putting out is publicly available). - Weeks ago Musk stated he would not ban kid T's page due to the free speech reasoning. - Musk is claiming there was an incident with a 'stalker' and one of his children recently. Thing is... there's no police report and it looks like LAPD is now getting involved due to hearing about this in the news. - Musk blames kid T's website for the stalker being able to find his son and proceeds to ban his twitter account. He gives the reasoning as doxxing. Thing is... this isn't doxxing because this info was always available and kid T is just making it easier for folks to find regarding these wealthy individuals. - People pick up on this and either repost the last post from the blocked account, give direct links to other webpages/services that show the same info, or in other places outside of twitter give links to kid T's website. Some folks who have been banned claim they've done nothing of the above, though. - Many of these bans are to journalists. By every definition of the word these are journalists. The organizations they report for include the NY Times, CNN, Washington Post, and many more. Per the previous point some of these banned journalists are stating they've made no mention or given how to find the website of kid T and the only thing they've done is report on Musk (unfavorably). - Musk is now threatening legal action against kid T. Musk will lose... but he can afford to bury kid T in legal fees and ruin him all for doing something the courts have already said he can do. So... Murph... how is Elon doing good here? Edited December 16, 2022 by Skywalkre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Remember folks, it's only doxxing if you like the person who's being doxxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 Musks jet info is restricted by the FAA, and as such the libtard @sshole who posted non-Publicly available flight data not only doxxed Musk, but possibly violated federal law, not that the DOJ will ever prosecute a lefty (unless they run out of money), for breaking the law on people they hate. So your argument is fallacious in that respect. As for the so called "Journalists" the repeated the information which WAS NOT PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE. You cannot have it both ways. You either follow the law, or we have no laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Elons next cost cutting move will likely be equally controversial: https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-stopped-paying-rent-not-paying-severance-elon-musk-report-2022-12?amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 The Fasctist Bureau of Intimidation (FBI) subsidiary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 FBI is looking worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) Twitter (and Facebook) neatly underlines a concern ive had for years. Americans have been obsessed with Government observation, tracking, surveillance, misuse of data, censorship, arbitrary justice for years. Justifiably so I will add, and I share those concerns. So Facebook and Elon Musk between them now do all that. And what do Americans do? They are private enterprise, so they cheer them. The fascists of the future wont bother with Government. They will just start an online media company. Edited December 17, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 54 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Twitter (and Facebook) neatly underlines a concern ive had for years. Americans have been obsessed with Government observation, tracking, surveillance, misuse of data, censorship, arbitrary justice for years. Justifiably so I will add, and I share those concerns. So Facebook and Elon Musk between them now do all that. And what do Americans do? They are private enterprise, so they cheer them. The fascists of the future wont bother with Government. They will just start an online media company. The "online media company" is government or government coerced. This fact of increased government control, is described in the book of Daniel and Revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 The online media hardly need Government coercian to spy on you. Its their business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: The online media hardly need Government coercian to spy on you. Its their business model. You simply are incapable of differentiating between the two issues. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 And you are unable to recognise a basic truth. Its pointless to display ever present vigilance against Government, when the private sector is increasingly taking on the trappings of Government. Just wait till Elon becomes all our unofficial President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said: And you are unable to recognise a basic truth. Its pointless to display ever present vigilance against Government, when the private sector is increasingly taking on the trappings of Government. Just wait till Elon becomes all our unofficial President. Get back to us when a private enterprise, without the auspices of government backing, is allowed to deprive you of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Got it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Perhaps Musk is insufficiently purging the incompetents: https://www.piratewires.com/p/twitter-whistleblower-report Quote But compared to the discourse around Musk’s acquisition and the Twitter Files, the whistleblower report fell completely flat on media Twitter when it was published, and has received little attention in the narrative since. This couldn’t be because of the whistleblower’s lack of credibility: Peiter “Mudge” Zatko was a cybersecurity pioneer in the internet’s early days, and his pre-Twitter resume includes stints at Google, Stripe, and DARPA. Maybe the report’s allegations simply added up to a nothingburger? Not the case either—Mudge’s claims prompted a Congressional testimony, where he painted a picture of a company endlessly plagued by serious security issues and data breaches, exacerbated by an effete executive team that repeatedly denied, misdirected, and downplayed the extent of the problems. Let’s take a look. Mudge joined Twitter’s executive team as the company’s Security Lead in November 2020 and, according to his report, quickly discovered that the company’s privacy practices were terrible. The company could only account for the origin and content of about 20% of its data, which for example enabled teams inside Twitter to misuse private information originally designated for security purposes in marketing campaigns. When users deleted their accounts, “not only had [their] data not been properly deleted, it couldn’t even be accounted for.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 I am looking forward to layoffs 2.0 as he keeps cleaning out the SJWs and incompetents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 OMFG! HAHAHAHAHA! Taylor Lorenz just got a taste of her own medicine and she is freaking out! ROTFLMAO! AND it looks like a perma-ban. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 18, 2022 Author Share Posted December 18, 2022 This sounds like textbook extortion to me: $50,000 to remove the Muskjet data, or else: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 23 hours ago, DKTanker said: Get back to us when a private enterprise, without the auspices of government backing, is allowed to deprive you of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Got it now? So what happens when online media can pick and choose who gets to be the Government by virtue of tweaking their AI and choosing who gets through to voters and who doesnt? Its making the wet dream of Hearst and Vanderbilt finally a reality. Its not even a distant possiblity either, your Republicans are already shitting themselves at the potential for the Chinese to exploit TikTok that way. You honestly believe the Musks and Zuckerbergs will stay dumb to the potential forever dont you? Good luck with that. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/youngkin-executive-order-bans-tiktok-from-state-computers/ar-AA15nhJh Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin banned the use of several Chinese-owned apps, including TikTok and WeChat, on state government devices and wireless networks on Friday, calling them a threat to national security. Youngkin’s executive order covers apps developed by ByteDance and Tencent. Businesses who contract with Virginia must also prohibit their use on state-owned devices or IT infrastructure. “TikTok and WeChat data are a channel to the Chinese Communist Party, and their continued presence represents a threat to national security, the intelligence community, and the personal privacy of every single American,” Youngkin, a Republican, said in a statement. “We are taking this step today to secure state government devices and wireless networks from the threat of infiltration and ensure that we safeguard the data and cybersecurity of state government.” Youngkin joins at least 14 others governors who have taken such an action, amid calls for Congress to also ban the use of the programs on federal government devices. The executive order drew praise from one of Virginia's Democratic U.S. senators, Mark Warner, who chairs the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. “TikTok has the stamp of approval of the Chinese Communist Party and it poses a serious national security threat due to its data collection practices and its ability to reach and manipulate Americans. I hope to see more states take action to keep our government technology out of the CCP’s reach," Warner, a former governor, said in a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: So what happens when online media can pick and choose who gets to be the Government by virtue of tweaking their AI and choosing who gets through to voters and who doesnt? Its making the wet dream of Hearst and Vanderbilt finally a reality. Its not even a distant possiblity either, your Republicans are already shitting themselves at the potential for the Chinese to exploit TikTok that way. You honestly believe the Musks and Zuckerbergs will stay dumb to the potential forever dont you? Good luck with that. We've already had that, or hadn't you been paying attention. But then we realize, it's all good until it's your ox being gored. BTW, not just Republicans, Democrats are not coming to realize the real harm being done by TikTok. I've no illusions about Zuckerberg, I'm confident that he's on the forefront, that's why my FB page is devoid of information. As for Musk, time will tell. Currently I'm more concerned with Bezos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said: So what happens when online media can pick and choose who gets to be the Government by virtue of tweaking their AI and choosing who gets through to voters and who doesnt? Its making the wet dream of Hearst and Vanderbilt finally a reality. Its not even a distant possiblity either, your Republicans are already shitting themselves at the potential for the Chinese to exploit TikTok that way. You honestly believe the Musks and Zuckerberg's will stay dumb to the potential forever dont you? Good luck with that. Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin banned the use of several Chinese-owned apps, including TikTok and WeChat, on state government devices and wireless networks on Friday, calling them a threat to national security. Youngkin joins at least 14 others governors who have taken such an action, amid calls for Congress to also ban the use of the programs on federal government devices. What happens when the media picks and chooses? Didn't they do that in the U.S. in the 2020 and 2022 elections? I was under the impression that Zuckerberger had been down with blocking some content that the Democrats didn't like. As for Musk? Time will tell. The image he is putting out is that he wants free speech with a few limits. Such as banning calls for violence, criminal activity such as child porn........ and rat shit crazy people like a famous musician who was married into a family of people who were famous for nothing. It is funny how some who style themselves "liberal" get bent out of shape over free speech. Didn't Trump try and put limits on tic toc due to security concerns? Edited December 18, 2022 by 17thfabn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, 17thfabn said: What happens when the media picks and chooses? Didn't they do that in the U.S. in the 2020 and 2022 elections? I was under the impression that Zuckerberger had been down with blocking some content that the Democrats didn't like. As for Musk? Time will tell. The image he is putting out is that he wants free speech with a few limits. Such as banning calls for violence, criminal activity such child porn........ and rat shit crazy people like a famous musician who was married into a family of people who were famous for nothing. Didn't Trump try and put limits on tic toc due to security concerns? Well you go and buy a new newspaper, or change the channel I guess. That kind of bias is far more overt than online media, when the only indication you get the AI are playing with you is that you no longer see articles about x politician or Y party. That's far more subtle than CNN telling you Trump is a Russian spy, or Fox telling you Obama is a Kenyan. He talked about it, I'm be aware he did anything other than he DOD introduce their own restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DKTanker said: We've already had that, or hadn't you been paying attention. But then we realize, it's all good until it's your ox being gored. BTW, not just Republicans, Democrats are not coming to realize the real harm being done by TikTok. I've no illusions about Zuckerberg, I'm confident that he's on the forefront, that's why my FB page is devoid of information. As for Musk, time will tell. Currently I'm more concerned with Bezos. What part of 'I don't like the media playing kingmaker for either side' is such a difficult concept to grasp? I've spent 40 years having the British Government being chosen by Rupert Murdoch. You are a fool of you think a younger generation wont have even better tools to fuck with the system. Edited December 18, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Elon is burning the lifeboats on the Titanic. 😄 Edited December 18, 2022 by Der Zeitgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Thanks, I was just going to post that. TikTok is still allowed you notice. Free speech? Hah. You got had, again. Edited December 18, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 4 hours ago, 17thfabn said: I was under the impression that Zuckerberger had been down with blocking some content that the Democrats didn't like. The thing about the big social media platforms is that they will censor/inhibit content which is too left-wing for the Dems. The DNC chooses where on the spectrum they want to position & market the Party, and BigSoc and the Feebies enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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