85mm ZIS-S-53 vs Panther's Upper Glaces Armour

[Laurelix]

I have always wondered if the 85mm BR-365K AP(HE) round was capable of defeating the Upper Glaces armour of the Panther, specifically the Panther A model using RHA and the quality of steel is good.
Have the Russians ever conducted such tests? I know the Allies tested different array of anti tanks guns against the Panther.

I have calculated my own estimations but thats what it is at best due to all the different variables... For example sources dont seem to want to agree wether upper plate thickness was 80mm or 85mm.

[bojan]

No it is not.

Edited July 24, 2022 by bojan

[Laurelix]

1 hour ago, bojan said:

No it is not.

Is there any evidence of this?

[bojan]

Yes, Soviet tests. IIRC Turret could be penetrated up the 1000+m, lower hull up the 500m and glacis could not be penetrated.

[Peasant]

Text written in chalk says "85 AP", "D-700m" and "D-1000m". No info on the distances from which the lower glacis was shot.

Edited July 28, 2022 by Peasant

[Peasant]

On 7/25/2022 at 12:20 AM, bojan said:

Yes, Soviet tests. IIRC Turret could be penetrated up the 1000+m, lower hull up the 500m and glacis could not be penetrated.

It depends. In this test it was "penetrated" (if you consider this one) from 1000m. And it was a thick-er than average, a 65mm thick LFP.

Quote

Shot No. 9
Shell type: AP.
-- same --
Armour thickness( in mm): 65
Damage to the target: "Breach 30x50mm. A piece of armour, 120x180mm thrown from the back of the plate"

Source: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=2268389#p2268389

 

 

[P Lakowski]

On 7/28/2022 at 11:06 AM, Peasant said:

Text written in chalk says "85 AP", "D-700m" and "D-1000m". No info on the distances from which the lower glacis was shot.

These hits are all pretty much too close to each other to be classified as valid  penetration.