BansheeOne Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 Quote Author Salman Rushdie stabbed on stage in rural New York 1m ago Author Salman Rushdie, who has lived under death threats due to his writing, has been stabbed on stage during a literary event. He suffered a wound to the neck and was rushed to hospital. Author Salman Rushdie was stabbed in rural New York on Friday while on stage at a literary event. A man rushed the stage as Rushdie was about to deliver a lecture and attacked him, witnesses said. New York state police said Rushdie "suffered an apparent stab wound to the neck." He was then rushed to hospital with a helicopter in an unknown condition. The alleged attacker was immediately arrested. Images shared by attendees appeared to show Rushdie being treated on stage after the attack in western New York state. Rushdie, 75, has spent years living under a death threat from Iran over his novel The Satanic Verses. In 1989, Iranian Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued an edict calling for Rushdie's death over allegations of blasphemy. Iran's government has since distanced itself from this edict, but in 2012, a semi-official Iranian religious foundation offered a $3.3 million (€3.2 million) reward for anyone who kills Rushdie. The latest incident took place at the Chautauqua Institution, about 55 miles (88 kilometers) southwest of Buffalo in rural New York. Rushdie was due to deliver a lecture on how the United States offers asylum for artists in exile. https://m.dw.com/en/author-salman-rushdie-stabbed-on-stage-in-rural-new-york/a-62793552
Tim the Tank Nut Posted August 12, 2022 Author Posted August 12, 2022 thank you for posting a link I assume law enforcement is diligently seeking a motive for the inexplicable attack
NickM Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Mikel2 said: We'll never know. It appears NY State AG Leticia James has been a bit busy of late, chasing the great orange God/Emperor. I don't even think she has time to look into that old Dominican guy who shanked his attacker.
DougRichards Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Ssnake said: I hope he'll make it, and recover well. He is not in a good condition, will probably lose an eye, was stabbed in liver, neck and other places. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-13/salman-rushdie-attacked-in-new-york/101330404 "The news is not good," Andrew Wylie, his book agent, wrote in an email. "Salman will likely lose one eye; the nerves in his arm were severed; and his liver was stabbed and damaged."
BansheeOne Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 Come on guys, you can't worry about the victim in a thread about an assassination attempt. Get with the program and mutter darkly about American liberal politics.
rmgill Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 That law enforcement fails to prosecute such crimes as a matter of course and that we show concern for that demonstrates a concern for extant victims AND future victims.
BansheeOne Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, rmgill said: That law enforcement fails to prosecute such crimes as a matter of course They do? Jumping to the rather likely, though so far unsubstantiated conclusion that the perpetrator was motivated by islamism rather than being a general nutcase seeking his 15 minutes of fame, how many of the ca. 530 suspects in such cases I can find in the US since 9/11 have gone unprosecuted?
Stuart Galbraith Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 I'm amazed he is still alive after being knifed 7 times. He must really enjoy pissing off Iranian clerics. Long may he do so.
rmgill Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 9 hours ago, BansheeOne said: They do? Jumping to the rather likely, though so far unsubstantiated conclusion that the perpetrator was motivated by islamism rather than being a general nutcase seeking his 15 minutes of fame, how many of the ca. 530 suspects in such cases I can find in the US since 9/11 have gone unprosecuted? I point to the NewYork State RELEASE of the man who tried to stab the GOP Gubernatorial Candidate for New York. We can also discuss the specifics of just about any New York State crime that's happened lately where criminals are released for violent offenses without any need for cash bail.
Stuart Galbraith Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 The perpetrator is apparently Lebanese. CNN asked Hezbollah if they knew anything about it, and they rapidly disavowed having anything to do with it. Not what you usually expect from terrorist groups. What seems to have happened is boringly familiar in the modern age. Man has an online presence on Iranian websites, and noted in his social media making favourable comments about the Iranian republican guards. So its either a self radicalization, or he always felt that way and just self reinforced. None of this lets the Iranians off the hook for allowing the fatwah to continue, much less condemn the attack. But its not as simple as their sending a joe to go and do it for them, its just the usual rabblerousing thing that seems to popular these days.
BansheeOne Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 11 hours ago, rmgill said: I point to the NewYork State RELEASE of the man who tried to stab the GOP Gubernatorial Candidate for New York. We can also discuss the specifics of just about any New York State crime that's happened lately where criminals are released for violent offenses without any need for cash bail. Well, this guy doesn't look to be released anytime soon, seeing that he's being held without bond on charges of attempted murder. And I still can't find any stabbers that weren't prosecuted, either likely islamists with knifes or alcoholics with plastic daggers. Quote August 14, 2022 8:10 AM GMT+2 Last Updated 32 min ago Salman Rushdie still hospitalized as attack suspect pleads not guilty By Kanishka Singh and Nathan Layne Aug 13 (Reuters) - Acclaimed author Salman Rushdie remained hospitalized on Saturday with serious injuries a day after he was repeatedly stabbed at a public appearance in New York state, while police sought to determine the motive behind an attack that drew international condemnation. The accused attacker, 24-year-old Hadi Matar of Fairview, New Jersey, pleaded not guilty to charges of attempted murder and assault at a court appearance on Saturday, his court-appointed lawyer, Nathaniel Barone, told Reuters. Rushdie, 75, was set to deliver a lecture on artistic freedom at Chautauqua Institution in western New York when police say Matar rushed the stage and stabbed the Indian-born writer, who has lived with a bounty on his head since his 1988 novel "The Satanic Verses" prompted Iran to urge Muslims to kill him. Following hours of surgery, Rushdie was on a ventilator and unable to speak as of Friday evening, according to his agent, Andrew Wylie. The novelist was likely to lose an eye and had nerve damage in his arm and wounds to his liver, Wylie said in an email. Wylie did not respond to messages requesting updates on Rushdie's condition on Saturday, though the New York Times reported that Rushdie had started to talk, citing Wylie. [...] An initial law enforcement review of Matar's social media accounts showed he was sympathetic to Shi'ite extremism and Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), although no definitive links had been found, according to NBC New York. The IRGC is a powerful faction that controls a business empire as well as elite armed and intelligence forces that Washington accuses of carrying out a global extremist campaign. Asked to comment on the case, Matar's lawyer Barone said, "We're kind of in the early stages and, quite frankly, in cases like this, I think the important thing to remember is people need to keep an open mind. They need to look at everything. They can't just assume something happened for why they think something happened." A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Friday, he said. Matar was born in California and recently moved to New Jersey, the NBC New York report said, adding that he had a fake driver's license on him. He was arrested at the scene by a state trooper after being wrestled to the ground by audience members. Witnesses said he did not speak as he attacked the author. Rushdie was stabbed 10 times, prosecutors said during Matar's arraignment, according to the Times. The assault was premeditated; prosecutors said in court that Matar traveled by bus to Chautauqua Institution, an educational retreat about 12 miles (19 km) from the shores of Lake Erie, and bought a pass that admitted him to Rushdie's talk, the Times reported. Attendees said there were no obvious security checks. [...] Ali Tehfe, mayor of Yaroun in southern Lebanon, said Matar was the son of a man from the town. The suspect's parents emigrated to the United States and he was born and raised there, the mayor added. Asked whether Matar or his parents were affiliated with or supported the Iran-backed Hezbollah armed group in Lebanon, Tehfe said he had "no information at all" on their political views. A Hezbollah official told Reuters on Saturday that the group had no additional information on the attack on Rushdie. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/salman-rushdie-attack-suspect-charged-with-attempted-murder-prosecutor-2022-08-13/ Quote Date 13.08.2022 Iran's hard-line press hail attack on author Salman Rushdie There was praise from Iran's strongly conservative press for the attack on world-renowned author Salman Rushdie, which has left him on a ventilator. Iran-backed armed group Hezbollah has denied any knowledge. Iran's religious-leaning newspapers on Saturday heaped praise on the attacker who seriously wounded author Salman Rushdie a day earlier. The 75-year-old writer, who was the subject of a 1989 Iranian death fatwa for perceived blasphemy in his novel "The Satanic Verses," was badly wounded in an attack on Friday. What's the response from Iran's hardliners? While there has been no official reaction from Iran to the stabbing, the hard-line Kayhan newspaper praised the alleged assailant, a 24-year-old man from Fairview, New Jersey. The man, who was charged Saturday with attempted murder, is being held without bond, prosecutors in Chautauqua County, New York said. The paper, whose editor-in-chief is appointed by Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, wrote that the suspect deserved "a thousand bravos." Khamenei has himself refused to revoke the fatwa, or edict, against Rushdie and has been quoted as saying that the "arrow" shot by his predecessor who issued it "will one day hit the target." The Asr Iran news site on Saturday carried that quote, while the Khorasan daily carried the headline: "Satan on the way to hell." [...] https://www.dw.com/en/irans-hard-line-press-hail-attack-on-author-salman-rushdie/a-62799441
rmgill Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 U.S. Rep. Lee Zeldin was attacked on Thursday night by a man wielding a sharp object at a campaign event near Rochester, New York, officials said. Zeldin, the Republican candidate for New York governor, was uninjured, and no other injuries were reported. In video of the attack, a man can be seen onstage with Zeldin, grabbing his arm before they fall to the ground. "You're done," the man can be heard repeating in the assault, which unfolded at around 8 p.m. at the Veterans of Foreign Wars post in Perinton. The Monroe County Sheriff’s Office identified the suspect as David Jakubonis, 43. . . . Jakubonis, of Fairport, is charged with attempted assault in the second degree, a felony, and was arraigned at Perinton Town Court and released on his own recognizance, the sheriff’s office said in a statement. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-rep-lee-zeldin-attacked-stage-new-york-campaign-event-witnesses-say-rcna39493
rmgill Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_New_York_bail_reform 2019 New York bail reform From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search New York State attempted bail reform, in an act that stood from January to June 2020. As part of the New York State Fiscal Year (SFY) Budget for 2019–2020, passed on April 1, 2019,[1][2]cash bail was eliminated for most misdemeanor and non-violent felony charges,[3] "including stalking, assault without serious injury, burglary, many drug offenses, and even some kinds of arson and robbery."[4] The law went into effect on January 1, 2020. It was narrowed after growing discontent. [5] According to The New York Times, "While New Jersey, California, Illinois and other states have limited the use of bail, New York is one of the few states to abolish bail for many crimes without also giving state judges the discretion to consider whether a person poses a threat to public safety in deciding whether to hold them."[4] There was a surge of opposition from lawmakers, district attorneys, and police chiefs as the date of implementation of the bail reform law neared.[6] New York state judges reportedly started releasing criminal suspects in November 2019 due to the impending law implementation. It was estimated that 25,000 people would be released by the time the law took effect.[7] In the first full year after implementation of the law, there were approximately 100,000 cases where adults were released instead of being held in custody or assigned bail. In one-fifth of those cases a released individual sustained a new arrest while the initial case was pending. Most of the new arrests were for misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies - individuals who were arrested again for violent felony charges accounted for two percent of that 100,000 case amount. About less than one-half a percent of those released were arrested again for violent felony charges with a firearm.[8][9]
NickM Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, rmgill said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_New_York_bail_reform 2019 New York bail reform From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search New York State attempted bail reform, in an act that stood from January to June 2020. As part of the New York State Fiscal Year (SFY) Budget for 2019–2020, passed on April 1, 2019,[1][2]cash bail was eliminated for most misdemeanor and non-violent felony charges,[3] "including stalking, assault without serious injury, burglary, many drug offenses, and even some kinds of arson and robbery."[4] The law went into effect on January 1, 2020. It was narrowed after growing discontent. [5] According to The New York Times, "While New Jersey, California, Illinois and other states have limited the use of bail, New York is one of the few states to abolish bail for many crimes without also giving state judges the discretion to consider whether a person poses a threat to public safety in deciding whether to hold them."[4] There was a surge of opposition from lawmakers, district attorneys, and police chiefs as the date of implementation of the bail reform law neared.[6] New York state judges reportedly started releasing criminal suspects in November 2019 due to the impending law implementation. It was estimated that 25,000 people would be released by the time the law took effect.[7] In the first full year after implementation of the law, there were approximately 100,000 cases where adults were released instead of being held in custody or assigned bail. In one-fifth of those cases a released individual sustained a new arrest while the initial case was pending. Most of the new arrests were for misdemeanors and nonviolent felonies - individuals who were arrested again for violent felony charges accounted for two percent of that 100,000 case amount. About less than one-half a percent of those released were arrested again for violent felony charges with a firearm.[8][9] I wonder how many people arrested for violent/weapons related crimes were released without bail by the new law. Kinda slick how that is glossed over.
rmgill Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 A basic fact of behavior is that if you commit a crime and you are seemingly released quickly, there's very little disincentive to committing further crimes. As the crimes are progressively worse, and the system does nothing to respond to the increased severity of offenses, it's not long before someone who was boosting stereos escalates to robbery and then murder when things go badly. We've seen this with the juvenile population where criminal children are released to their mothers and then go on to commit more severe crimes. Then someone is very surprised when they are either A. Shot by a victim/cop or B. Murder someone rather gratuitously and everyone notes how the child was 'just misunderstood'. Case in point... Children of ages 13 and 14 beat an elderly man to death with a traffic cone. (how's that gun violence hobby horse Milo?) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11017473/Teens-charged-murder-adults-beating-elderly-man-death-traffic-cone.html
MiloMorai Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 4 hours ago, rmgill said: Children of ages 13 and 14 beat an elderly man to death with a traffic cone. (how's that gun violence hobby horse Milo?) So one death due to a traffic cone compared to how many deaths by gun.
rmgill Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) One. So you ban guns. The homicides will go away...right? https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/ Edited August 14, 2022 by rmgill
MiloMorai Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 Would certainly decrease by a significant number. 12,892 fire arm deaths compared to 1,739 edge weapon deaths.
Colin Posted August 14, 2022 Posted August 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, MiloMorai said: Would certainly decrease by a significant number. 12,892 fire arm deaths compared to 1,739 edge weapon deaths. 50% of the homicides are in 2% of the counties. The real issues leading to high homicides are well known, but no one cares enough to fix them, far easier to blame guns and the NRA, then the politicians can throw up their hands and say "Well I tried". Now their lack of action on real issues is absolved.
rmgill Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 4 hours ago, MiloMorai said: Would certainly decrease by a significant number. 12,892 fire arm deaths compared to 1,739 edge weapon deaths. You REALLY think that someone unable to get a firearm will NOT resort to other methods for homicide? Test that with the Mexican Homicide stats. Their KNIFE homicides exceed our total firearms homicides.
MiloMorai Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, rmgill said: You REALLY think that someone unable to get a firearm will NOT resort to other methods for homicide? Test that with the Mexican Homicide stats. Their KNIFE homicides exceed our total firearms homicides. It is hard to our run a bullet.
rmgill Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 But Milo. Guns are heavily restricted in Mexico. How can they have a large number of gun homicides? Note.. In Mexico, annual homicides by any means total 2020: 36,579 In Mexico, annual firearm homicides total 2020: 25,635 https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/mexico
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