sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) First brain-damaged man to win a seat at the Senate. How enlightened. Quote Fetterman’s victory caps a remarkable ascent from his time as mayor of small Braddock, a borough in western Pennsylvania, to the lieutenant governor’s office -- which he won after unseating a fellow Democrat in a 2018 primary -- and now, the US Senate. A longtime progressive, he is an outspoken supporter of abolishing the filibuster, raising the minimum wage, legalizing marijuana, criminal justice reform and passing legislation to protect same-sex marriage, among other leading liberal priorities. His success will also provide inspiration to stroke survivors and other disabled Americans, some of whom took heart from his efforts to carry on campaigning even as he exhibited the lingering effects of his May stroke. Fetterman, though he has not released his full medical records, has said he expects to be at or near full strength by the time he takes office early next year. On the normal side of things: Quote COLUMBUS, Ohio — J.D. Vance, the “Hillbilly Elegy” author who was a searing Donald Trump critic before he converted into one of his most loyal allies, has defeated Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan in Ohio’s Senate race, NBC News projects. Some gloating: Quote “It is clear that House Democratic Members and candidates are strongly outperforming expectations across the country,” Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. Voter intimidation! Quote Rachel Maddow actually said Arizonans open carry at the polls to intimidate voters This is not voter suppression. Quote “Nothing Is Working” – Arizona Poll Worker Responds to Maricopa County Tabulator Issues – Issues with Machines are Now Reported in Wickenburg, AZ (VIDEO) (...) It was foreseen the last ever mostly free US election was to be in 2016. After the 2020 successful steal, enough electoral systems of US states would be leveraged to produce someone's desired results. Edited November 9, 2022 by sunday
R E lee Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, sunday said: First brain-damaged man to win a seat at the Senate. How enlightened. Woodrow Wilson ran the country after a severe stroke, so have 7 other President had strokes, they are not uncommon. Nothing to see, move along. Edited November 9, 2022 by R E lee
sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Looks like Martin Armstrong, despite his known shortcomings, did foresee the situation. I hope he is wrong wrt 2024 election: Quote "The cheating in the midterm election next week is going to be so great that it is almost impossible to make a prediction. . . . In a fair midterm election, the Republicans would win the House and the Senate." . . . "It’s going to be tight, and the Republicans have a shot at taking the House. Technically, they should take the House and the Senate. I am just not sure. The corruption is so bad, it’s crazy. Pennsylvania sent out hundreds of thousands of ballots to people who are not documented or even American. I’ve gotten emails from people in Canada, they are getting mail-in ballots. They mailed them to Canada. . . .Where this ends up, who knows? It’s just so corrupt, it is over the top. It doesn’t matter who wins. Nobody is going to accept this thing, and that is the problem." . . . "We may not even have an election in 2024. It is not looking very good, and it’s probably because this election is not going to be accepted. When it is so over-the-top corrupt, what do you do for the next one? The United States will not exist after 2032. After 2028 and 2029, we are going to have to redesign a government from scratch. America is being destroyed. Republics always end in absolute corruption. We just saw the same thing happen in Brazil. They staged a major effort to take Bolsonaro out. . . . This is a worldwide effort. They had to get rid of Trump. The other one who stood in their way is Bolsonaro. Then there is Putin (Russia) and Xi Jinping (China). I think you are going to have historians look back at this 50 years from now, and they will call this period ‘The Climate Change Wars’. . . .They are trying to take down as much oil energy capacity as possible." . . . "Our computer is showing it’s going to be a rocket launch for volatility and civil unrest next year."
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) Rather interesting elections. i just cannot understand some "breathtaking highlights". One that amused me is when media jumped on one Republican that "he is against help for Ukraine"...when only thing guy said "there cannot be a blank check and there should be congressional oversight". Doh...that is just common sense. And apparently abortion rights and such are not that threatened yet. Plus 2 lesbians are about to be elected. So, this is very amusing circus for me. It does have effect on other countries too, thus it is followed and commented so closely by people who cannot cast vote there. To edit: “If you wish to become a philosopher, the first thing to realise is that most people go through life with a whole world of beliefs that have no sort of rational justification, and that one man’s world of beliefs is apt to be incompatible with another man’s, so that they cannot both be right. People’s opinions are mainly designed to make them feel comfortable; truth, for most people is a secondary consideration.” ― Bertrand Russell, The Art of Philosophizing and other Essays (1942) Edited November 9, 2022 by Sardaukar
BansheeOne Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 At least since Trump, possibly since Obama, maybe even GWB, European media seem infected with the American "most important election of our life!!!!!!11!!" hyperbole where even midterms are jazzed up to decide The Fate Of America depending upon which lizards get in. It used to be that midterm results were reported after the fact somewhere in the international section with some assessment of "life gets slightly harder for current administration as usual at this point". Now we get LIVE UPDATES OF CRITICAL RACES!, and I have seriously seen a DW headline "US midterms could endanger global democracy". Niggah, please. 🙄
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, BansheeOne said: At least since Trump, possibly since Obama, maybe even GWB, European media seem infected with the American "most important election of our life!!!!!!11!!" hyperbole where even midterms are jazzed up to decide The Fate Of America depending upon which lizards get in. It used to be that midterm results were reported after the fact somewhere in the international section with some assessment of "life gets slightly harder for current administration as usual at this point". Now we get LIVE UPDATES OF CRITICAL RACES!, and I have seriously seen a DW headline "US midterms could endanger global democracy". Niggah, please. 🙄 Yea, same was reported even our state media YLE with close to same: "US midterms could endanger US democracy". I'd be pretty more concerned if people were not allowed to vote or express their opinions...like in many countries in world.
nitflegal Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 8 hours ago, NickM said: RE: this child mutilation thing==why are there doctors and psychologists pushing this in such a frenzied manner? My guess (backed up by some conversations with people in the field) is a combination of the following; a lot of doctors actually believe this, the industry and the med schools are not just woke, they will crucify you if you don't agree (which has probably led to the first point), and there is a lot of money and incentives to do it. You know how people sh*t on the pharmas because they want perpetual treatments and not cures? Same here. Once a person starts down that road they are a guaranteed patient for expensive (and often out of pocket) medications, office visits, 6 figure surgical procedures (and dirty little secret, they usually have ongoing complications so it's not one expensive round of surgery, its constant expensive visits, surgical interventions, wound treatments (that vac stuff is a cash cow), etc). I've been told by people billing and coding in Boston hospitals that long term financials have transgender transitioning patients to be more of a patient level revenue stream than anything else save certain types of aggressive cancer.
nitflegal Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 I'm not optimistic but I hope the Republicans take their utter fiasco of last night and actually dig into why it happened rather than whistling past the graveyard. They blew it. And on a positive note I don't think Trump comes back from this loss of face on his part so we hopefully clear the way for Desantis. We shall see.
BansheeOne Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Nah, elections were clearly stolen again. No reason to think about the impact of Roe vs. Wade, what kind of nutcases we fielded as some of our candidates, etc. Double down, even more radicalization will lead to success eventually! More seriously, I wouldn't judge it as an utter fiasco for Republicans, except by the standards of the utterly overblown expectations they may have had. They have already made some gains, and may make some more at the end of the day - but failed to exploit the full potential in an election typically favoring the opposition, with the government giving them every opportunity to. Then again, the Democrats certainly didn't manage to capitalize on the opportunities given to them to the extent it looked possible just a couple months ago, either.
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Maybe it was...*gasp*...that most of the voters didn't buy bollocks (sorry about Brit expression) that many politicians were spouting on both sides.
R E lee Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sardaukar said: Maybe it was...*gasp*...that most of the voters didn't buy bollocks (sorry about Brit expression) that many politicians were spouting on both sides. Or with Dems doing so bad on many issues, voters looked at the alternative on offer, sighed and thought it not any answer to the problem/s.
sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, nitflegal said: I'm not optimistic but I hope the Republicans take their utter fiasco of last night and actually dig into why it happened rather than whistling past the graveyard. Doubtful, and perhaps they could not do enough to rectify it. Arizona's and Pennsylvania's electoral systems have proved again to be pure jokes.
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, R E lee said: Or with Dems doing so bad on many issues, voters looked at the alternative on offer, sighed and thought it not any answer to the problem/s. Unfortunate thing often with two-party system.
R E lee Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, sunday said: Doubtful, and perhaps they could not do enough to rectify it. Arizona's and Pennsylvania's electoral systems have proved again to be pure jokes. Fact free opinion is not helpful.
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, R E lee said: Fact free opinion is not helpful. Maybe you should consider that person who thinks US Gov is run by pedophiles and lizards...."just" might have it right, from Spain... Just saying. I think i need to stop ignoring sunday.
sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sardaukar said: Maybe you should consider that person who thinks US Gov is run by pedophiles and lizards...."just" might have it right, from Spain... Just saying. I think i need to stop ignoring sunday. Lizards? When did I state that? Already drunk so early, Mika? Continue ignoring me, please. Edited November 9, 2022 by sunday
R E lee Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sardaukar said: Unfortunate thing often with two-party system. True, whats odder, i recall a Pew survey that c40% of voters think of themselves as independents, ie no strong party affiliation.
R E lee Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sunday said: Lizards? When did I stated that? Already drunk so early, Mika? Maybe wait till he answers, before making up stuff as the answer?. Also if your going to pull people up on how they use English, maybe sort your own misuse of it out?. Edited November 9, 2022 by R E lee
sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 Quote Fox News star Tucker Carlson on Tuesday night ... [claimed] that the use of electronic voting machines “shakes people’s faith in the system” and shows America is “not serious about democracy.” . . . “And what happened today in Maricopa County, where some huge percentage of voting machines… 30 percent, they claim these are Dominion voting machines, but it almost doesn’t matter,” Carlson insisted. “Electronic voting machines didn’t allow people to vote apparently.” . . . “Whatever you think of it, the cause of it, it shakes people’s faith in the system,” Carlson continued. “That’s an actual threat to democracy. The core problem: We’re not serious about democracy if we’re using electronic voting machines. You’re going to have these moments where everybody in the country fears volatility because one side doesn’t believe the result is real.” Claiming that distrust in voting machines runs on “both sides” and is not “just the crazy right,” Carlson said he hoped there would be a “bipartisan” demand to ban electronic voting machines and “require voting IDs.”
Der Zeitgeist Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sardaukar said: I think i need to stop ignoring sunday. Totally worth it. Almost the only reason I still come here.
Sardaukar Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, sunday said: Lizards? When did I state that? Already drunk so early, Mika? Continue ignoring me, please. Internet does not forget, mister.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 47 minutes ago, nitflegal said: My guess (backed up by some conversations with people in the field) is a combination of the following; a lot of doctors actually believe this, the industry and the med schools are not just woke, they will crucify you if you don't agree (which has probably led to the first point), and there is a lot of money and incentives to do it. You know how people sh*t on the pharmas because they want perpetual treatments and not cures? Same here. Once a person starts down that road they are a guaranteed patient for expensive (and often out of pocket) medications, office visits, 6 figure surgical procedures (and dirty little secret, they usually have ongoing complications so it's not one expensive round of surgery, its constant expensive visits, surgical interventions, wound treatments (that vac stuff is a cash cow), etc). I've been told by people billing and coding in Boston hospitals that long term financials have transgender transitioning patients to be more of a patient level revenue stream than anything else save certain types of aggressive cancer. If people are willing to suspend their judgement, there is a really good podcast from BBC that has just covered the role of Transgenderism in American politics. Suffice to say, for the right kind of people with an agenda, it pays dividends. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001dxt0 48 minutes ago, nitflegal said: I'm not optimistic but I hope the Republicans take their utter fiasco of last night and actually dig into why it happened rather than whistling past the graveyard. They blew it. And on a positive note I don't think Trump comes back from this loss of face on his part so we hopefully clear the way for Desantis. We shall see. In In actual fact, I was watching CNN this morning, and they said that 'This Republican result makes a Trump V Biden rematch look much more likely'. So who knows. Its certainly not the massive triumph everyone was talking up, but it doesnt look like a disaster. its just not the Red Wave everyone was overhyping. If they had overhyped less, perhaps turnout would have been more, and it wouldnt be quite so difficult to pretend its not the result they were expecting.
Stuart Galbraith Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sardaukar said: Internet does not forget, mister. Mock not he that quote the Son of Godhead, unbeliever! Minions, to the wicker man with him!
sunday Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sardaukar said: Internet does not forget, mister. Ok, show us, else STFU.
Josh Posted November 9, 2022 Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, BansheeOne said: At least since Trump, possibly since Obama, maybe even GWB, European media seem infected with the American "most important election of our life!!!!!!11!!" hyperbole where even midterms are jazzed up to decide The Fate Of America depending upon which lizards get in. It used to be that midterm results were reported after the fact somewhere in the international section with some assessment of "life gets slightly harder for current administration as usual at this point". Now we get LIVE UPDATES OF CRITICAL RACES!, and I have seriously seen a DW headline "US midterms could endanger global democracy". Niggah, please. 🙄 In this case, the local elections at the state level where election deniers were running for office was the big deal about election meddling in 2024. The governor candidates in Pennsylvania and Arizona for instance explicitly believe 2020 was stolen and vocally have advocated for overturning any non GOP result, including Doug Mastriano declaring that "no democrat will win again" if he was elected. Since the PA gov appoints the state official who runs the election and the state legislature is GOP, that is a thing within his power to do, pending all the court cases that would probably precipitate. But the actual election results that would be under threat in that case are the ones in 2024, not 2022.
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