Another Repub nut job

[MiloMorai]

Boebert says she is ‘tired’ of separation between church and state: ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’ (msn.com)

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) says she is “tired” of the longstanding separation between church and state in the U.S., adding that she believes “the church is supposed to direct the government.”

© Provided by The HillBoebert says she is ‘tired’ of separation between church and state: ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’

In a Sunday speech at the Cornerstone Christian Center in Basalt, Colo., ahead of her primary election on Tuesday, Boebert argued that “the government is not supposed to direct the church,” falsely claiming that dividing religion from the system of government was not what the Founding Fathers intended.

 

 

 

“I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk — that’s not in the constitution. It was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like they say it does,” Boebert said, earning a round of applause from the audience.

Boebert faces a GOP primary challenge from state Sen. Don Coram in Colorado’s 3rd District but has far outraised her opponent in the campaign and is expected to triumph on Tuesday, according to the election watcher FiveThirtyEight.

The concept of a separation between church and state is derived from the establishment clause in the Bill of Rights, which says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”

[bojan]

FFS, another whine thread about some random politician that does not even decide anything in your country?

[Stargrunt6]

24 minutes ago, bojan said:

FFS, another whine thread about some random politician that does not even decide anything in your country?

Free Milo Zone.

I guess fb and Twitter aren't good enough.

 

[MiloMorai]

2 hours ago, bojan said:

FFS, another whine thread about some random politician that does not even decide anything in your country?

Yup just someone else trying to destroy the USofA.

As the USofA goes, so does my country.

[bojan]

8 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

Yup just someone else trying to destroy the USofA.

Their funeral, their choice of attire. Not up the you or me to decide anything there, so why bother?

[glenn239]

13 hours ago, bojan said:

FFS, another whine thread about some random politician that does not even decide anything in your country?

In Canada, about 30% of the population is obsessed (hates) the American Right.  The media feed gets them hooked with constant stories.  I can tell when my one buddy is binging because sometimes he'll send me 3 or 4 Trump stories in one day, with emails about how much of a dirtbag Trump is.  I tell him he's hooked and he needs to get clean....

[rmgill]

Based on the photo he chose, I think Milo has a fetish and a crush on the above congresswoman. 

[MiloMorai]

6 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Based on the photo he chose, I think Milo has a fetish and a crush on the above congresswoman. 

Be sure I included the photo in the article by Brad Dress.

[MiloMorai]

Not one word on her comment ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’ when church and state are suppose to be separate.

[Wobbly Head]

53 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

Not one word on her comment ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’ when church and state are suppose to be separate.

There has always been a connection between church and state. Laws and moral codes come from religion doctrine. The seperation of church and state is to protect other religions. It prevents one church from being able to influence laws against another church or religion and pass unjust laws like anti semetic laws. It levels the playing field so all religions can have equal representation and people can practice their religion freely.

It does not prevent politicians from practicing their religion or beliefs.

 

Edited June 29, 2022 by Wobbly Head

[17thfabn]

For MiloMorai, enjoy! The lady likes her guns. It was hard to find a picture of her in shorts with out one.

 

 

Edited June 29, 2022 by 17thfabn

[Rick]

1 hour ago, Wobbly Head said:

There has always been a connection between church and state. Laws and moral codes come from religion doctrine. The seperation of church and state is to protect other religions. It prevents one church from being able to influence laws against another church or religion and pass unjust laws like anti semetic laws. It levels the playing field so all religions can have equal representation and people can practice their religion freely.

It does not prevent politicians from practicing their religion or beliefs.

 

Well said. I would add it prevents the federal government from establishing a national religion. Government should not interfere with the ability of the citizen to practice their faith. The recent Supreme Court ruling supports this unalienable right.  

[seahawk]

The bible and the US constitution can not be separated. The constitution takes the moral guidance the holy Bible provides and casts this into a document that describes how a government should be run, so that it does not work against the will of God.  There is absolutely no reason why the US government should provide protection for false religions or worshippers of the Devil. (Atheists)

[sunday]

Rick, please do not feed it.

[rmgill]

5 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

Not one word on her comment ‘The church is supposed to direct the government’ when church and state are suppose to be separate.

At this point, speaking as an atheist, I'll take a bit more input from the church and a lot less input from communist and socialists. 

[MiloMorai]

3 hours ago, rmgill said:

At this point, speaking as an atheist, I'll take a bit more input from the church and a lot less input from communist and socialists. 

You do understand that Jesus was a commie/socialist.

[MiloMorai]

19 hours ago, sunday said:

Rick, please do not feed it.

Kinzinger slams fellow Republican Boebert and warns of ‘Christian Taliban’ (msn.com)

Is Kinzinger also a troll?

 

[MiloMorai]

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Edited June 30, 2022 by MiloMorai

[seahawk]

21 hours ago, sunday said:

Rick, please do not feed it.

I know you think it is trolling, but am I wrong? Did the fathers of the US constitutions really consider the religious freedom of Muslims, Buddhists or the native Americans? Imho they did not, what they did consider was the experience from Europe, where the rise of protestant sects of Christianity saw some kings declare themselves as clerical leaders as well and used the church for their own purposes. Which led to a long period of pointless wars with Christians killing other Christians and general decay of morals and society. 

[MiloMorai]

Kinzinger Slams Boebert for Criticizing Separation of Church and State (businessinsider.com)

Adam Kinzinger slammed Lauren Boebert for her comments on the division between church and state.

Boebert said the church should "direct the government" and decried the institutions' separation.

In response, Kinzinger warned that there was no difference between her view and that of the Taliban.

[Burncycle360]

The rise of demagogues on the right is not unexpected.  It's reactionary pushback that occurs when nearly all major institutions are captured by the left and there are perverse incentives to promote a resurgence of the radical right as a boogeyman to downplay the dangers of the policy rip currents created when myopic woke demands meets politicians desperately pandering to a distorted perception of what they think popular sentiment is to get elected 

 

The irony is that once you look the other way as your constituents call half the population far right Nazis simply because they voted for the other person, it will result in reactionary pushback on the extreme end that, at least to a small degree, manifests that boogeyman into reality but actually. Never one to miss an opportunity, the captured institutions now use these examples as proof that they were right, reinforcing the premise.

 

With the left doing maoist type struggle sessions to average people as they're trying to eat dinner "c'mon, just raise your fist!", the center, majority, more libertarian types sees the far right as less of an immediate threat than the far left, and they aren't movement starters so it's easy to go along with demagogues on the right who are actually in the arena trying to stop the leftist nonsense even if they don't agree with them past a certain point.

 

By the calculus of the moderates, they can worry about the far right later, hopefully before the pendulum of power swings too far back that direction.

 

The catch is trying to judge when to shut up and let the right fight for them, and when to push back against the right going too far, because if centrists wait too long momentum and inertia can be a real bitch. It's a dangerous game to play, as the Democrats are finding out now that Trump is out of office and the woke they wielded as a tool against him turns their gaze inwards...

 

 

 

Edited June 30, 2022 by Burncycle360